X-management choice

X-management choice

[Heimo Claasen]

I examined the various threads on X window management on the list lately
but could not find and answer on what I'm looking for:

I would like to have a regular choice for starting up X either with
a kind of barebones xterm only, or a more comfortable GUI
("environment") like KDE/Gnome. That is, I want to have a selection
possible with/in "startx" for which of two setups to use for starting X.

I'm not yet there to write bash batches (and wonder if I ever would
get there); but would probably cope with eventual editing of existing
ones. (Installation is Mdk., i.e. rather identical to RH in respect to
the X arrangements.)

REM: X itself ("bare", no whatsoever window manager and thus no means
to do anything with it, always installed well here, even with somewhat
tricky hardware conditions regarding the video card and highres monitor.)

// Heimo Claasen // <hammer at revobild dot net> // Brussels 2002-12-22
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Re: X-management choice

[Ray Olszewski]

Well .. to start with, are you aware that "startx" itself is just a shell 
script, one that usually acts as a from end to xinit, first setting up some 
values for config files. Were I to face your problem, I would probably just 
make a copy of startx ... called startx2 or startx-minimal or whatever ... 
and have it use different config files to set up the default applications 
(including a window manager) to run.

I imagine I'd use the distro's setup help to get the Gnome or KDE version 
working as startx, then do the minimalist one by hand. Or I'd set up the 
minimalist one first, cp the config files to different names, then 
"upgrade" to the Gnome or KDE one.

Sorry to be so vague, but from your message, it is hard to know how much 
you already know about X. If you need more specific advice, please ask for it.

At , Heimo Claasen wrote:
>I examined the various threads on X window management on the list lately
>but could not find and answer on what I'm looking for:
>
>I would like to have a regular choice for starting up X either with
>a kind of barebones xterm only, or a more comfortable GUI
>("environment") like KDE/Gnome. That is, I want to have a selection
>possible with/in "startx" for which of two setups to use for starting X.
>
>I'm not yet there to write bash batches (and wonder if I ever would
>get there); but would probably cope with eventual editing of existing
>ones. (Installation is Mdk., i.e. rather identical to RH in respect to
>the X arrangements.)
>
>REM: X itself ("bare", no whatsoever window manager and thus no means
>to do anything with it, always installed well here, even with somewhat
>tricky hardware conditions regarding the video card and highres monitor.)




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Re: X-management choice

[Peter]

Try from the console:

startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm

Then in xterm you can open anything you want. You want kde, type, startkde&.

You want a bigger xterm use the -geometry flag.

Regards
-- 
Peter



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Re: X-management choice

[Heimo Claasen]

What Peter wrote,

> startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
> Then in xterm you can open anything you want. You want kde, type, startkde&.

which is rather similar to what I found out by trial (and a lot of errors).
I'm just using
---:#> xinit
as this is enough to start the X server and it opens one xterm.
From there, it's just to launch an application or in addition some
(elementary) window manager (like "twm") to be able to at least move
(though not yet resize) the windows opened by some app.

BTW, Lawson - Ray would get a bit picky as it isn't ".Xinit" either, ;,)

// Heimo Claasen // <hammer at revobild dot net> // Brussels 2002-12-25
The WebPlace of ReRead - and much to read  ==>  http://www.revobild.net

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