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From: Walter Wu <walter-zh.wu@mediatek.com>
To: Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	wsd_upstream <wsd_upstream@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kasan: fix the missing underflow in memmove and memcpy with CONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC=y
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 19:02:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1570532528.4686.102.camel@mtksdccf07> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B53A3CC0-CEA6-4E1C-BC38-19315D949F38@lca.pw>

On Tue, 2019-10-08 at 05:47 -0400, Qian Cai wrote:
> 
> > On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:16 AM, Walter Wu <walter-zh.wu@mediatek.com> wrote:
> > 
> > It is an undefined behavior to pass a negative numbers to
> >    memset()/memcpy()/memmove(), so need to be detected by KASAN.
> 
> Why can’t this be detected by UBSAN?

I don't know very well in UBSAN, but I try to build ubsan kernel and
test a negative number in memset and kmalloc_memmove_invalid_size(), it
look like no check.


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Walter Wu <walter-zh.wu@mediatek.com>
To: Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	wsd_upstream <wsd_upstream@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kasan: fix the missing underflow in memmove and memcpy with CONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC=y
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 19:02:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1570532528.4686.102.camel@mtksdccf07> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B53A3CC0-CEA6-4E1C-BC38-19315D949F38@lca.pw>

On Tue, 2019-10-08 at 05:47 -0400, Qian Cai wrote:
> 
> > On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:16 AM, Walter Wu <walter-zh.wu@mediatek.com> wrote:
> > 
> > It is an undefined behavior to pass a negative numbers to
> >    memset()/memcpy()/memmove(), so need to be detected by KASAN.
> 
> Why can’t this be detected by UBSAN?

I don't know very well in UBSAN, but I try to build ubsan kernel and
test a negative number in memset and kmalloc_memmove_invalid_size(), it
look like no check.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Walter Wu <walter-zh.wu@mediatek.com>
To: Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>
Cc: wsd_upstream <wsd_upstream@mediatek.com>,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kasan: fix the missing underflow in memmove and memcpy with CONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC=y
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 19:02:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1570532528.4686.102.camel@mtksdccf07> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B53A3CC0-CEA6-4E1C-BC38-19315D949F38@lca.pw>

On Tue, 2019-10-08 at 05:47 -0400, Qian Cai wrote:
> 
> > On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:16 AM, Walter Wu <walter-zh.wu@mediatek.com> wrote:
> > 
> > It is an undefined behavior to pass a negative numbers to
> >    memset()/memcpy()/memmove(), so need to be detected by KASAN.
> 
> Why can’t this be detected by UBSAN?

I don't know very well in UBSAN, but I try to build ubsan kernel and
test a negative number in memset and kmalloc_memmove_invalid_size(), it
look like no check.


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Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-27  3:43 [PATCH] kasan: fix the missing underflow in memmove and memcpy with CONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC=y Walter Wu
2019-09-27  3:43 ` Walter Wu
2019-09-27  3:43 ` Walter Wu
2019-09-27 13:07 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-09-27 13:07   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-09-27 13:07   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-09-27 14:22   ` Walter Wu
2019-09-27 14:22     ` Walter Wu
2019-09-27 14:22     ` Walter Wu
2019-09-27 19:41     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-09-27 19:41       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-09-27 19:41       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-09-30  4:36       ` Walter Wu
2019-09-30  4:36         ` Walter Wu
2019-09-30  8:57         ` Marc Gonzalez
2019-09-30  8:57           ` Marc Gonzalez
2019-10-01  2:36           ` Walter Wu
2019-10-01  2:36             ` Walter Wu
2019-10-01  3:01             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-01  3:01               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-01  3:18               ` Walter Wu
2019-10-01  3:18                 ` Walter Wu
2019-10-02 12:15         ` Walter Wu
2019-10-02 12:15           ` Walter Wu
2019-10-02 12:15           ` Walter Wu
2019-10-02 13:57           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-02 13:57             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-02 13:57             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-03  2:17             ` Walter Wu
2019-10-03  2:17               ` Walter Wu
2019-10-03  6:26               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-03  6:26                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-03  6:26                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-03  9:38                 ` Walter Wu
2019-10-03  9:38                   ` Walter Wu
2019-10-03  9:38                   ` Walter Wu
2019-10-03 13:51                   ` Walter Wu
2019-10-03 13:51                     ` Walter Wu
2019-10-03 13:51                     ` Walter Wu
2019-10-03 14:53                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-03 14:53                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-03 14:53                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-04  4:42                       ` Walter Wu
2019-10-04  4:42                         ` Walter Wu
2019-10-04  4:42                         ` Walter Wu
2019-10-04  8:02                         ` Walter Wu
2019-10-04  8:02                           ` Walter Wu
2019-10-04  8:02                           ` Walter Wu
2019-10-04  9:18                           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-04  9:18                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-04  9:18                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-04  9:44                             ` Walter Wu
2019-10-04  9:44                               ` Walter Wu
2019-10-04  9:44                               ` Walter Wu
2019-10-04  9:54                               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-04  9:54                                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-04  9:54                                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-04  9:54                                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-04 12:05                                 ` Walter Wu
2019-10-04 12:05                                   ` Walter Wu
2019-10-04 12:05                                   ` Walter Wu
2019-10-04 13:52                                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-04 13:52                                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-04 13:52                                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  3:22                                     ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  3:22                                       ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  3:22                                       ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  7:29                                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  7:29                                         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  7:29                                         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  8:18                                         ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  8:18                                           ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  8:18                                           ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  8:24                                           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  8:24                                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  8:24                                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  8:24                                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  8:51                                             ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  8:51                                               ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  8:51                                               ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  8:54                                               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  8:54                                                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  8:54                                                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  9:03                                                 ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  9:03                                                   ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  9:03                                                   ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  9:10                                                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  9:10                                                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  9:10                                                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  9:10                                                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07  9:28                                                     ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  9:28                                                       ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  9:28                                                       ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  9:50                                                       ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  9:50                                                         ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07  9:50                                                         ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07 10:51                                                         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07 10:51                                                           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07 10:51                                                           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07 12:03                                                           ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07 12:03                                                             ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07 12:03                                                             ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07 12:19                                                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07 12:19                                                               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07 12:19                                                               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07 12:32                                                               ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07 12:32                                                                 ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07 12:32                                                                 ` Walter Wu
2019-10-07 13:33                                                                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07 13:33                                                                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-07 13:33                                                                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-08  6:15                                                                   ` Walter Wu
2019-10-08  6:15                                                                     ` Walter Wu
2019-10-08  6:15                                                                     ` Walter Wu
2019-10-08  9:47                                                                     ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08  9:47                                                                       ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 11:02                                                                       ` Walter Wu [this message]
2019-10-08 11:02                                                                         ` Walter Wu
2019-10-08 11:02                                                                         ` Walter Wu
2019-10-08 11:42                                                                         ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 11:42                                                                           ` Qian Cai
2019-10-08 12:07                                                                           ` Walter Wu
2019-10-08 12:07                                                                             ` Walter Wu
2019-10-08 12:07                                                                             ` Walter Wu
2019-10-08 12:11                                                                           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-08 12:11                                                                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-08 12:11                                                                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-08 12:11                                                                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-10-14  2:19                                                                             ` Walter Wu
2019-10-14  2:19                                                                               ` Walter Wu
2019-10-14  2:19                                                                               ` Walter Wu

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