From: Spam <spam@tnonline.net> To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> Cc: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com>, Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>, Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>, <viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>, <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Alexander Lyamin aka FLX <flx@namesys.com>, ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com> Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:29:31 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <1508726027.20040831222931@tnonline.net> (raw) In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0408311252150.2295@ppc970.osdl.org> > On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Horst von Brand wrote: >> >> You do need extra tools anyway, placing them in the kernel is cheating (and >> absolutely pointless, IMHO). > I agree. > There's no point to having the kernel export information that is already > inherent in the main stream. There are two things you are saying in the same sentence here. One I do not agree with. There is point to export information from the main stream to secondary file streams. Just it doesn't have to be done by the kernel. Just do not limit things to a few defined types of things that can be stored in a stream. IMHO a file stream should be able to contain just about anything the user wishes. That said, the kernel should not have to know about the contents. > I've seen all these examples of exposing MP3 ID information as a "side > stream", and that's TOTALLY POINTLESS! The information is already there, > it's in a standard format, and exporting it as a stream buys you > absolutely nothing. True. But this is the case for this specific example. I have stated previously about what I think would be legitimate uses as examples. Of course these apply to me and what I work with. One of the examples were to add streams that contained descriptions or keywords. > Where named attributes make sense is when they are _independent_ data. > Data that is only tangentially related to the main stream itself, and > which the main stream _cannot_ encompass because of some real technical > issue. > In a graphical environment, the "icon" stream is a good example of this. > It literally has _nothing_ to do with the data in the main stream. The > only linkage is a totally non-technical one, where the user wanted to > associate a secondary stream with the main stream _without_ altering the > main one. THAT is where named streams make sense. > But if you want to look at one particular file inside a tar-file, do so in > user space. There are zero advantages to exposing it as a side-stream, and > there are absolutely _tons_ of disadvantages. The tar archive support seem (is) to be useless because tar is also so supported and implemented in every type of application out there. It is also easy to script and otherwise work with. But the idea to be able to extend the filesystem to show/represent data as file streams and meta directores is very good. Someone might come up with an idea to allow browsing and changing of data inside XML files. Of course this may already be done with sed and other tools. > In short, named streams only make sense if: > - they are tied to the file some way that is _independent_ of the file > contents (since if it's dependent on the file contents, you're just a > ton better off regenerating it with a caching server) > - there are serious reasons to keep the lookup synchronized (since if > there isn't such a reason, you're just better off with a separate > shadow tree in user space) > And realize that the "separate shadow tree" actually works very well. > That's how version control systems like CVS have always worked. It's > certainly how you can make icon information work too. If you use a tool > for accessing the data, the tool can maintain coherency and you'll never > care about the side stream. Just that with shadow trees (I assume they are stored simply in another folder beside the file) you won't be able to "cp filea /mnt/backup" and keep the extra stuff. Sure icons could also easily be stores as file.icon, just like on the Amiga :). It just isn't as nice. > Which means that normally we really don't _want_ named streams. In 99% of > all cases we can use equally good - and _much_ simpler - tool-based > solutions. > Which means that the only _real_ technical issue for supporting named > streams really ends up being things like samba, which want named streams > just because the work they do fundamentally is about them, for externally > dictated reasons. Doing named streams for any other reason is likely just > being stupid. I doubt it would be stupid. Perhaps today just not needed for many things. > Once you do decide that you have to do named streams, you might then > decide to use them for convenient things like icons. But it should very > much be a secondary issue at that point. I think we focus to much on the actual contents of these streams. Do we really have to know what will in the future be stored inside these streams? For example. Applications may use file streams for locking instead of having a .lock file. The future isn't known, and we shouldn't try to limit what we can put in the streams. You said 99% of the uses won't need them. True. The same is with xattr, ACLs and so many other things. Even if 0.1% of the users today would use it I think we should have the support for named streams. ~S > Linus
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From: Spam <spam@tnonline.net> To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> Cc: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com>, Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>, Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>, viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Lyamin aka FLX <flx@namesys.com>, ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com> Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:29:31 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <1508726027.20040831222931@tnonline.net> (raw) In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0408311252150.2295@ppc970.osdl.org> > On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Horst von Brand wrote: >> >> You do need extra tools anyway, placing them in the kernel is cheating (and >> absolutely pointless, IMHO). > I agree. > There's no point to having the kernel export information that is already > inherent in the main stream. There are two things you are saying in the same sentence here. One I do not agree with. There is point to export information from the main stream to secondary file streams. Just it doesn't have to be done by the kernel. Just do not limit things to a few defined types of things that can be stored in a stream. IMHO a file stream should be able to contain just about anything the user wishes. That said, the kernel should not have to know about the contents. > I've seen all these examples of exposing MP3 ID information as a "side > stream", and that's TOTALLY POINTLESS! The information is already there, > it's in a standard format, and exporting it as a stream buys you > absolutely nothing. True. But this is the case for this specific example. I have stated previously about what I think would be legitimate uses as examples. Of course these apply to me and what I work with. One of the examples were to add streams that contained descriptions or keywords. > Where named attributes make sense is when they are _independent_ data. > Data that is only tangentially related to the main stream itself, and > which the main stream _cannot_ encompass because of some real technical > issue. > In a graphical environment, the "icon" stream is a good example of this. > It literally has _nothing_ to do with the data in the main stream. The > only linkage is a totally non-technical one, where the user wanted to > associate a secondary stream with the main stream _without_ altering the > main one. THAT is where named streams make sense. > But if you want to look at one particular file inside a tar-file, do so in > user space. There are zero advantages to exposing it as a side-stream, and > there are absolutely _tons_ of disadvantages. The tar archive support seem (is) to be useless because tar is also so supported and implemented in every type of application out there. It is also easy to script and otherwise work with. But the idea to be able to extend the filesystem to show/represent data as file streams and meta directores is very good. Someone might come up with an idea to allow browsing and changing of data inside XML files. Of course this may already be done with sed and other tools. > In short, named streams only make sense if: > - they are tied to the file some way that is _independent_ of the file > contents (since if it's dependent on the file contents, you're just a > ton better off regenerating it with a caching server) > - there are serious reasons to keep the lookup synchronized (since if > there isn't such a reason, you're just better off with a separate > shadow tree in user space) > And realize that the "separate shadow tree" actually works very well. > That's how version control systems like CVS have always worked. It's > certainly how you can make icon information work too. If you use a tool > for accessing the data, the tool can maintain coherency and you'll never > care about the side stream. Just that with shadow trees (I assume they are stored simply in another folder beside the file) you won't be able to "cp filea /mnt/backup" and keep the extra stuff. Sure icons could also easily be stores as file.icon, just like on the Amiga :). It just isn't as nice. > Which means that normally we really don't _want_ named streams. In 99% of > all cases we can use equally good - and _much_ simpler - tool-based > solutions. > Which means that the only _real_ technical issue for supporting named > streams really ends up being things like samba, which want named streams > just because the work they do fundamentally is about them, for externally > dictated reasons. Doing named streams for any other reason is likely just > being stupid. I doubt it would be stupid. Perhaps today just not needed for many things. > Once you do decide that you have to do named streams, you might then > decide to use them for convenient things like icons. But it should very > much be a secondary issue at that point. I think we focus to much on the actual contents of these streams. Do we really have to know what will in the future be stored inside these streams? For example. Applications may use file streams for locking instead of having a .lock file. The future isn't known, and we shouldn't try to limit what we can put in the streams. You said 99% of the uses won't need them. True. The same is with xattr, ACLs and so many other things. Even if 0.1% of the users today would use it I think we should have the support for named streams. ~S > Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-31 20:52 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 1388+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2004-08-24 20:25 silent semantic changes with reiser4 Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-24 20:35 ` Lee Revell 2004-08-24 20:38 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-24 20:42 ` Lee Revell 2004-08-24 21:18 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-24 20:38 ` Jeff Garzik 2004-08-24 20:53 ` viro 2004-08-24 21:22 ` viro 2004-08-25 18:28 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-25 18:45 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 9:02 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 18:38 ` William Lee Irwin III 2004-08-26 18:49 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 18:56 ` William Lee Irwin III 2004-08-27 8:14 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 10:10 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 2004-08-27 15:25 ` William Lee Irwin III [not found] ` <20040827161539.GC28876@khan.acc.umu.se> 2004-08-27 16:18 ` William Lee Irwin III 2004-08-25 19:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-25 19:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-25 20:06 ` Matthew Wilcox 2004-08-26 8:41 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:41 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-25 20:08 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-25 20:19 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-25 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-25 20:25 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-25 20:59 ` viro 2004-08-26 8:43 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:43 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:42 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:42 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 9:24 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 18:45 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 18:45 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 13:38 ` Chris Mason 2004-08-26 23:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 9:16 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-25 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-25 20:35 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-25 20:41 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-25 20:41 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-25 20:51 ` Chris Mason 2004-08-25 20:58 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-25 20:58 ` mjt 2004-08-25 20:58 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-25 21:03 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-25 21:03 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 9:00 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 9:00 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-25 20:42 ` viro 2004-08-25 21:00 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-25 21:00 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-25 22:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2004-08-26 8:35 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:35 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 11:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2004-08-26 11:44 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 11:44 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 12:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2004-08-26 12:23 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 12:23 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-27 18:38 ` Alex Zarochentsev 2004-08-28 6:17 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 0:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2004-08-28 10:49 ` Yury Umanets 2004-08-28 11:11 ` Yury Umanets 2004-08-28 11:11 ` Yury Umanets 2004-08-25 21:00 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-25 21:25 ` viro 2004-08-26 0:11 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 0:30 ` viro 2004-08-26 1:00 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 3:13 ` viro 2004-08-26 8:49 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:49 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 14:05 ` Adrian Bunk 2004-08-26 14:25 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 14:45 ` Matthew Wilcox 2004-08-26 15:04 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 15:12 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 16:00 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-27 2:17 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 15:41 ` Nikita Danilov 2004-08-29 12:34 ` Alex Zarochentsev 2004-08-29 15:52 ` Shaya Potter 2004-09-01 22:05 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 15:02 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-28 23:14 ` Horst von Brand 2004-09-01 20:08 ` The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Jamie Lokier 2004-09-01 20:50 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-09-02 0:24 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-09-02 1:07 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-09-02 2:30 ` Why do we need openat? 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Bligh 2004-09-02 18:38 ` Christer Weinigel 2004-09-02 19:02 ` Christian Iversen 2004-09-02 19:52 ` Steve Bergman 2004-09-02 19:52 ` Steve Bergman 2004-09-02 20:06 ` Spam 2004-09-02 20:06 ` Spam 2004-09-02 20:16 ` Martin J. Bligh 2004-09-02 20:35 ` Erik Hensema 2004-09-02 9:04 ` Hans Reiser 2004-09-02 12:50 ` James Bruce 2004-09-02 17:50 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-09-02 7:55 ` Robin Rosenberg 2004-09-02 5:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-09-02 9:46 ` The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Alan Cox 2004-09-02 16:11 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-09-02 17:41 ` Dave Kleikamp 2004-09-02 17:46 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-09-02 17:50 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-09-02 18:03 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-09-02 19:04 ` Charles P. Wright 2004-09-02 19:42 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-09-02 20:05 ` Charles P. Wright 2004-09-02 20:30 ` Erez Zadok 2004-09-02 18:46 ` Alan Cox 2004-09-02 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-09-02 19:50 ` Spam 2004-09-02 19:50 ` Spam 2004-09-02 20:38 ` Frank van Maarseveen 2004-09-02 21:36 ` Dave Kleikamp 2004-09-02 14:06 ` Horst von Brand 2004-09-02 17:32 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-09-02 18:23 ` Christer Weinigel 2004-08-26 18:35 ` silent semantic changes with reiser4 Joel Becker 2004-08-26 19:53 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-27 9:19 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-27 9:19 ` mjt 2004-08-27 9:19 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-27 12:26 ` Matthew Wilcox 2004-08-27 12:26 ` Matthew Wilcox 2004-08-26 10:05 ` Chris Wedgwood 2004-08-26 11:02 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 11:19 ` Spam 2004-08-26 11:19 ` Spam 2004-08-28 0:28 ` Horst von Brand 2004-08-26 15:50 ` Will Dyson 2004-08-26 20:38 ` Lee Revell 2004-08-26 20:38 ` Lee Revell 2004-08-26 20:50 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 20:50 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 20:57 ` Lee Revell 2004-08-26 20:57 ` Lee Revell 2004-08-27 9:21 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-27 9:21 ` mjt 2004-08-27 9:21 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-27 11:34 ` Spam 2004-08-27 11:34 ` Spam 2004-08-26 21:00 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-27 21:06 ` Pavel Machek 2004-08-31 1:00 ` David Masover 2004-08-31 8:21 ` Pavel Machek 2004-08-31 18:28 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-31 19:31 ` Horst von Brand 2004-08-31 20:05 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-31 20:29 ` Spam [this message] 2004-08-31 20:29 ` Spam 2004-08-31 20:32 ` Pavel Machek 2004-08-31 20:38 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-31 20:54 ` Pavel Machek 2004-08-31 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-31 22:07 ` Pavel Machek 2004-08-31 23:19 ` Christer Weinigel 2004-09-01 1:43 ` David Masover 2004-09-01 5:02 ` Pavel Machek 2004-08-31 21:07 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-31 21:07 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-31 23:02 ` Christer Weinigel 2004-08-31 23:20 ` Spam 2004-08-31 23:20 ` Spam 2004-09-01 0:00 ` John Newbigin 2004-09-01 12:10 ` Alan Cox 2004-09-01 20:21 ` Hubert Chan 2004-09-01 19:44 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-09-01 1:14 ` David Masover 2004-09-01 1:14 ` David Masover 2004-09-01 4:59 ` Pavel Machek 2004-09-01 5:23 ` Hubert Chan 2004-09-01 16:14 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-09-01 20:18 ` Pavel Machek 2004-09-01 21:59 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-09-01 22:51 ` Lee Revell 2004-09-01 22:51 ` Lee Revell 2004-09-02 14:25 ` Horst von Brand 2004-09-02 17:47 ` Lee Revell 2004-09-02 17:47 ` Lee Revell 2004-09-02 19:41 ` Spam 2004-09-02 19:41 ` Spam 2004-09-02 18:55 ` Alan Cox 2004-09-02 20:07 ` Spam 2004-09-02 20:07 ` Spam 2004-09-02 19:17 ` Alan Cox 2004-09-02 20:28 ` Spam 2004-09-02 20:28 ` Spam 2004-09-02 20:42 ` Pavel Machek 2004-09-02 19:49 ` Pavel Machek 2004-09-02 20:01 ` Lee Revell 2004-09-02 20:01 ` Lee Revell 2004-09-02 19:16 ` Alan Cox 2004-09-02 20:04 ` Chris Wedgwood 2004-09-02 20:10 ` Spam 2004-09-02 20:10 ` Spam 2004-09-02 20:43 ` Pavel Machek 2004-09-02 20:47 ` Lee Revell 2004-09-02 20:47 ` Lee Revell 2004-09-02 20:49 ` Chris Wedgwood 2004-09-02 20:57 ` Lee Revell 2004-09-02 20:57 ` Lee Revell 2004-09-02 20:58 ` Chris Wedgwood 2004-09-02 20:58 ` Pavel Machek 2004-09-01 5:50 ` Hans Reiser 2004-09-01 6:06 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-09-01 6:32 ` Hubert Chan 2004-09-01 7:22 ` Hans Reiser 2004-09-01 7:22 ` Hans Reiser 2004-09-01 11:51 ` Alexander G. 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Smith 2004-09-01 23:04 ` Hubert Chan 2004-09-01 11:49 ` Alan Cox 2004-09-01 1:10 ` David Masover 2004-09-01 1:10 ` David Masover 2004-08-27 21:01 ` Pavel Machek 2004-08-26 1:13 ` Chris Wright 2004-08-29 9:55 ` Mikaël Cluseau 2004-08-26 8:43 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:43 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-25 21:52 ` Matt Mackall 2004-08-25 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 0:18 ` Mikulas Patocka 2004-08-26 0:27 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 0:51 ` Mikulas Patocka 2004-08-26 8:36 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:36 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 10:53 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 10:59 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 11:07 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 11:17 ` Spam 2004-08-26 11:17 ` Spam 2004-08-26 0:57 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 0:57 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 7:51 ` Helge Hafting 2004-08-26 9:21 ` Paul Jackson 2004-08-26 10:47 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 11:19 ` Paul Jackson 2004-08-27 12:33 ` Helge Hafting 2004-08-27 12:33 ` Helge Hafting 2004-08-26 8:40 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:40 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 14:46 ` Lars 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2004-08-27 10:33 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 2004-08-27 18:48 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-27 18:48 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-28 16:33 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 2004-08-28 16:33 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 2004-08-28 17:27 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-28 17:27 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-30 14:10 ` Alex Zarochentsev 2004-08-29 18:43 ` Alex Zarochentsev 2004-08-25 20:20 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-08-26 8:42 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:42 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 13:27 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 13:27 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 13:56 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-26 19:58 ` Paul Jackson 2004-08-26 19:58 ` Paul Jackson 2004-08-26 23:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-25 20:22 ` Chris Mason 2004-08-26 8:42 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:42 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 9:36 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-25 20:23 ` Chris Friesen 2004-08-25 22:28 ` Andrew Morton 2004-08-25 22:51 ` Spam 2004-08-25 22:51 ` Spam 2004-08-25 22:51 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-25 22:59 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-25 23:19 ` Spam 2004-08-25 23:19 ` Spam 2004-08-25 23:32 ` Andrew Morton 2004-08-25 23:37 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-08-25 23:46 ` Wichert Akkerman 2004-08-26 0:01 ` Tierra 2004-08-26 0:05 ` Wichert Akkerman [not found] ` <c7ef32a70408251732442bff16@mail.gmail.com> 2004-08-26 0:33 ` Tierra 2004-08-26 0:42 ` Nicholas Miell 2004-08-26 0:42 ` Nicholas Miell 2004-08-26 1:03 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 1:26 ` Nicholas Miell 2004-08-26 1:53 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 2:02 ` Nicholas Miell 2004-08-26 8:41 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:41 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 19:06 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 2004-08-26 19:06 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 2004-08-26 1:22 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-08-26 11:01 ` Wichert Akkerman [not found] ` <c7ef32a70408260942c8efa54@mail.gmail.com> 2004-08-26 16:44 ` Tierra 2004-08-26 4:44 ` Matt Mackall 2004-08-26 5:09 ` Nicholas Miell 2004-08-26 5:17 ` James Morris 2004-08-26 5:17 ` James Morris 2004-08-26 5:32 ` Matt Mackall 2004-08-26 7:34 ` Denis Vlasenko 2004-08-26 11:42 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 11:42 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 12:00 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 12:00 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-28 11:00 ` Yury Umanets 2004-08-28 11:00 ` Yury Umanets 2004-08-28 11:12 ` Yury Umanets 2004-08-28 11:12 ` Yury Umanets 2004-08-26 12:12 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 12:25 ` Wichert Akkerman 2004-08-26 20:35 ` Lee Revell 2004-08-26 20:35 ` Lee Revell 2004-08-27 0:02 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 7:53 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-26 7:53 ` mjt 2004-08-26 7:53 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-26 16:32 ` Jan Harkes 2004-08-26 16:48 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 18:07 ` Jan Harkes 2004-08-31 3:39 ` Tom Vier 2004-08-31 4:08 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-31 4:38 ` Jeff Garzik 2004-08-31 5:30 ` Userspace file systems & MKs (Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Bill Huey 2004-08-31 5:56 ` Jeff Garzik 2004-08-31 6:50 ` Bill Huey [not found] ` <20040831155613.2b25df1e.diegocg@teleline.es> 2004-08-31 20:52 ` Bill Huey 2004-09-02 17:20 ` Diego Calleja 2004-09-02 21:37 ` Bill Huey 2004-08-31 21:23 ` Bill Huey 2004-08-31 9:01 ` Tonnerre 2004-08-31 11:15 ` Userspace file systems Luca Ferroni 2004-08-31 20:53 ` Userspace file systems & MKs (Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Bill Huey 2004-08-31 19:01 ` silent semantic changes with reiser4 Ryan Breen 2004-08-31 19:12 ` Jeff Garzik 2004-09-01 15:37 ` Clay Haapala 2004-08-31 10:57 ` Alan Cox 2004-08-31 17:15 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-31 21:13 ` Frank van Maarseveen 2004-08-31 21:25 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-31 19:45 ` Toon van der Pas 2004-08-26 17:14 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-26 17:14 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-26 8:31 ` Helge Hafting 2004-08-26 8:31 ` Helge Hafting 2004-08-26 18:17 ` Horst von Brand 2004-08-28 16:49 ` Helge Hafting 2004-08-26 9:59 ` Spam 2004-08-26 9:59 ` Spam 2004-08-26 13:05 ` Joseph Fannin 2004-08-26 6:53 ` Paul Jackson 2004-08-26 9:54 ` Spam 2004-08-26 9:54 ` Spam 2004-08-26 5:23 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 8:16 ` Helge Hafting 2004-08-26 8:16 ` Helge Hafting 2004-08-26 9:51 ` Spam 2004-08-26 9:51 ` Spam 2004-08-26 17:59 ` Shawn Rutledge 2004-08-26 18:17 ` Valdis.Kletnieks 2004-08-27 8:06 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 9:40 ` Spam 2004-08-26 9:40 ` Spam 2004-08-26 9:49 ` Andrew Morton 2004-08-26 10:20 ` Spam 2004-08-26 10:20 ` Spam 2004-08-26 10:24 ` Andrew Morton 2004-08-26 10:51 ` Spam 2004-08-26 10:51 ` Spam 2004-08-26 10:55 ` Andrew Morton 2004-08-26 11:15 ` Spam 2004-08-26 11:15 ` Spam 2004-08-26 11:20 ` Andrew Morton 2004-08-26 11:29 ` Wichert Akkerman 2004-08-28 0:24 ` Horst von Brand 2004-08-26 11:27 ` Wichert Akkerman 2004-08-26 13:39 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 13:39 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 13:59 ` Spam 2004-08-26 13:59 ` Spam 2004-08-26 14:39 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana 2004-08-27 23:58 ` Horst von Brand 2004-08-29 15:17 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-29 16:18 ` Spam 2004-08-29 16:18 ` Spam 2004-08-29 19:10 ` Tonnerre 2004-08-30 0:39 ` Alexander G. M. Smith 2004-08-30 18:39 ` Spam 2004-08-30 18:39 ` Spam 2004-08-30 18:39 ` Spam 2004-08-31 8:15 ` Tonnerre 2004-09-01 20:16 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-09-01 20:28 ` Dave Kleikamp 2004-09-02 3:42 ` Hubert Chan 2004-09-02 3:42 ` Hubert Chan 2004-09-02 3:52 ` David Masover 2004-09-02 5:57 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-09-02 9:50 ` Alan Cox 2004-09-02 20:25 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-09-02 18:16 ` Christer Weinigel 2004-09-02 19:58 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 11:48 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 16:07 ` James Bruce 2004-08-26 16:58 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 21:34 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana 2004-08-26 23:52 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:52 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 11:11 ` Bernd Petrovitsch 2004-08-26 23:59 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:59 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 10:54 ` Wichert Akkerman 2004-08-26 23:48 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:48 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 11:16 ` Christer Weinigel 2004-08-26 11:16 ` Christer Weinigel 2004-08-26 11:35 ` Spam 2004-08-26 11:35 ` Spam 2004-08-26 11:33 ` Wichert Akkerman 2004-08-26 11:43 ` Spam 2004-08-26 11:43 ` Spam 2004-08-27 7:41 ` Bernd Petrovitsch 2004-08-27 8:05 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 8:05 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 8:51 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-27 8:49 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-27 9:03 ` Bernd Petrovitsch 2004-08-26 23:56 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:56 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 1:05 ` Andreas Dilger 2004-08-27 0:00 ` Stelian Ionescu 2004-08-26 11:58 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 14:00 ` Denis Vlasenko 2004-08-26 14:00 ` Denis Vlasenko 2004-08-26 14:12 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 14:12 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 14:24 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 15:44 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 15:54 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 15:54 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 16:04 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 16:04 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 16:07 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 16:44 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 18:40 ` David Masover 2004-08-26 18:40 ` David Masover 2004-08-26 21:17 ` David Lang 2004-08-26 21:05 ` David Lang 2004-08-26 21:19 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 21:31 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 22:30 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana 2004-08-26 22:32 ` Chris Dukes 2004-08-26 22:52 ` David Lang 2004-08-26 16:53 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 19:32 ` John Stoffel 2004-08-26 19:32 ` John Stoffel 2004-08-26 19:51 ` Denis Vlasenko 2004-08-26 20:13 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-30 17:37 ` Alex Zarochentsev 2004-08-30 18:51 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-30 18:51 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 17:05 ` Diego Calleja 2004-08-26 17:16 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 17:16 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 17:20 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 17:27 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 19:09 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 17:57 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 17:57 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 18:41 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 18:41 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 18:59 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 18:59 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 19:14 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 19:14 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 19:23 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 19:44 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 19:44 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 19:47 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 20:10 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 20:10 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 20:17 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 20:21 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 20:35 ` Stephen Wille Padnos 2004-08-31 11:01 ` Claus Färber 2004-08-31 11:01 ` Claus Färber 2004-08-31 11:01 ` Claus Färber 2004-09-01 15:13 ` Alan Cox 2004-09-01 15:13 ` Alan Cox 2004-08-26 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 22:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 22:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:27 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 23:47 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:47 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 2:03 ` viro 2004-08-27 8:10 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 8:10 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 20:48 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 20:52 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-08-27 9:19 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-28 3:56 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-08-28 19:18 ` Brad Boyer 2004-08-26 22:20 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana 2004-08-29 0:04 ` Horst von Brand 2004-09-01 22:45 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-09-02 5:23 ` Olaf Hering 2004-09-02 5:23 ` Olaf Hering 2004-09-02 5:23 ` Olaf Hering 2004-08-27 8:06 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 8:06 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 19:29 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 19:42 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 19:42 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-27 8:46 ` Herbert Poetzl 2004-08-26 19:02 ` David Masover 2004-08-27 8:06 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 8:06 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 14:12 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-27 14:12 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-27 18:27 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 18:44 ` Lee Revell 2004-08-27 19:13 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-27 19:13 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-28 6:10 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 20:56 ` Christian Mayrhuber 2004-08-27 14:45 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-27 14:45 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-27 15:15 ` Spam 2004-08-27 15:15 ` Spam 2004-08-27 15:15 ` Spam 2004-08-27 15:41 ` [SPAM] " Jamie Lokier 2004-08-27 17:59 ` Hendrik Visage 2004-08-28 0:19 ` Spam 2004-08-28 0:19 ` Spam 2004-08-28 0:19 ` Spam 2004-08-28 1:59 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-28 1:59 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-28 2:05 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-28 9:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 9:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 11:21 ` Spam 2004-08-28 11:21 ` Spam 2004-08-28 17:19 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-28 17:19 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-28 17:05 ` Helge Hafting 2004-08-28 17:05 ` Helge Hafting 2004-08-28 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-28 18:20 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-28 18:20 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-28 18:29 ` viro 2004-08-28 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-28 18:56 ` viro 2004-08-28 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-28 19:41 ` Andries Brouwer 2004-08-28 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-29 13:56 ` Andries Brouwer 2004-08-28 19:45 ` viro 2004-08-29 5:12 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-29 5:44 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-08-29 0:46 ` Paul Jakma 2004-08-28 22:29 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 22:29 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-29 0:40 ` The Necessity of File Types (was silent semantic changes with reiser4) Alexander G. M. Smith 2004-08-31 0:42 ` David Masover 2004-08-29 5:01 ` silent semantic changes with reiser4 Linus Torvalds 2004-08-29 9:36 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-29 10:44 ` CaT 2004-08-29 21:05 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-29 21:05 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-30 6:31 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-29 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-29 19:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-29 20:14 ` Nicholas Miell 2004-08-29 20:14 ` Nicholas Miell 2004-08-29 21:35 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-29 21:35 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-29 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-29 15:12 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-29 16:20 ` viro 2004-08-30 15:00 ` John Stoffel 2004-08-31 0:26 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-31 1:10 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-28 23:47 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-08-30 13:56 ` Helge Hafting 2004-08-30 13:56 ` Helge Hafting 2004-08-30 23:56 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-30 23:56 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-27 18:40 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-27 18:40 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-28 0:02 ` Spam 2004-08-28 0:32 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-28 0:32 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-28 1:05 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-28 1:05 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-27 18:28 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 18:28 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 6:08 ` Paul Jackson 2004-08-29 15:02 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-29 18:28 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-29 18:36 ` viro 2004-08-29 18:57 ` viro 2004-08-29 20:06 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-29 21:27 ` viro 2004-08-29 21:50 ` Linus Torvalds [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.60.0408300009001.10533@alpha.polcom.net> 2004-08-29 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-29 23:28 ` viro 2004-08-30 1:43 ` Neil Brown 2004-09-02 10:51 ` Stephan von Krawczynski 2004-09-02 11:26 ` Frank van Maarseveen 2004-09-02 12:58 ` Stephan von Krawczynski 2004-08-29 23:17 ` Trond Myklebust 2004-08-29 23:17 ` Trond Myklebust 2004-08-29 23:25 ` viro 2004-08-29 23:54 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-30 1:42 ` Trond Myklebust 2004-08-30 1:42 ` Trond Myklebust 2004-08-30 2:31 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-30 3:01 ` viro 2004-08-30 3:55 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-30 4:46 ` viro 2004-08-30 6:33 ` viro 2004-08-30 3:12 ` Trond Myklebust 2004-08-30 3:12 ` Trond Myklebust 2004-08-30 5:42 ` Brad Boyer 2004-08-30 0:07 ` Alexander G. M. Smith 2004-08-30 2:18 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-30 7:42 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-30 13:17 ` Alexander G. M. Smith 2004-08-30 17:43 ` Paul Stewart 2004-08-30 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-29 15:00 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-31 0:46 ` David Masover 2004-08-31 6:47 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-31 6:47 ` Hans Reiser 2004-09-01 2:04 ` David Masover 2004-09-01 2:04 ` David Masover 2004-08-26 20:44 ` Martin J. Bligh 2004-08-26 20:54 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 21:00 ` Martin J. Bligh 2004-08-26 21:09 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 21:09 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 21:24 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-27 9:36 ` David Greaves 2004-08-26 22:44 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg 2004-08-26 21:29 ` Chris Wright 2004-08-27 8:19 ` Anton Altaparmakov 2004-08-27 8:19 ` Anton Altaparmakov 2004-08-26 18:28 ` Denis Vlasenko 2004-08-26 18:28 ` Denis Vlasenko 2004-08-26 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 19:13 ` viro 2004-08-26 20:32 ` viro 2004-08-26 20:36 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 20:36 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 21:28 ` [some sanity for a change] possible design issues for hybrids viro 2004-08-26 22:04 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 22:36 ` viro 2004-08-26 22:45 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 22:53 ` viro 2004-08-26 23:24 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 23:40 ` viro 2004-08-26 23:57 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-27 1:01 ` viro 2004-08-27 2:46 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-27 3:45 ` viro 2004-08-27 3:57 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-27 4:30 ` viro 2004-08-27 4:42 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-27 4:46 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-27 8:56 ` Anton Altaparmakov 2004-08-27 8:56 ` Anton Altaparmakov 2004-08-27 9:00 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 19:36 ` silent semantic changes with reiser4 Jonathan Abbey 2004-08-26 20:16 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 20:25 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 20:25 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 21:45 ` Nikita Danilov 2004-08-26 21:48 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 21:48 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 22:17 ` Emil Larsson 2004-08-26 22:21 ` Nikita Danilov 2004-08-26 22:29 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 22:29 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 23:35 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:35 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 2:00 ` Stephen Wille Padnos 2004-08-27 8:08 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 17:40 ` Diego Calleja 2004-08-26 17:40 ` Diego Calleja 2004-08-26 17:55 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 17:59 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 17:59 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 18:20 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-27 8:06 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 8:06 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 2:14 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 15:19 ` Denis Vlasenko 2004-08-26 15:19 ` Denis Vlasenko 2004-08-29 14:30 ` Alan Cox 2004-08-29 17:42 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-08-29 18:41 ` Trond Myklebust 2004-08-29 18:41 ` Trond Myklebust 2004-08-29 19:38 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-09-01 20:19 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-09-01 20:26 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-09-01 20:31 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-09-01 20:35 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-09-01 20:47 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-09-01 20:51 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-09-01 21:35 ` Lee Revell 2004-09-01 21:35 ` Lee Revell 2004-09-01 23:22 ` Oliver Hunt 2004-09-02 12:54 ` Theodore Ts'o 2004-09-02 14:45 ` Stuart Young 2004-09-01 22:05 ` Hubert Chan 2004-09-01 22:05 ` Hubert Chan 2004-09-01 21:09 ` David Lang 2004-09-02 9:48 ` Alan Cox 2004-09-02 11:13 ` Oliver Neukum 2004-09-02 11:01 ` Alan Cox 2004-09-01 20:25 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 14:42 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana 2004-08-26 13:36 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 13:36 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 13:59 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 14:07 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 14:07 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 23:54 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:54 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 17:32 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-08-26 18:17 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 18:17 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 22:03 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana 2004-08-27 5:28 ` Jeremy Allison 2004-08-27 6:20 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-27 6:20 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-27 8:05 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 8:05 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 8:13 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 8:13 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 9:03 ` Anton Altaparmakov 2004-08-26 9:03 ` Anton Altaparmakov 2004-08-26 10:45 ` Christian Mayrhuber 2004-08-26 10:52 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 12:43 ` Olivier Galibert 2004-08-26 12:44 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 12:49 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-26 12:49 ` mjt 2004-08-26 12:49 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-26 12:52 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 13:35 ` Christian Mayrhuber 2004-08-26 13:35 ` Christian Mayrhuber 2004-08-26 15:15 ` Adrian Bunk 2004-08-26 8:44 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:44 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:31 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 8:45 ` Andrew Morton 2004-08-26 9:24 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 9:24 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 19:26 ` Lee Revell 2004-08-26 19:26 ` Lee Revell 2004-08-26 19:33 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-27 8:05 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 8:05 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 9:24 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 19:34 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 19:45 ` Lee Revell 2004-08-26 19:45 ` Lee Revell 2004-08-26 20:30 ` Dmitry Baryshkov 2004-08-26 20:38 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 20:38 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 20:49 ` Dmitry Baryshkov 2004-08-26 21:33 ` Nikita Danilov 2004-08-26 21:46 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 21:46 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 22:03 ` Nikita Danilov 2004-08-26 22:05 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-27 8:12 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 8:12 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 8:57 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 12:18 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 12:18 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 12:49 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 13:00 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 13:00 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 13:07 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 13:17 ` reiser4 plugins (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 13:17 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 13:24 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 13:24 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 13:35 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 13:35 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 13:40 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 13:58 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 15:37 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 15:48 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 16:06 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 16:14 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 16:25 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 16:39 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 16:39 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 23:55 ` reiser4 plugins Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:55 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 12:04 ` Nikita Danilov 2004-08-27 18:15 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 18:15 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 18:55 ` Nikita Danilov 2004-08-28 9:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 9:53 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 13:47 ` Nikita Danilov 2004-08-28 14:10 ` Konstantin Besch 2004-08-28 22:09 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 23:45 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-29 9:35 ` Nikita Danilov 2004-08-29 11:17 ` Alex Zarochentsev 2004-08-27 22:29 ` Steve Bergman 2004-08-27 22:29 ` Steve Bergman 2004-08-28 6:54 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 10:09 ` Steve Bergman 2004-08-29 11:52 ` Alex Zarochentsev 2004-08-29 11:55 ` Alex Zarochentsev 2004-08-29 11:42 ` Alex Zarochentsev 2004-08-28 9:41 ` Redeeman 2004-08-26 23:54 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:54 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 13:52 ` reiser4 plugins (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 13:52 ` Rik van Riel 2004-08-26 13:58 ` Chris Mason 2004-08-26 14:02 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 14:02 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-28 11:18 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-28 11:22 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-28 11:46 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-28 11:51 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-28 12:18 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-28 11:58 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-28 16:11 ` Jan Harkes 2004-08-28 16:26 ` Nikita Danilov 2004-08-28 19:41 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-28 10:59 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-28 10:59 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-28 10:59 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-28 11:12 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-28 12:05 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-28 13:56 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-28 19:23 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-28 19:27 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-28 22:36 ` reiser4 plugins Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 22:36 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 11:14 ` reiser4 plugins (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-28 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-28 19:03 ` Alexander Lyamin 2004-08-28 19:09 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-28 21:41 ` reiser4 plugins Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 21:41 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-30 16:02 ` Herbert Poetzl 2004-08-30 18:55 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-30 18:55 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 19:26 ` reiser4 plugins (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Linus Torvalds 2004-08-26 13:27 ` silent semantic changes with reiser4 Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 13:27 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 14:44 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 16:03 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 16:19 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 16:23 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 17:08 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 23:54 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 23:54 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-26 9:34 ` Christoph Hellwig 2004-08-26 9:37 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-26 18:40 ` Thomas Cataldo 2004-08-26 12:30 ` Redeeman 2004-08-26 16:32 ` Will Dyson 2004-08-26 16:44 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 16:44 ` Christophe Saout 2004-08-26 17:22 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-27 8:08 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 8:08 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-27 18:20 ` Will Dyson 2004-08-27 18:38 ` David Ford 2004-08-27 18:38 ` David Ford 2004-08-28 6:14 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 9:54 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 9:54 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-31 3:14 ` Will Dyson 2004-08-28 15:18 ` Separating Indexing and Searching (was silent semantic changes with reiser4) Alexander G. M. Smith 2004-08-28 22:11 ` Hans Reiser 2004-08-28 22:12 ` Hans Reiser 2004-09-01 20:41 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-31 1:57 ` Will Dyson 2004-08-31 2:33 ` Alexander G. M. Smith 2004-08-31 3:22 ` Will Dyson 2004-08-26 18:12 ` silent semantic changes with reiser4 Horst von Brand 2004-08-27 20:32 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-27 20:32 ` mjt 2004-08-27 20:32 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-27 20:38 ` Linus Torvalds 2004-08-27 20:48 ` Re[2]: " Spam 2004-08-27 20:53 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-27 20:53 ` mjt 2004-08-27 20:53 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-27 21:33 ` Bill Huey 2004-08-28 9:55 ` Hans Reiser 2004-09-01 22:45 ` Bill Huey 2004-08-27 20:44 ` Spam 2004-08-27 20:44 ` Spam [not found] ` <200408291521.i7TFLsQk028363@localhost.localdomain> 2004-08-29 16:52 ` Spam 2004-08-29 16:52 ` Spam 2004-08-29 17:22 ` Nikita Danilov 2004-08-29 17:22 ` Nikita Danilov 2004-08-29 18:12 ` Markus Törnqvist 2004-08-29 16:53 ` Spam 2004-08-29 16:53 ` Spam 2004-08-29 16:54 ` Spam 2004-08-29 16:54 ` Spam 2004-09-01 21:43 ` Jamie Lokier 2004-08-26 20:04 ` Martin J. Bligh 2004-08-26 21:18 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-26 21:18 ` Hubert Chan 2004-08-27 21:23 ` vfs2 (was Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Pavel Machek
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