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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:40:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18533.1335447617@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120424212911.GA26073@fieldses.org>

J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:

> > (11) Include granularity fields in the time data to indicate the
> >      granularity of each of the times (NFSv4 time_delta) [Steve French].
> 
> It looks like you're including this with *each* time?  But surely
> there's no filesystem with different granularity (say) for ctime than
> for mtime.

I put it in each time struct to use up the hole there.  I could, I suppose,
split tv_sec from tv_nsec to get rid of the holes and then put the granularity
separately.  That means that someone who wanted both the tv_sec and tv_nsec
would have to fish them out separately, but that's probably okay.

I could even make the granularity bigger then, to allow for the possibility of
having a granularity >4s, but I don't know of anywhere that requires a gran >2.

> Also, nfsd will want only one time_delta, not one for each time.

time_delta?  Is that the same as granularity?

> Note also we need to document carefully what this means: I think it
> should be the granularity that the filesystem is capable of
> representing, but people are sometimes surprised to find out that the
> actual time source is usually more coarse-grained than that.

Yeah, but the latter is something you may not be able to determine, and may
indeed change over time (say someone updates the server kernel to one with a
more fine-grained software clock).  Also, for a network fs, it may depend on
the client that happened to set that time last.

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-26 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-19 14:05 [PATCH 0/6] Extended file stat system call David Howells
2012-04-19 14:05 ` David Howells
2012-04-19 14:06 ` [PATCH 3/6] xstat: AFS: Return extended attributes David Howells
2012-04-19 14:06 ` [PATCH 4/6] xstat: NFS: " David Howells
     [not found]   ` <20120419140653.17272.95035.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-19 14:35     ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-19 14:35       ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 13:52   ` David Howells
2012-04-19 14:07 ` [PATCH 5/6] xstat: CIFS: " David Howells
     [not found]   ` <20120419140706.17272.72290.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-19 15:19     ` Steve French
2012-04-19 15:19       ` Steve French
2012-04-19 16:32 ` [PATCH 0/6] Extended file stat system call Roland McGrath
2012-04-19 21:51   ` Paul Eggert
2012-04-19 23:05     ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 14:16     ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <20173.1335449760-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 18:22         ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 18:22           ` Roland McGrath
     [not found]   ` <4F9088D6.9020203-764C0pRuGfqVc3sceRu5cw@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 14:04     ` David Howells
2012-04-26 14:04       ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <19638.1335449047-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 18:24         ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 18:24           ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-19 23:29 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-26 13:54 ` David Howells
     [not found]   ` <19184.1335448455-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 18:25     ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 18:25       ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-27 23:54       ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]   ` <20120426182524.E5ADF2C0EC-j1d2VQoJOwwHfwO+Tb3JRVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 21:54     ` David Howells
2012-04-26 21:54       ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <9931.1335477281-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 22:02         ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 22:02           ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 22:21           ` Nix
2012-04-26 14:25 ` David Howells
2012-04-26 14:54   ` Steve French
     [not found]     ` <CAH2r5mv1Lijdwk5zsQwYJr4Etb6fhrRyNXm-iFCQX+HecboGrQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 15:25       ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 15:25         ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 16:56         ` Steve French
2012-04-26 16:56           ` Steve French
     [not found]           ` <CAH2r5mt5af-_hxBRKK72iD5Gr99bo91ec78Rov8EGVEx8=21mA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 17:00             ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 17:00               ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 17:03               ` Steve French
2012-04-26 17:03                 ` Steve French
     [not found]                 ` <CAH2r5mvmCfLrxRHje6Wx5X84zxPEHwRMUJGsjvWBujMu7w841w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 17:06                   ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 17:06                     ` Myklebust, Trond
     [not found]                     ` <1335460011.9701.30.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 17:09                       ` Steve French
2012-04-26 17:09                         ` Steve French
     [not found]                         ` <CAH2r5muXk+frkFz9X523Ny=RMwJGeqOPH75G1ToNa5QoMo5SkQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 17:10                           ` Steve French
2012-04-26 17:10                             ` Steve French
2012-04-26 21:57                       ` David Howells
2012-04-26 21:57                         ` David Howells
     [not found]                         ` <10104.1335477476-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 22:05                           ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 22:05                             ` Roland McGrath
     [not found]                             ` <20120426220552.D98D62C0D3-j1d2VQoJOwwHfwO+Tb3JRVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-27  0:33                               ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-27  0:33                                 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-27  0:30                           ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-27  0:30                             ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 15:52   ` David Howells
2012-04-27  0:29     ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-27  0:29       ` Andreas Dilger
     [not found]     ` <3F302713-B675-4BAA-B2B7-235E03C5975F-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-27  9:19       ` David Howells
2012-04-27  9:19         ` David Howells
     [not found] ` <20120419140558.17272.74360.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-19 14:06   ` [PATCH 1/6] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available David Howells
2012-04-19 14:06     ` David Howells
2012-04-19 23:36     ` Andreas Dilger
     [not found]     ` <20120419140612.17272.57774.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 21:29       ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-24 21:29         ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]         ` <20120424212911.GA26073-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 22:08           ` Steve French
2012-04-24 22:08             ` Steve French
2012-04-25 14:44           ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-25 14:44             ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-26 13:45         ` David Howells
     [not found]           ` <18765.1335447954-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 14:28             ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-26 14:28               ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-26 17:06               ` Steve French
2012-04-26 17:06                 ` Steve French
2012-04-26 13:32     ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <18195.1335447156-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-27  0:51         ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27  0:51           ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27  3:11           ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-27  3:11             ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-26 13:40     ` David Howells [this message]
     [not found]       ` <18533.1335447617-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 14:23         ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-26 14:23           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-30 16:27       ` Ben Hutchings
2012-04-30 20:15         ` David Howells
2012-04-30 20:30           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-30 23:31             ` Ben Hutchings
2012-04-19 14:06   ` [PATCH 2/6] xstat: Ext4: Return extended attributes David Howells
2012-04-19 14:06     ` David Howells
     [not found]     ` <20120419140625.17272.23303.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-19 16:03       ` Steve French
2012-04-19 16:03         ` Steve French
2012-04-26 13:47     ` David Howells
2012-04-26 17:00       ` Steve French
2012-04-26 17:00         ` Steve French
2012-04-19 14:07   ` [PATCH 6/6] xstat: eCryptFS: " David Howells
2012-04-19 14:07     ` David Howells
2012-04-19 17:11   ` [PATCH 0/6] Extended file stat system call Steve French
2012-04-19 17:11     ` Steve French
2012-04-27  1:06   ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27  1:06     ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27  3:22     ` Andreas Dilger
     [not found]       ` <ED5B8F1B-6C99-4516-85FA-A767E94B635F-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-28  0:38         ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-28  0:38           ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-28  0:54           ` Steve French
2012-05-08 20:19   ` Extended file stat: Splitting file- and fs-specific info? David Howells
2012-05-08 20:19     ` David Howells
2012-05-08 21:13     ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-05-08 21:13       ` Myklebust, Trond
     [not found]     ` <16281.1336508382-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09  0:24       ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-09  0:24         ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-09  1:09         ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-09  1:09           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-09  4:25           ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-09 11:14             ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-09 11:14               ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-09  1:16         ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-09  1:16           ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-10  9:23         ` David Howells
     [not found]           ` <14477.1336641794-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-10 16:05             ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-10 16:05               ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-10 17:10             ` Roland McGrath
2012-05-10 17:10               ` Roland McGrath
2012-05-11  8:54               ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-09  9:21     ` David Howells
2012-05-09  9:21       ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <20170.1336555274-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09 11:19         ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-05-09 11:19           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]           ` <20120509111958.GA11345-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09 11:55             ` Bernd Schubert
2012-05-09 11:55               ` Bernd Schubert
     [not found]               ` <4FAA5B24.1020306-mPn0NPGs4xGatNDF+KUbs4QuADTiUCJX@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09 12:05                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-05-09 12:05                   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                   ` <20120509120544.GA17535-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-09 12:25                     ` Bernd Schubert
2012-05-09 12:25                       ` Bernd Schubert
2012-05-09 13:51                       ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-09 14:12                         ` Bernd Schubert
2012-05-10  9:14     ` David Howells
2012-05-10  9:14       ` David Howells
2012-04-27  9:39 ` [PATCH 0/6] Extended file stat system call David Howells
     [not found]   ` <4111.1335519545-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-27 13:13     ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27 13:13       ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27 15:10       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]         ` <20120427151057.GA16580-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-27 16:32           ` Steve French
2012-04-27 16:32             ` Steve French
2012-04-27 19:31       ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-28  0:58         ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-10  9:51         ` David Howells

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