[Xenomai] Debian packages for Xenomai 3.x

[Xenomai] Debian packages for Xenomai 3.x

[Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda]

Hi,


if someone is interested I have been working a bit with the debian directory in
xenomai3.

I have changed the approach to the libraries. I think that now it has not sense
to have a libxenomai1 so I have changed it to xenomai3-libs.

The source, and the patches applied are here:

https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/xenomai.git/

In case there's some interest, I can try to push it again to the official Debian
repositories.


Best regards,

Leopold


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Re: [Xenomai] Debian packages for Xenomai 3.x

[Henning Schild]

Am Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:27:22 +0100
schrieb Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda <leo@alaxarxa.net>:

> Hi,
> 
> 
> if someone is interested I have been working a bit with the debian
> directory in xenomai3.
> 
> I have changed the approach to the libraries. I think that now it has
> not sense to have a libxenomai1 so I have changed it to xenomai3-libs.
> 
> The source, and the patches applied are here:
> 
> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/xenomai.git/
> 
> In case there's some interest, I can try to push it again to the
> official Debian repositories.

Publishing them to Debian would be the ideal case. But how about you
send those patches to this list? After all we have the debian-subdir
and people are using it!
I am using it and i was wondering about the names, but never had a big
enough issue to actually review what is going on in there.
So please prepare a patchq and send it here.

Henning

> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Leopold
> 
> 

Re: [Xenomai] Debian packages for Xenomai 3.x

[Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda]

Hi,

On 01/12/17 16:13, Henning Schild wrote:
> Am Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:27:22 +0100
> schrieb Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda <leo@alaxarxa.net>:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> if someone is interested I have been working a bit with the debian
>> directory in xenomai3.
>>
>> I have changed the approach to the libraries. I think that now it has
>> not sense to have a libxenomai1 so I have changed it to xenomai3-libs.
>>
>> The source, and the patches applied are here:
>>
>> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/xenomai.git/
>>
>> In case there's some interest, I can try to push it again to the
>> official Debian repositories.
> 
> Publishing them to Debian would be the ideal case. 

Ok, so first go for it ;-)


But how about you
> send those patches to this list? After all we have the debian-subdir
> and people are using it!

Who? I think that current debian directory doesn't work for Xenomai 3. Did you try?

I'm from the opinion that the debian directory, to generate debian packages
doesn't belongs to upstream. But, I'm open to send any patch. Just I would like
to know if there are some critical mass.

> I am using it and i was wondering about the names, but never had a big
> enough issue to actually review what is going on in there.
> So please prepare a patchq and send it here.

Are you using it with Xenomai3?

Leopold



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Re: [Xenomai] Debian packages for Xenomai 3.x

[Henning Schild]

Am Mon, 4 Dec 2017 11:34:16 +0100
schrieb Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda <leo@alaxarxa.net>:

> Hi,
> 
> On 01/12/17 16:13, Henning Schild wrote:
> > Am Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:27:22 +0100
> > schrieb Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda <leo@alaxarxa.net>:
> >   
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >> if someone is interested I have been working a bit with the debian
> >> directory in xenomai3.
> >>
> >> I have changed the approach to the libraries. I think that now it
> >> has not sense to have a libxenomai1 so I have changed it to
> >> xenomai3-libs.
> >>
> >> The source, and the patches applied are here:
> >>
> >> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/xenomai.git/
> >>
> >> In case there's some interest, I can try to push it again to the
> >> official Debian repositories.  
> > 
> > Publishing them to Debian would be the ideal case.   
> 
> Ok, so first go for it ;-)

Well good luck ;). Please make sure to add this list to CC. Even if you
fail the feedback might be valueable to improve what we have in tree.
 
> But how about you
> > send those patches to this list? After all we have the debian-subdir
> > and people are using it!  
> 
> Who? I think that current debian directory doesn't work for Xenomai
> 3. Did you try?

Yes i am using it. They might not be ideal but i also did not have any
problems with the packages.

> I'm from the opinion that the debian directory, to generate debian
> packages doesn't belongs to upstream. But, I'm open to send any
> patch. Just I would like to know if there are some critical mass.

We had that discussion before. I think there are quite a few people
that install xenomai with debian-packages. And as long as upstream
(Debian) does not maintain that folder, it makes some sense to keep it
in the sources. Otherwise we would need another repo just for that, and
establish a lock-step mechanism like submodules.
If we do not get upstream Debian to take care of them, i would suggest
to simplify the whole thing. i.e. maybe just throw all in one package.

> > I am using it and i was wondering about the names, but never had a
> > big enough issue to actually review what is going on in there.
> > So please prepare a patchq and send it here.  
> 
> Are you using it with Xenomai3?

Yes both on Ubuntu 16.04 as well as Debian9.

Henning

> 
> Leopold
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Xenomai] Debian packages for Xenomai 3.x

[Henning Schild]

Am Mon, 4 Dec 2017 12:53:58 +0100
schrieb "[ext] Henning Schild" <henning.schild@siemens.com>:

> Am Mon, 4 Dec 2017 11:34:16 +0100
> schrieb Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda <leo@alaxarxa.net>:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 01/12/17 16:13, Henning Schild wrote:  
> > > Am Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:27:22 +0100
> > > schrieb Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda <leo@alaxarxa.net>:
> > >     
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> if someone is interested I have been working a bit with the
> > >> debian directory in xenomai3.
> > >>
> > >> I have changed the approach to the libraries. I think that now it
> > >> has not sense to have a libxenomai1 so I have changed it to
> > >> xenomai3-libs.
> > >>
> > >> The source, and the patches applied are here:
> > >>
> > >> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/xenomai.git/
> > >>
> > >> In case there's some interest, I can try to push it again to the
> > >> official Debian repositories.    
> > > 
> > > Publishing them to Debian would be the ideal case.     
> > 
> > Ok, so first go for it ;-)  
> 
> Well good luck ;). Please make sure to add this list to CC. Even if
> you fail the feedback might be valueable to improve what we have in
> tree. 
> > But how about you  
> > > send those patches to this list? After all we have the
> > > debian-subdir and people are using it!    
> > 
> > Who? I think that current debian directory doesn't work for Xenomai
> > 3. Did you try?  
> 
> Yes i am using it. They might not be ideal but i also did not have any
> problems with the packages.
> 
> > I'm from the opinion that the debian directory, to generate debian
> > packages doesn't belongs to upstream. But, I'm open to send any
> > patch. Just I would like to know if there are some critical mass.  
> 
> We had that discussion before. I think there are quite a few people
> that install xenomai with debian-packages. And as long as upstream
> (Debian) does not maintain that folder, it makes some sense to keep it
> in the sources. Otherwise we would need another repo just for that,
> and establish a lock-step mechanism like submodules.
> If we do not get upstream Debian to take care of them, i would suggest
> to simplify the whole thing. i.e. maybe just throw all in one package.
> 
> > > I am using it and i was wondering about the names, but never had a
> > > big enough issue to actually review what is going on in there.
> > > So please prepare a patchq and send it here.    
> > 
> > Are you using it with Xenomai3?  
> 
> Yes both on Ubuntu 16.04 as well as Debian9.

Sorry you are right. My scripts actually have one line that does make a
difference. And that line needs to go into debin/rules

"[ ! -x configure ] && dh_autoreconf"

Meaning, if you call autoreconf before dpkg-build... the debian-folder
will do its job.

I might send a patch, but if you are going to rework the folder that
might not make any sense.

Henning

> Henning
> 
> > 
> > Leopold
> > 
> > 
> >   
> 
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Re: Debian packages for Xenomai 3.x

[Jan Kiszka]

On 30.11.17 12:27, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> if someone is interested I have been working a bit with the debian directory in
> xenomai3.
> 
> I have changed the approach to the libraries. I think that now it has not sense
> to have a libxenomai1 so I have changed it to xenomai3-libs.
> 
> The source, and the patches applied are here:
> 
> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/xenomai.git/
> 
> In case there's some interest, I can try to push it again to the official Debian
> repositories.
> 

Picking up this topic again:

I'm also in favor of reanimating the upstream Debian package, provided it adds
value to users. In the past, a downside was the unhandy kernel build process,
but maybe users were still happy. OTH, we may have a chance to provide binaries
at least for the standard target x86-64.

I'm currently preparing Debian-based demo and test images, generated
automatically via some "magic" (Isar image builder). For that, we will need
clean debian control files also in the Xenomai repo. That raises the question
how to keep both debian folders best in sync - if both should be used. Suggestions?

Jan

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Re: Debian packages for Xenomai 3.x

[Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda]

El 6/11/18 a les 19:04, Jan Kiszka ha escrit:
> On 30.11.17 12:27, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> if someone is interested I have been working a bit with the debian directory in
>> xenomai3.
>>
>> I have changed the approach to the libraries. I think that now it has not sense
>> to have a libxenomai1 so I have changed it to xenomai3-libs.
>>
>> The source, and the patches applied are here:
>>
>> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/xenomai.git/
>>
>> In case there's some interest, I can try to push it again to the official Debian
>> repositories.
>>
> 
> Picking up this topic again:
> 
> I'm also in favor of reanimating the upstream Debian package, provided it adds
> value to users. In the past, a downside was the unhandy kernel build process,
> but maybe users were still happy. OTH, we may have a chance to provide binaries
> at least for the standard target x86-64.
> 
> I'm currently preparing Debian-based demo and test images, generated
> automatically via some "magic" (Isar image builder). For that, we will need
> clean debian control files also in the Xenomai repo. That raises the question
> how to keep both debian folders best in sync - if both should be used. Suggestions?

Debian repos contain several branches and one of them is upstream that doesn't
contain any reference to Debian.

So, maybe you could create a branch, with a snapshot of the development where
you work with the debian directory. Something similar as Debian does. Then, you
could create another one with the Debian official or simply we could drop the
Debian official and change for this one.

In any case, I agree that this should be reanimating. I proposed some renaming
of the packages but they didn't have too much interest, but I'm quite interested
to have it active.

Best regards,

Leopold


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