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From: "Madhavan T. Venkataraman" <madvenka@linux.microsoft.com>
To: "nobuta.keiya@fujitsu.com" <nobuta.keiya@fujitsu.com>,
	"mark.rutland@arm.com" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"broonie@kernel.org" <broonie@kernel.org>,
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	"catalin.marinas@arm.com" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 11/11] arm64: Select HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 11:14:10 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a0e19db-a7f8-4c8e-0163-398fcd364d54@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <TY2PR01MB5257BE671A481D81F1A40E0185209@TY2PR01MB5257.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com>



On 1/26/22 04:20, nobuta.keiya@fujitsu.com wrote:
>> I have not seen any activity on that in a long time. IIRC, Julien quit RedHat.
>> I don't know if anyone else has taken over this work in RedHat.
>>
>> Sorry, I don't have any more information.
>>
>> Madhavan
> 
> Thanks for your information.
> 
> By the way, I'm considering test code for arch_stack_walk_reliable().
> Specifically, I apply Suraj's patch to enable livepatch, and added a function
> that sleeps between SYM_CODE_START and SYM_CODE_END, then livepatch
> checks if the task has an unreliable stack.
> For now my internal test code working correctly, but my Kconfig excludes
> STACK_VALIDATION dependency.
> 
> It seems that objtool will not be enabled yet, so I would like to test it easier.
> If you are already testing with this patch, could you tell me how to do it?
> 
> 

For now, I have an instrumented kernel that directly invokes arch_stack_walk_reliable()
from various places in the kernel (interrupt handlers, exception handlers, ftrace entry,
kprobe handler, etc). I also have a test driver to induce conditions like null pointer
dereference. I use this to test different cases where arch_stack_walk_reliable() should
return an error.

As for livepatch testing, I have enhanced objtool and the kernel so the frame pointer can
be validated dynamically rather than statically. I have tested various different livepatch
selftests successfully. I have also written my own livepatch tests to add to the selftests.
I am currently working on preparing an RFC patch series for review. Basically, this series
implements STACK_VALIDATION in a different way.

I plan to publish my work soon (hopefully Feb 2022). I was going to do in December. However,
my workload in Microsoft did not permit me to do that. I am also planning to set up a github
repo so people can try out my changes, if they are interested.

So, stay tuned.

Madhavan

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From: "Madhavan T. Venkataraman" <madvenka@linux.microsoft.com>
To: "nobuta.keiya@fujitsu.com" <nobuta.keiya@fujitsu.com>,
	"mark.rutland@arm.com" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"broonie@kernel.org" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"jpoimboe@redhat.com" <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	"ardb@kernel.org" <ardb@kernel.org>,
	"sjitindarsingh@gmail.com" <sjitindarsingh@gmail.com>,
	"catalin.marinas@arm.com" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"jmorris@namei.org" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"live-patching@vger.kernel.org" <live-patching@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 11/11] arm64: Select HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 11:14:10 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a0e19db-a7f8-4c8e-0163-398fcd364d54@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <TY2PR01MB5257BE671A481D81F1A40E0185209@TY2PR01MB5257.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com>



On 1/26/22 04:20, nobuta.keiya@fujitsu.com wrote:
>> I have not seen any activity on that in a long time. IIRC, Julien quit RedHat.
>> I don't know if anyone else has taken over this work in RedHat.
>>
>> Sorry, I don't have any more information.
>>
>> Madhavan
> 
> Thanks for your information.
> 
> By the way, I'm considering test code for arch_stack_walk_reliable().
> Specifically, I apply Suraj's patch to enable livepatch, and added a function
> that sleeps between SYM_CODE_START and SYM_CODE_END, then livepatch
> checks if the task has an unreliable stack.
> For now my internal test code working correctly, but my Kconfig excludes
> STACK_VALIDATION dependency.
> 
> It seems that objtool will not be enabled yet, so I would like to test it easier.
> If you are already testing with this patch, could you tell me how to do it?
> 
> 

For now, I have an instrumented kernel that directly invokes arch_stack_walk_reliable()
from various places in the kernel (interrupt handlers, exception handlers, ftrace entry,
kprobe handler, etc). I also have a test driver to induce conditions like null pointer
dereference. I use this to test different cases where arch_stack_walk_reliable() should
return an error.

As for livepatch testing, I have enhanced objtool and the kernel so the frame pointer can
be validated dynamically rather than statically. I have tested various different livepatch
selftests successfully. I have also written my own livepatch tests to add to the selftests.
I am currently working on preparing an RFC patch series for review. Basically, this series
implements STACK_VALIDATION in a different way.

I plan to publish my work soon (hopefully Feb 2022). I was going to do in December. However,
my workload in Microsoft did not permit me to do that. I am also planning to set up a github
repo so people can try out my changes, if they are interested.

So, stay tuned.

Madhavan

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Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <95691cae4f4504f33d0fc9075541b1e7deefe96f>
2022-01-17 14:55 ` [PATCH v13 00/11] arm64: Reorganize the unwinder and implement stack trace reliability checks madvenka
2022-01-17 14:55   ` madvenka
2022-01-17 14:55   ` [PATCH v13 01/11] arm64: Remove NULL task check from unwind_frame() madvenka
2022-01-17 14:55     ` madvenka
2022-01-17 14:55   ` [PATCH v13 02/11] arm64: Rename unwinder functions madvenka
2022-01-17 14:55     ` madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56   ` [PATCH v13 03/11] arm64: Rename stackframe to unwind_state madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56     ` madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56   ` [PATCH v13 04/11] arm64: Split unwind_init() madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56     ` madvenka
2022-02-02 18:44     ` Mark Brown
2022-02-02 18:44       ` Mark Brown
2022-02-03  0:26       ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-02-03  0:26         ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-02-03  0:39         ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-02-03  0:39           ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-02-03 11:29           ` Mark Brown
2022-02-03 11:29             ` Mark Brown
2022-02-15 13:07     ` Mark Rutland
2022-02-15 13:07       ` Mark Rutland
2022-02-15 18:04       ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-02-15 18:04         ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-01-17 14:56   ` [PATCH v13 05/11] arm64: Copy the task argument to unwind_state madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56     ` madvenka
2022-02-02 18:45     ` Mark Brown
2022-02-02 18:45       ` Mark Brown
2022-02-15 13:22     ` Mark Rutland
2022-02-15 13:22       ` Mark Rutland
2022-02-22 16:53       ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-02-22 16:53         ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-01-17 14:56   ` [PATCH v13 06/11] arm64: Use stack_trace_consume_fn and rename args to unwind() madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56     ` madvenka
2022-02-02 18:46     ` Mark Brown
2022-02-02 18:46       ` Mark Brown
2022-02-03  0:34       ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-02-03  0:34         ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-02-03 11:30         ` Mark Brown
2022-02-03 11:30           ` Mark Brown
2022-02-03 14:45           ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-02-03 14:45             ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-02-15 13:39     ` Mark Rutland
2022-02-15 13:39       ` Mark Rutland
2022-02-15 18:12       ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-02-15 18:12         ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-03-07 16:51       ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-03-07 16:51         ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-03-07 17:01         ` Mark Brown
2022-03-07 17:01           ` Mark Brown
2022-03-08 22:00           ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-03-08 22:00             ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-03-09 11:47             ` Mark Brown
2022-03-09 11:47               ` Mark Brown
2022-03-09 15:34               ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-03-09 15:34                 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-03-10  8:33               ` Miroslav Benes
2022-03-10  8:33                 ` Miroslav Benes
2022-03-10 12:36                 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-03-10 12:36                   ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-03-16  3:43               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-03-16  3:43                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-08 14:44         ` Mark Rutland
2022-04-08 14:44           ` Mark Rutland
2022-04-08 17:58           ` Mark Rutland
2022-04-08 17:58             ` Mark Rutland
2022-04-10 17:42             ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-10 17:42               ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-10 17:33           ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-10 17:33             ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-10 17:45           ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-10 17:45             ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-01-17 14:56   ` [PATCH v13 07/11] arm64: Make the unwind loop in unwind() similar to other architectures madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56     ` madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56   ` [PATCH v13 08/11] arm64: Introduce stack trace reliability checks in the unwinder madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56     ` madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56   ` [PATCH v13 09/11] arm64: Create a list of SYM_CODE functions, check return PC against list madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56     ` madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56   ` [PATCH v13 10/11] arm64: Introduce arch_stack_walk_reliable() madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56     ` madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56   ` [PATCH v13 11/11] arm64: Select HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE madvenka
2022-01-17 14:56     ` madvenka
2022-01-25  5:21     ` nobuta.keiya
2022-01-25  5:21       ` nobuta.keiya
2022-01-25 13:43       ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-01-25 13:43         ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-01-26 10:20         ` nobuta.keiya
2022-01-26 10:20           ` nobuta.keiya
2022-01-26 17:14           ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman [this message]
2022-01-26 17:14             ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-01-27  1:13             ` nobuta.keiya
2022-01-27  1:13               ` nobuta.keiya
2022-01-26 17:16       ` Mark Brown
2022-01-26 17:16         ` Mark Brown
2022-04-07 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/9] arm64: livepatch: Use DWARF Call Frame Information for frame pointer validation madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25   ` madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25   ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/9] objtool: Parse DWARF Call Frame Information in object files madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25     ` madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25   ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/9] objtool: Generate DWARF rules and place them in a special section madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25     ` madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25   ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/9] dwarf: Build the kernel with DWARF information madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25     ` madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25   ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/9] dwarf: Implement DWARF rule processing in the kernel madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25     ` madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25   ` [RFC PATCH v1 5/9] dwarf: Implement DWARF support for modules madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25     ` madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25   ` [RFC PATCH v1 6/9] arm64: unwinder: Add a reliability check in the unwinder based on DWARF CFI madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25     ` madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25   ` [RFC PATCH v1 7/9] arm64: dwarf: Implement unwind hints madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25     ` madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25   ` [RFC PATCH v1 8/9] dwarf: Miscellaneous changes required for enabling livepatch madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25     ` madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25   ` [RFC PATCH v1 9/9] dwarf: Enable livepatch for ARM64 madvenka
2022-04-07 20:25     ` madvenka
2022-04-08  0:21   ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/9] arm64: livepatch: Use DWARF Call Frame Information for frame pointer validation Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-08  0:21     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-08 11:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-08 11:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-11 17:26       ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-11 17:26         ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-11 17:18     ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-11 17:18       ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-12  8:32       ` Chen Zhongjin
2022-04-12  8:32         ` Chen Zhongjin
2022-04-16  0:56         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-16  0:56           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-18 12:28           ` Chen Zhongjin
2022-04-18 12:28             ` Chen Zhongjin
2022-04-18 16:11             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-18 16:11               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-18 18:38               ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-18 18:38                 ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
     [not found]       ` <844b3ede-eddb-cbe6-80e0-3529e2da2eb6@huawei.com>
2022-04-12 17:27         ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-12 17:27           ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-16  1:07       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-16  1:07         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-14 14:11     ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-14 14:11       ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-08 10:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-08 10:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-08 11:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-08 11:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-08 14:34       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-08 14:34         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-10 17:47     ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-10 17:47       ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-11 16:34       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-11 16:34         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-04-08 12:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-08 12:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-11 17:35     ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman
2022-04-11 17:35       ` Madhavan T. Venkataraman

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