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From: Sai Praneeth Prakhya <sai.praneeth.prakhya@intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	joeyli <jlee@suse.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	ricardo.neri@intel.com, Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	"Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86/efi: Use efi_switch_mm() rather than manually twiddling with cr3
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:23:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1502843039.9150.19.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUnT0YL_F3mXyJzi=NE5jvFUUQbwjdK5224zDKkTts-UQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 14:46 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Sai Praneeth Prakhya
> <sai.praneeth.prakhya@intel.com> wrote:
> > +/*
> > + * Makes the calling kernel thread switch to/from efi_mm context
> > + * Can be used from SetVirtualAddressMap() or during efi runtime calls
> > + * (Note: This routine is heavily inspired from use_mm)
> > + */
> > +void efi_switch_mm(struct mm_struct *mm)
> > +{
> > +       struct task_struct *tsk = current;
> > +
> > +       task_lock(tsk);
> > +       efi_scratch.prev_mm = tsk->active_mm;
> > +       if (efi_scratch.prev_mm != mm) {
> > +               mmgrab(mm);
> > +               tsk->active_mm = mm;
> > +       }
> > +       switch_mm(efi_scratch.prev_mm, mm, NULL);
> > +       task_unlock(tsk);
> > +
> > +       if (efi_scratch.prev_mm != mm)
> > +               mmdrop(efi_scratch.prev_mm);
> 

Thanks for the quick review Andy,

> I'm confused.  You're mmdropping an mm that you are still keeping a
> pointer to.  This is also a bit confusing in the case where you do
> efi_switch_mm(efi_scratch.prev_mm).
> 

This makes sense, I will look into it.

> This whole manipulation seems fairly dangerous to me for another
> reason -- you're taking a user thread (I think) and swapping out its
> mm to something that the user in question should *not* have access to.

We are switching to efi_mm from user mm_struct because
EFI_RUNTIME_SERVICES like efi_set_variable()/efi_get_variable() are
accessible only through efi_pgd. The user thread calls ioctl() which in
turn calls efi_call() and thus efi_switch_mm(). So, I think, the user
still does not have direct access to EFI_RUNTIME_SERVICES memory regions
but accesses them through sys call.

> What if a perf interrupt happens while you're in the alternate mm?

Since we are disabling/enabling interrupts around switching, I think we
are safe. We do these in following functions
phys_efi_set_virtual_address_map()
efi_thunk_set_virtual_address_map()
efi_call_virt_pointer()

> What if you segfault and dump core?

We could seg fault only if firmware touches regions which it shouldn't.
i.e. Firmware touching regions outside EFI_RUNTIME_SERVICES (this is a
UEFI Spec violation). So, in this case of buggy firmware, we panic (this
is an existing problem). We also map EFI_BOOT_TIME_SERVICES into efi_pgd
because we know some buggy firmware touches these regions.

>  Should we maybe just have a flag
> that says "this cpu is using a funny mm", assert that the flag is
> clear when scheduling, and teach perf, coredumps, etc not to touch
> user memory when the flag is set?
> 
> Admittedly, the latter problem may well have existed even before these patches.

Please let me know if you think otherwise.

Matt,
Please feel free to correct my understanding.

Regards,
Sai

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sai Praneeth Prakhya <sai.praneeth.prakhya-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	joeyli <jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin"
	<mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	ricardo.neri-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	Matt Fleming
	<matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel
	<ard.biesheuvel-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"Ravi V. Shankar"
	<ravi.v.shankar-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86/efi: Use efi_switch_mm() rather than manually twiddling with cr3
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:23:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1502843039.9150.19.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUnT0YL_F3mXyJzi=NE5jvFUUQbwjdK5224zDKkTts-UQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 14:46 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Sai Praneeth Prakhya
> <sai.praneeth.prakhya-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > +/*
> > + * Makes the calling kernel thread switch to/from efi_mm context
> > + * Can be used from SetVirtualAddressMap() or during efi runtime calls
> > + * (Note: This routine is heavily inspired from use_mm)
> > + */
> > +void efi_switch_mm(struct mm_struct *mm)
> > +{
> > +       struct task_struct *tsk = current;
> > +
> > +       task_lock(tsk);
> > +       efi_scratch.prev_mm = tsk->active_mm;
> > +       if (efi_scratch.prev_mm != mm) {
> > +               mmgrab(mm);
> > +               tsk->active_mm = mm;
> > +       }
> > +       switch_mm(efi_scratch.prev_mm, mm, NULL);
> > +       task_unlock(tsk);
> > +
> > +       if (efi_scratch.prev_mm != mm)
> > +               mmdrop(efi_scratch.prev_mm);
> 

Thanks for the quick review Andy,

> I'm confused.  You're mmdropping an mm that you are still keeping a
> pointer to.  This is also a bit confusing in the case where you do
> efi_switch_mm(efi_scratch.prev_mm).
> 

This makes sense, I will look into it.

> This whole manipulation seems fairly dangerous to me for another
> reason -- you're taking a user thread (I think) and swapping out its
> mm to something that the user in question should *not* have access to.

We are switching to efi_mm from user mm_struct because
EFI_RUNTIME_SERVICES like efi_set_variable()/efi_get_variable() are
accessible only through efi_pgd. The user thread calls ioctl() which in
turn calls efi_call() and thus efi_switch_mm(). So, I think, the user
still does not have direct access to EFI_RUNTIME_SERVICES memory regions
but accesses them through sys call.

> What if a perf interrupt happens while you're in the alternate mm?

Since we are disabling/enabling interrupts around switching, I think we
are safe. We do these in following functions
phys_efi_set_virtual_address_map()
efi_thunk_set_virtual_address_map()
efi_call_virt_pointer()

> What if you segfault and dump core?

We could seg fault only if firmware touches regions which it shouldn't.
i.e. Firmware touching regions outside EFI_RUNTIME_SERVICES (this is a
UEFI Spec violation). So, in this case of buggy firmware, we panic (this
is an existing problem). We also map EFI_BOOT_TIME_SERVICES into efi_pgd
because we know some buggy firmware touches these regions.

>  Should we maybe just have a flag
> that says "this cpu is using a funny mm", assert that the flag is
> clear when scheduling, and teach perf, coredumps, etc not to touch
> user memory when the flag is set?
> 
> Admittedly, the latter problem may well have existed even before these patches.

Please let me know if you think otherwise.

Matt,
Please feel free to correct my understanding.

Regards,
Sai

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-16  0:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-15 19:18 [PATCH 0/3] Use mm_struct and switch_mm() instead of manually Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 1/3] efi: Use efi_mm in x86 as well as ARM Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/efi: Replace efi_pgd with efi_mm.pgd Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 19:18   ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/efi: Use efi_switch_mm() rather than manually twiddling with cr3 Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 21:46   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-16  0:23     ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya [this message]
2017-08-16  0:23       ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-16  0:47       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-16  0:47         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-16  9:31     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-16  9:53       ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-16  9:53         ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-16 10:07         ` Will Deacon
2017-08-16 10:07           ` Will Deacon
2017-08-16 11:03           ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-16 12:57             ` Matt Fleming
2017-08-16 12:57               ` Matt Fleming
2017-08-16 16:14               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-16 16:14                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-15 22:35                 ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-17 10:35                   ` Will Deacon
2017-08-17 15:52                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-17 15:52                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 10:33                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21 10:33                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21 13:56                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 13:56                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 14:08                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21 15:23                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 15:23                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 15:59                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21 15:59                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21 16:08                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-21 16:08                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-23 22:52                               ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-23 22:52                                 ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-25 15:13                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-25 15:13                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 17:24                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-25  2:36     ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-25 15:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-17  0:06 [PATCH 3/3] x86/efi: Use efi_switch_mm() rather than manually twiddling with %cr3 Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-12-17  0:06 ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya

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