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From: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: "Song Liu" <songliubraving@fb.com>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <kafai@fb.com>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Yonghong Song" <yhs@fb.com>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"dust.li" <dust.li@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Jonathan Lemon" <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
	"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Magnus Karlsson" <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 12/15] virtio-net: support AF_XDP zc tx
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:57:45 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1623848265.175296-1-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f81775f8-7df9-5ca0-0bd2-99c86786fe78@redhat.com>

On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:51:41 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> 在 2021/6/16 下午6:19, Xuan Zhuo 写道:
> >>> + * In this way, even if xsk has been unbundled with rq/sq, or a new xsk and
> >>> + * rq/sq  are bound, and a new virtnet_xsk_ctx_head is created. It will not
> >>> + * affect the old virtnet_xsk_ctx to be recycled. And free all head and ctx when
> >>> + * ref is 0.
> >> This looks complicated and it will increase the footprint. Consider the
> >> performance penalty and the complexity, I would suggest to use reset
> >> instead.
> >>
> >> Then we don't need to introduce such context.
> > I don't like this either. It is best if we can reset the queue, but then,
> > according to my understanding, the backend should also be supported
> > synchronously, so if you don't update the backend synchronously, you can't use
> > xsk.
>
>
> Yes, actually, vhost-net support per vq suspending. The problem is that
> we're lacking a proper API at virtio level.
>
> Virtio-pci has queue_enable but it forbids writing zero to that.
>
>
> >
> > I don’t think resetting the entire dev is a good solution. If you want to bind
> > xsk to 10 queues, you may have to reset the entire device 10 times. I don’t
> > think this is a good way. But the current spec does not support reset single
> > queue, so I chose the current solution.
> >
> > Jason, what do you think we are going to do? Realize the reset function of a
> > single queue?
>
>
> Yes, it's the best way. Do you want to work on that?

Of course, I am very willing to continue this work. Although users must upgrade
the backend to use virtio-net + xsk in the future, this makes the situation a
bit troublesome.

I will complete the kernel modification as soon as possible, but I am not
familiar with the process of submitting the spec patch. Can you give me some
guidance and where should I send the spec patch.

Thanks.

>
> We can start from the spec patch, and introduce it as basic facility and
> implement it in the PCI transport first.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> >
> > Looking forward to your reply!!!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-16 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-10  8:21 [PATCH net-next v5 00/15] virtio-net: support xdp socket zero copy Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:21 ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:21 ` [PATCH net-next v5 01/15] netdevice: priv_flags extend to 64bit Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:21   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:21 ` [PATCH net-next v5 02/15] netdevice: add priv_flags IFF_NOT_USE_DMA_ADDR Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:21   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:21 ` [PATCH net-next v5 03/15] virtio-net: " Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:21   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-16  9:27   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16  9:27     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16 10:27     ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:21 ` [PATCH net-next v5 04/15] xsk: XDP_SETUP_XSK_POOL support option IFF_NOT_USE_DMA_ADDR Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:21   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:21 ` [PATCH net-next v5 05/15] virtio: support virtqueue_detach_unused_buf_ctx Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:21   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-17  2:48   ` kernel test robot
2021-06-17  2:48     ` kernel test robot
2021-06-10  8:22 ` [PATCH net-next v5 06/15] virtio-net: unify the code for recycling the xmit ptr Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-16  2:42   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16  2:42     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-10  8:22 ` [PATCH net-next v5 07/15] virtio-net: standalone virtnet_aloc_frag function Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-16  2:45   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16  2:45     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-10  8:22 ` [PATCH net-next v5 08/15] virtio-net: split the receive_mergeable function Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-16  7:33   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16  7:33     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16  7:52     ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:22 ` [PATCH net-next v5 09/15] virtio-net: virtnet_poll_tx support budget check Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:22 ` [PATCH net-next v5 10/15] virtio-net: independent directory Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-16  7:34   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16  7:34     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-10  8:22 ` [PATCH net-next v5 11/15] virtio-net: move to virtio_net.h Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-16  7:35   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16  7:35     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-10  8:22 ` [PATCH net-next v5 12/15] virtio-net: support AF_XDP zc tx Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-16  9:26   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16  9:26     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16 10:10     ` Magnus Karlsson
2021-06-16 10:19     ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-16 12:51       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16 12:51         ` Jason Wang
2021-06-16 12:57         ` Xuan Zhuo [this message]
2021-06-17  2:36           ` Jason Wang
2021-06-17  2:36             ` Jason Wang
2021-06-10  8:22 ` [PATCH net-next v5 13/15] virtio-net: support AF_XDP zc rx Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-17  2:48   ` kernel test robot
2021-06-17  2:48     ` kernel test robot
2021-06-17  3:23   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-17  3:23     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-17  5:53     ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-17  6:03       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-17  6:03         ` Jason Wang
2021-06-17  6:37         ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-17  6:58           ` Jason Wang
2021-06-17  6:58             ` Jason Wang
2021-06-21  3:26   ` kernel test robot
2021-06-21  3:26     ` kernel test robot
2021-06-10  8:22 ` [PATCH net-next v5 14/15] virtio-net: xsk direct xmit inside xsk wakeup Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-17  3:07   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-17  3:07     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-17  5:55     ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-17  6:01       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-17  6:01         ` Jason Wang
2021-06-10  8:22 ` [PATCH net-next v5 15/15] virtio-net: xsk zero copy xmit kick by threshold Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-10  8:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-17  3:08   ` Jason Wang
2021-06-17  3:08     ` Jason Wang
2021-06-17  5:56     ` Xuan Zhuo
2021-06-17  6:00       ` Jason Wang
2021-06-17  6:00         ` Jason Wang
2021-06-17  6:43         ` Xuan Zhuo

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