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* Interesting RAID checking observations - I'm getting it too
@ 2006-08-30  9:54 Mark Smith
  2006-09-04 16:42 ` Bill Davidsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Mark Smith @ 2006-08-30  9:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-raid

Just a note, I've noticed this problem too. I run a RAID1 check once
every 24 hours, and while developing the script to do it, noticed that
the machine became virtually unusable - mouse was jumpy, typing lagged.

I run this check every morning at 4.00am so I'm usually asleep and
don't notice it, so it hasn't been a big bother to me.

The data may be a bit corse, however here is what sysstat/sar says my
machine does during the check. Let me know if you want any more or other
sar data.

sar 
~~~
00:01:01          CPU     %user     %nice   %system   %iowait    %steal     %idle
.
.
03:51:01          all      0.68      0.00      0.33      0.00      0.00     98.99
03:56:01          all      1.03      0.00      0.39      0.00      0.00     98.58
04:01:01          all      0.73      0.01     20.70      0.01      0.00     78.55
04:06:01          all      1.32      0.00     82.81      0.07      0.00     15.80
04:11:01          all      1.26      0.00     67.91      0.20      0.00     30.63
04:16:01          all      1.18      0.00     58.14      0.22      0.00     40.46
04:21:01          all      1.00      0.00     79.94      0.16      0.00     18.89
04:26:01          all      1.09      0.00     94.54      0.28      0.00      4.09
04:31:01          all      1.33      0.00     84.23      0.13      0.00     14.30
04:36:01          all      1.58      0.00     71.76      0.19      0.00     26.47
04:41:01          all      0.68      0.00      0.35      0.00      0.00     98.97
04:46:01          all      0.82      0.00      0.42      0.00      0.00     98.76
.
.

sar -b (Report  I/O  and transfer rate statistics)
~~~~~~
00:01:01          tps      rtps      wtps   bread/s   bwrtn/s
.
.
03:51:01         0.45      0.00      0.45      0.00      4.19
03:56:01         0.98      0.00      0.98      0.00     10.53
04:01:01       294.21    293.21      1.00  37529.57     10.01
04:06:01      1198.39   1197.36      1.03 153262.11      9.22
04:11:01       995.09    994.64      0.45 127314.06      4.11
04:16:01       852.48    852.03      0.45 109060.47      4.19
04:21:01      1161.13   1160.17      0.96 148500.42      9.15
04:26:01      1361.27   1360.51      0.76 174144.93      7.33
04:31:01      1226.02   1225.36      0.66 156846.40      6.13
04:36:01      1052.60   1051.96      0.65 134650.39      6.03
04:41:01         0.73      0.00      0.73      0.00      6.61
04:46:01         0.45      0.00      0.45      0.00      4.19
.
.
.
sar -B (Report paging statistics)
~~~~~~
00:01:01     pgpgin/s pgpgout/s   fault/s  majflt/s
.
.
03:51:01         0.00      1.16      5.05      0.00
03:56:01         0.00      2.47     15.38      0.00
04:01:01         0.01      2.54     21.32      0.00
04:06:01         0.00      2.57      6.94      0.00
04:11:01         0.00      1.15      5.04      0.00
04:16:01         0.00      1.16      5.04      0.00
04:21:01         0.01      2.36      6.24      0.00
04:26:01         0.00      1.88      4.88      0.00
04:31:01         0.00      1.63      8.35      0.00
04:36:01         0.00      1.63      5.04      0.00
04:41:01         0.00      1.81     11.12      0.00
04:46:01         0.00      1.16      5.04      0.00
04:51:01         0.00      1.07      5.05      0.00
04:56:01         0.00      1.16      5.05      0.00
.
.
sar -q (Report queue length and load averages)
~~~~~~
00:01:01      runq-sz  plist-sz   ldavg-1   ldavg-5  ldavg-15
.
.
03:51:01            0       106      0.00      0.00      0.00
03:56:01            0       106      0.00      0.00      0.00
04:01:01            3       117      7.14      2.19      0.76
04:06:01            0       113      7.97      6.23      2.95
04:11:01            0       113      7.95      7.29      4.31
04:16:01            0       113      7.56      7.48      5.20
04:21:01            1       110      6.38      7.35      5.81
04:26:01            1       107      2.07      4.33      4.96
04:31:01            0       107      2.16      2.94      4.17
04:36:01            0       106      1.57      2.19      3.50
04:41:01            0       106      0.01      0.79      2.52
04:46:01            0       106      0.00      0.28      1.81
04:51:01            0       106      0.00      0.09      1.30
04:56:01            0       106      0.00      0.03      0.93
.
.

Regards,
Mark.

-- 

        "Sheep are slow and tasty, and therefore must remain constantly
         alert."
                                   - Bruce Schneier, "Beyond Fear"

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* Re: Interesting RAID checking observations - I'm getting it too
  2006-08-30  9:54 Interesting RAID checking observations - I'm getting it too Mark Smith
@ 2006-09-04 16:42 ` Bill Davidsen
  2006-09-04 21:23   ` Mark Smith
  2006-09-08  9:30   ` Mark Smith
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Bill Davidsen @ 2006-09-04 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mark Smith; +Cc: linux-raid




Mark Smith wrote:

>Just a note, I've noticed this problem too. I run a RAID1 check once
>every 24 hours, and while developing the script to do it, noticed that
>the machine became virtually unusable - mouse was jumpy, typing lagged.
>
>I run this check every morning at 4.00am so I'm usually asleep and
>don't notice it, so it hasn't been a big bother to me.
>  
>
Interesting, but do you run other stuff at that time? Several 
distributions run various things in the middle of the night which really 
bog the machine.

>The data may be a bit corse, however here is what sysstat/sar says my
>machine does during the check. Let me know if you want any more or other
>sar data.
>
[ data dropped, not relevant to my suggestion ]

-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO TMR Associates, Inc
  Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979


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* Re: Interesting RAID checking observations - I'm getting it too
  2006-09-04 16:42 ` Bill Davidsen
@ 2006-09-04 21:23   ` Mark Smith
  2006-09-08  9:30   ` Mark Smith
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Mark Smith @ 2006-09-04 21:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bill Davidsen; +Cc: linux-raid

Hi Bill,

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 12:42:53 -0400
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Mark Smith wrote:
> 
> >Just a note, I've noticed this problem too. I run a RAID1 check once
> >every 24 hours, and while developing the script to do it, noticed that
> >the machine became virtually unusable - mouse was jumpy, typing lagged.
> >
> >I run this check every morning at 4.00am so I'm usually asleep and
> >don't notice it, so it hasn't been a big bother to me.
> >  
> >
> Interesting, but do you run other stuff at that time? Several 
> distributions run various things in the middle of the night which really 
> bog the machine.
> 

Pretty sure not. daily cron run at 12.00am, I run a daily smart short
test at 2.00am, and then this check at 4.00 am. I'll switch it off
tonight just to confirm that, by looking at the same sar data.

I think I read on the list that Neil discovered something that he
thinks might be causing it, I figured I just might be able to provide
some data to help confirm that.

Regards,
Mark.

-- 

        "Sheep are slow and tasty, and therefore must remain constantly
         alert."
                                   - Bruce Schneier, "Beyond Fear"

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* Re: Interesting RAID checking observations - I'm getting it too
  2006-09-04 16:42 ` Bill Davidsen
  2006-09-04 21:23   ` Mark Smith
@ 2006-09-08  9:30   ` Mark Smith
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Mark Smith @ 2006-09-08  9:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bill Davidsen; +Cc: linux-raid

Hi Bill,

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 12:42:53 -0400
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Mark Smith wrote:
> 
> >
> Interesting, but do you run other stuff at that time? Several 
> distributions run various things in the middle of the night which really 
> bog the machine.
> 

Doesn't look like it. Shifted the check to 3.00am, 4.00am period is now
"all nothing" :

00:01:01          CPU     %user     %nice   %system   %iowait    %steal     %idle
.
.
03:56:02          all      0.85      0.00      0.38      0.00      0.00     98.77
04:01:01          all      0.75      0.00      0.34      0.00      0.00     98.91
04:06:01          all      0.73      0.00      0.35      0.00      0.00     98.92
04:11:01          all      0.73      0.00      0.38      0.00      0.00     98.89
04:16:01          all      0.84      0.00      0.37      0.00      0.00     98.79
04:21:01          all      0.68      0.00      0.34      0.00      0.00     98.98
04:26:01          all      0.78      0.00      0.39      0.00      0.00     98.83
04:31:01          all      1.18      0.00      0.40      0.00      0.00     98.43
04:36:01          all      0.88      0.00      0.33      0.00      0.00     98.79
04:41:01          all      0.72      0.00      0.38      0.00      0.00     98.90
04:46:01          all      0.80      0.00      0.42      0.00      0.00     98.78
.
.

Regards,
Mark.

-- 

        "Sheep are slow and tasty, and therefore must remain constantly
         alert."
                                   - Bruce Schneier, "Beyond Fear"

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