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* [patch] Repacker stats
@ 2004-10-20 19:59 Piotr Neuman
  2004-10-22 17:38 ` Spam
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Piotr Neuman @ 2004-10-20 19:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: reiserfs-list; +Cc: Alex Zarochentsev

Hi

This is my second attempt at repacker statistics, this time based on comments 
from Alex Zarochentsev (thanks ;-).

This patch allows reading of repacker stats while it is working. It creates 
two files in repacker sysfs hierarchy: formatted_nodes and unformatted_nodes, 
which correspond to the stats that repacker prints after it has finished.

Download:

http://kem.p.lodz.pl/~peter/reiser4_repacker_stats-2.patch

Regards

Piotr Neuman

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* Re: [patch] Repacker stats
  2004-10-20 19:59 [patch] Repacker stats Piotr Neuman
@ 2004-10-22 17:38 ` Spam
  2004-10-23  8:33   ` Christian Mayrhuber
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Spam @ 2004-10-22 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: reiserfs-list


  Hello,

  I was interested in testing the repacker statistics tool that Piotr
  Neuman wrote (and others later added to). But from what I can see
  the repacker is disabled in 2.6.9-rc4-mm1, because of this patch:

     http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.9-rc4/2.6.9-rc4-mm1/broken-out/reiser4-disable-repacker.patch

  Is there something wrong with the repacker that is has to be
  disabled?

  ~S
  
> Hi

> This is my second attempt at repacker statistics, this time based on comments
> from Alex Zarochentsev (thanks ;-).

> This patch allows reading of repacker stats while it is working. It creates
> two files in repacker sysfs hierarchy: formatted_nodes and unformatted_nodes,
> which correspond to the stats that repacker prints after it has finished.

> Download:

> http://kem.p.lodz.pl/~peter/reiser4_repacker_stats-2.patch

> Regards

> Piotr Neuman
´

-- 


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* Re: [patch] Repacker stats
  2004-10-22 17:38 ` Spam
@ 2004-10-23  8:33   ` Christian Mayrhuber
  2004-10-23 16:25     ` Hans Reiser
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Christian Mayrhuber @ 2004-10-23  8:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: reiserfs-list

On Friday 22 October 2004 19:38, Spam wrote:
> 
>   Hello,
> 
>   I was interested in testing the repacker statistics tool that Piotr
>   Neuman wrote (and others later added to). But from what I can see
>   the repacker is disabled in 2.6.9-rc4-mm1, because of this patch:
> 
>      
http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.9-rc4/2.6.9-rc4-mm1/broken-out/reiser4-disable-repacker.patch
> 
>   Is there something wrong with the repacker that is has to be
>   disabled?
> 
>   ~S
>   
> > Hi
> 
> > This is my second attempt at repacker statistics, this time based on 
comments
> > from Alex Zarochentsev (thanks ;-).
> 
> > This patch allows reading of repacker stats while it is working. It 
creates
> > two files in repacker sysfs hierarchy: formatted_nodes and 
unformatted_nodes,
> > which correspond to the stats that repacker prints after it has finished.
> 
> > Download:
> 
> > http://kem.p.lodz.pl/~peter/reiser4_repacker_stats-2.patch
> 
> > Regards
> 
> > Piotr Neuman
> ´
> 
> -- 
> 

Currently the repacker is known to corrupt the filesystem, that's
why it's disabled, I guess.

-- 
lg, Chris


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* Re: [patch] Repacker stats
  2004-10-23  8:33   ` Christian Mayrhuber
@ 2004-10-23 16:25     ` Hans Reiser
  2004-10-24 12:52       ` Spam
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Hans Reiser @ 2004-10-23 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian Mayrhuber; +Cc: reiserfs-list

Christian Mayrhuber wrote:

>On Friday 22 October 2004 19:38, Spam wrote:
>  
>
>>  Hello,
>>
>>  I was interested in testing the repacker statistics tool that Piotr
>>  Neuman wrote (and others later added to). But from what I can see
>>  the repacker is disabled in 2.6.9-rc4-mm1, because of this patch:
>>
>>     
>>    
>>
>http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.9-rc4/2.6.9-rc4-mm1/broken-out/reiser4-disable-repacker.patch
>  
>
>>  Is there something wrong with the repacker that is has to be
>>  disabled?
>>
>>  ~S
>>  
>>    
>>
>>>Hi
>>>      
>>>
>>>This is my second attempt at repacker statistics, this time based on 
>>>      
>>>
>comments
>  
>
>>>from Alex Zarochentsev (thanks ;-).
>>>      
>>>
>>>This patch allows reading of repacker stats while it is working. It 
>>>      
>>>
>creates
>  
>
>>>two files in repacker sysfs hierarchy: formatted_nodes and 
>>>      
>>>
>unformatted_nodes,
>  
>
>>>which correspond to the stats that repacker prints after it has finished.
>>>      
>>>
>>>Download:
>>>      
>>>
>>>http://kem.p.lodz.pl/~peter/reiser4_repacker_stats-2.patch
>>>      
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>      
>>>
>>>Piotr Neuman
>>>      
>>>
>>´
>>
>>-- 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Currently the repacker is known to corrupt the filesystem, that's
>why it's disabled, I guess.
>
>  
>
There are two reasons:

1) functionality that is not stable should be turned off until it is 
stable ("...." and repacker both).

2) we aren't making payroll and need something nonessential to bundle 
with support if we want people to buy support so that I am to be able to 
quit my day job and pay people.  There is nothing less essential yet 
still salable than a repacker/resizer.  ext3 had a proprietary resizer, 
so it is not an innovation by us.

reiser4 development is going at greatly reduced speed due to our needing 
to take contracts involving other kernel work rather than working on 
reiser4.  I am basically unable to spend time reviewing reiser4 code 
because I have this day job fixing things not related to reiser4 in the 
kernel.  I am glad to have the day job, but getting money from our work 
on reiser4 would be better.....

I have also asked both the EU and the US for money, wish me luck.  I'd 
like to start working on the enhanced semantics for ReiserFS, but I need 
money to do that.  We are losing momentum vs. Apple and MS.  The resizer 
might bring in the money for enhanced semantics work.

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* Re: [patch] Repacker stats
  2004-10-23 16:25     ` Hans Reiser
@ 2004-10-24 12:52       ` Spam
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Spam @ 2004-10-24 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: reiserfs-list



>> Christian Mayrhuber wrote:

>> On Friday 22 October 2004 19:38, Spam wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>  Hello,
>>>
>>>  I was interested in testing the repacker statistics tool that Piotr
>>>  Neuman wrote (and others later added to). But from what I can see
>>>  the repacker is disabled in 2.6.9-rc4-mm1, because of this patch:
>>>
>>>     
>>>    
>>>
>>>  http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.9-rc4/2.6.9-rc4-mm1/broken-out/reiser4-disable-repacker.patch
>>>
>>>
>>>  Is there something wrong with the repacker that is has to be
>>>  disabled?
>>>
>>>  ~S
>>>  
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>Currently the repacker is known to corrupt the filesystem, that's
>>why it's disabled, I guess.
>>
>>  
>>
> There are two reasons:

> 1) functionality that is not stable should be turned off until it is
> stable ("...." and repacker both).

  Turned off, or perhaps better to be marked as unstable or dangerous.
  If it isn't available, no one will test and report problems.

> 2) we aren't making payroll and need something nonessential to bundle
> with support if we want people to buy support so that I am to be able to
> quit my day job and pay people.  There is nothing less essential yet
> still salable than a repacker/resizer.  ext3 had a proprietary resizer,
> so it is not an innovation by us.

  This I do understand very well. It brings my thoughts to Diskepper
  from Executive Software (www.executive.com). Microsoft included a
  basic version of their defrag software into Windows 2000. Users see
  the functionality, but they cannot do much with it other than manual
  defrag. All advanced features usually needed for corporate world is
  only available if you pay to "upgrade" to full version of Diskeeper.

  My suggestion is to leave a basic version of the repacker for normal
  users, and to offer a more advanced and manageable version for
  corporate network and server use? More users will see the
  availability of defrag with Reiser4 and choose it above another fs.
  In the end, probably, more people/companies would buy the extended
  features?

> reiser4 development is going at greatly reduced speed due to our needing
> to take contracts involving other kernel work rather than working on
> reiser4.  I am basically unable to spend time reviewing reiser4 code
> because I have this day job fixing things not related to reiser4 in the
> kernel.  I am glad to have the day job, but getting money from our work
> on reiser4 would be better.....

> I have also asked both the EU and the US for money, wish me luck. I'd
> like to start working on the enhanced semantics for ReiserFS, but I need
> money to do that.  We are losing momentum vs. Apple and MS.  The resizer
> might bring in the money for enhanced semantics work.

  I wish you luck. It would be a shame if you would have to quit the
  work on your filesystems.

  ~S

-- 


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* Re: [patch] Repacker stats
  2004-10-17  8:01 Piotr Neuman
@ 2004-10-17 14:25 ` mjt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: mjt @ 2004-10-17 14:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Piotr Neuman; +Cc: reiserfs-list

On Sun, Oct 17, 2004 at 10:01:05AM +0200, Piotr Neuman wrote:
>
>This patch allows reading of repacker stats while it is working. It creates 
>two files in repacker sysfs hierarchy: formatted_nodes and unformatted_nodes, 
>which correspond to the stats that repacker prints after it has finished.

Cheers for the sikkhmeister :)

I started hacking something of an analyzer, but being in this very
tired mood and all, I think at least the math parts of it are broken ;)

Latest version:
http://mjt.nysv.org/reiser/repacker_stats/03-repackerstat.py

Kludgy to the max, but I hope I can teach it to do graphs at some point
and also to start and stop the repacker with different settings.
Once that's done, all it needs is a port to C and it should be shippable.

All help is appreciated, as always.

-- 
mjt


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* [patch] Repacker stats
@ 2004-10-17  8:01 Piotr Neuman
  2004-10-17 14:25 ` mjt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Piotr Neuman @ 2004-10-17  8:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: reiserfs-list

Hi

This patch allows reading of repacker stats while it is working. It creates 
two files in repacker sysfs hierarchy: formatted_nodes and unformatted_nodes, 
which correspond to the stats that repacker prints after it has finished.

Download:

http://kem.p.lodz.pl/~peter/reiser4_repacker_stats.patch.bz2
or
http://kem.p.lodz.pl/~peter/reiser4_repacker_stats.patch

The patch seems pretty safe, though I wait for confirmation from zam on 
that ;-).

Regards

Piotr Neuman

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