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From: Ducrot Bruno <ducrot-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Alan Hourihane
	<alanh-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>,
	acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Applications & ACPI events
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:27:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031008102745.GF11391@poupinou.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031006130533.GA311-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 03:05:34PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > > > When using ACPI to shutdown the machine to disk or memory, obviously an
> > > > > application can read events from /proc/acpi/events to see what to do.
> > > > > 
> > > > > How does ACPI in the kernel wait for applications to do what they
> > > > > need to when receiving an ACPI event, as it seems the kernel shuts down
> > > > > everything pretty quickly ?
> > > > 
> > > > AFAIK, there is no support for suspending userspace drivers (like X).
> > > 
> > > Actually X get console switch event, so they should
> > > give control of VGA to the kernel...
> > 
> > Exactly, you have to switch to a console.  That's the problem.
> 
> ???
> 
> Kernel tells X to switch to console; there's interface to say that,
> and we are using it. It should just work.

X know more exactly what it have to do to save current states of
the video chipset, or even know when to put the video chipset
in suspend mode.  The nv driver (for example) have to reset the
whole xvideo stuff just because it do not work anymore after a
suspend/resume, but this reset is not necessary for just
switching to console.  2D/3D acceleration in general also need
more works after a suspend/resume which is not necessary
for just switching to console.
All of that console switching work only on intel like archs.

-- 
Ducrot Bruno

--  Which is worse:  ignorance or apathy?
--  Don't know.  Don't care.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-10-08 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-30 16:59 Applications & ACPI events Alan Hourihane
     [not found] ` <20030930165926.GH1921-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-09-30 17:36   ` Ducrot Bruno
     [not found]     ` <20030930173646.GF11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-03 19:38       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]         ` <20031003193814.GE205-u08AdweFZfgxtPtxi4kahqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-06 12:49           ` Ducrot Bruno
     [not found]             ` <20031006124935.GQ11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-06 13:05               ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                 ` <20031006130533.GA311-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 10:27                   ` Ducrot Bruno [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <20031008102745.GF11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 19:16                       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                         ` <20031008191610.GB1035-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 21:53                           ` Alan Hourihane
     [not found]                             ` <20031008215342.GE1920-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-08 21:58                               ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                 ` <20031008215850.GF1238-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 12:36                                   ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                     ` <20031009123620.GD13739-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 21:32                                       ` Applications & ACPI eventse Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                         ` <20031009213245.GB365-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 23:56                                           ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                             ` <20031009235607.GA13514-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10  7:12                                               ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                 ` <20031010071231.GA285-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 11:19                                                   ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                                     ` <20031010111934.GA10620-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 12:37                                                       ` Bas Mevissen
     [not found]                                                         ` <3F86A7F7.6090406-Y9IUUvl1dgU0Iwp8Nzs06g@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 13:17                                                           ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                                             ` <20031010131739.GA24389-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-10 13:57                                                               ` Bas Mevissen
2003-10-10  7:43                                               ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-09 14:06                                   ` Applications & ACPI events Alan Hourihane
     [not found]                                     ` <20031009140648.GH1922-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-09 21:35                                       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                         ` <20031009213504.GC365-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 13:10                                           ` Ducrot Bruno
     [not found]                                             ` <20031013131022.GN11391-kk6yZipjEM5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 13:38                                               ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                                 ` <20031013133837.GA9178-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 15:28                                                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                     ` <20031013152807.GD15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 16:14                                                       ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                                         ` <20031013161445.GA32511-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 16:19                                                           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                             ` <20031013161937.GF15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 17:01                                                               ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20031013170119.GB18363-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 17:05                                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-13 17:09                                                   ` Patrick Mochel
     [not found]                                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310130958540.17450-100000-L1xM/EEGAB4@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 17:17                                                       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                         ` <20031013171704.GH15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 18:59                                                           ` Karol Kozimor
     [not found]                                                             ` <20031013185914.GB1958-DETuoxkZsSqrDJvtcaxF/A@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 19:08                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-14 23:04                                                           ` Patrick Mochel
     [not found]                                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310141556320.803-100000-L1xM/EEGAB4@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-14 23:45                                                               ` Alan Hourihane
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20031014234538.GD1918-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-14 23:55                                                                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20031014235550.GE20789-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15  0:01                                                                       ` Karol Kozimor
2003-10-15 16:20                                                                   ` Patrick Mochel
     [not found]                                                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310150907450.953-100000-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 17:07                                                                       ` Alan Hourihane
2003-10-14 23:52                                                               ` Hardware state saving & X Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20031014235240.GD20789-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 16:32                                                                   ` Patrick Mochel
     [not found]                                                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310150924400.953-100000-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 19:13                                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-16  0:10                                                                       ` Alan Hourihane
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20031016001001.GH1921-ASBjxr/nLg+TY6FTCsQk+9Bc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-16 15:38                                                                           ` Patrick Mochel
2003-10-13 15:26                                               ` Applications & ACPI events Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                 ` <20031013152637.GC15441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-13 16:21                                                   ` Ducrot Bruno
2003-10-15 17:01 Grover, Andrew
     [not found] ` <F760B14C9561B941B89469F59BA3A8470255EF4E-sBd4vmA9Se4Lll3ZsUKC9FDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2003-10-15 16:59   ` Patrick Mochel

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