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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Timur Tabi <timur@codeaurora.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	"thierry.reding@gmail.com" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org>,
	Andy Gross <andy.gross@linaro.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	Varadarajan Narayanan <varada@codeaurora.org>,
	Archit Taneja <architt@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] [v4] pinctrl: qcom: qdf2xxx: add support for new ACPI HID QCOM8002
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 16:36:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1513175798.7000.15.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <88349f2e-5243-8061-cc72-d01fa70e6f2e@codeaurora.org>

On Tue, 2017-12-12 at 14:27 -0600, Timur Tabi wrote:
> On 12/12/2017 05:07 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> 
> > Not ACPI standards as of my knowledge. ACPI standard defines a
> > common
> > scheme how to define properties, it doesn't tell anything about
> > property
> > names or any mappings between names to values or names to "OS
> > subsystem").
> 
> There was an attempt a while back to standardize this like we do for 
> device tree, but it fell apart.  Device-specific ACPI-only properties 
> are not standarized.  This driver is initialized only on ACPI
> systems. 
> It has no device tree binding.

It should follow DT *de facto* standard bindings like "ngpios" (though
it's not needed in ACPI case IIRC) and other properties.

> > As for GPIO we just follow *de facto* what DT has right now, i.e.
> > "xxx-
> > gpio" or "xxx-gpios" pattern is used to map ACPI standard resource
> > to a
> > GPIO name. That's how GPIO ACPI lib is being developed.
> 
> GPIOs in device tree are defined completely differently than in ACPI. 
> On DT, the kernel controls the pin muxing.  On ACPI, pins are muxed
> by 
> firmware and never re-muxed by the operating system.  So all this
> driver 
> does is expose a few pins as simple GPIOs.

Wait, runtime muxing is a matter of requesting another function (usually
GPIO) and putting it back afterwards. Do you really need anything like
this at *runtime*?

Pin control design is not compatible with hardware (too abstract), but
that is the problem of DT as well: I'm referring here to not carefully
designed so called "pin states". This is another story and has nothing
specific for ACPI.

-- 
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Intel Finland Oy

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From: andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com (Andy Shevchenko)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 4/4] [v4] pinctrl: qcom: qdf2xxx: add support for new ACPI HID QCOM8002
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 16:36:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1513175798.7000.15.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <88349f2e-5243-8061-cc72-d01fa70e6f2e@codeaurora.org>

On Tue, 2017-12-12 at 14:27 -0600, Timur Tabi wrote:
> On 12/12/2017 05:07 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> 
> > Not ACPI standards as of my knowledge. ACPI standard defines a
> > common
> > scheme how to define properties, it doesn't tell anything about
> > property
> > names or any mappings between names to values or names to "OS
> > subsystem").
> 
> There was an attempt a while back to standardize this like we do for 
> device tree, but it fell apart.  Device-specific ACPI-only properties 
> are not standarized.  This driver is initialized only on ACPI
> systems. 
> It has no device tree binding.

It should follow DT *de facto* standard bindings like "ngpios" (though
it's not needed in ACPI case IIRC) and other properties.

> > As for GPIO we just follow *de facto* what DT has right now, i.e.
> > "xxx-
> > gpio" or "xxx-gpios" pattern is used to map ACPI standard resource
> > to a
> > GPIO name. That's how GPIO ACPI lib is being developed.
> 
> GPIOs in device tree are defined completely differently than in ACPI. 
> On DT, the kernel controls the pin muxing.  On ACPI, pins are muxed
> by 
> firmware and never re-muxed by the operating system.  So all this
> driver 
> does is expose a few pins as simple GPIOs.

Wait, runtime muxing is a matter of requesting another function (usually
GPIO) and putting it back afterwards. Do you really need anything like
this at *runtime*?

Pin control design is not compatible with hardware (too abstract), but
that is the problem of DT as well: I'm referring here to not carefully
designed so called "pin states". This is another story and has nothing
specific for ACPI.

-- 
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Intel Finland Oy

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-13 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-01 23:28 [PATCH 0/4] [v8] pinctrl: qcom: add support for sparse GPIOs Timur Tabi
2017-12-01 23:28 ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-01 23:28 ` [PATCH 1/4] [v2] Revert "gpio: set up initial state from .get_direction()" Timur Tabi
2017-12-01 23:28   ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-01 23:28 ` [PATCH 2/4] [v2] gpiolib: add bitmask for valid GPIO lines Timur Tabi
2017-12-01 23:28   ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-12  9:58   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-12-12  9:58     ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-12-12 20:16     ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-12 20:16       ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-01 23:28 ` [PATCH 3/4] [v7] pinctrl: qcom: disable GPIO groups with no pins Timur Tabi
2017-12-01 23:28   ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-01 23:28 ` [PATCH 4/4] [v4] pinctrl: qcom: qdf2xxx: add support for new ACPI HID QCOM8002 Timur Tabi
2017-12-01 23:28   ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-12 10:05   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-12-12 10:05     ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-12-12 20:17     ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-12 20:17       ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-13 14:32       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-12-13 14:32         ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-12-13 14:46         ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-13 14:46           ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-13 15:18           ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-13 15:18             ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-13 15:40             ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-12-13 15:40               ` Andy Shevchenko
     [not found]   ` <1512170904-4749-5-git-send-email-timur-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-12 10:42     ` Linus Walleij
2017-12-12 10:42       ` Linus Walleij
2017-12-12 11:07       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-12-12 11:07         ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-12-12 20:27         ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-12 20:27           ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-13 14:36           ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2017-12-13 14:36             ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-12-13 14:47             ` Timur Tabi
2017-12-13 14:47               ` Timur Tabi

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