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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.20
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:11:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061206131155.GA8558@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612061334230.1867@scrub.home>


* Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> 
> > If I understand it correctly, Roman wants clockevents to be usable 
> > for other things aside hrtimer/dyntick, i.e. let other code request 
> > unused timer event hardware for special purposes. I thought about 
> > that in the originally but I stayed away from it, as there are no 
> > users at the moment and I wanted to avoid the usual "who needs that" 
> > comment.
> 
> Nonsense, [...]

why do you call Thomas' observation nonsense? Fact: there is no current 
user of such a facility. What we implemented, high-res timers and 
dynticks does not need such a facility.

we wholeheartedly agree that such a facility 'would be nice', and 'could 
be used by existing kernel code' but we didnt want to chew too much at a 
time.

> [...] one obvious user would be the scheduler, [...]

But cleaning up the scheduler tick was not our purpose with high-res 
timers nor with dynticks. One of your previous complaints was that the 
patches are too intrusive to be trusted. Now they are too simple?

We'll clean up the scheduler tick and profiling too, but not now.

> [...] the current scheduler tick emulation is rather ugly [...]

i disagree with you and it's pretty low-impact anyway. There's still 
quite many HZ/tick assumptions all around the time code (NTP being one 
example), we'll deal with those via other patches.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-06 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-05  4:40 -mm merge plans for 2.6.20 Andrew Morton
2006-12-05  4:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-05  5:41   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05  7:04     ` Jens Axboe
2006-12-05 15:00     ` Mark Lord
2006-12-06 19:19     ` Conke Hu
2006-12-06 19:26       ` Randy Dunlap
2006-12-06 19:40       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-12-06 22:36       ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05  5:14 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-12-05  5:42   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05  5:53     ` Nick Piggin
2006-12-05  5:49   ` Nick Piggin
2006-12-05  8:36 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2006-12-05  8:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-12-05 11:06 ` ext2 future [was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.20] Pavel Machek
2006-12-05 13:23 ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.20 John W. Linville
2006-12-05 14:27 ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-06  3:46   ` Horst Schirmeier
2006-12-05 16:02 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-12 17:49   ` Dave Jones
2006-12-19  5:20     ` Nick Piggin
2006-12-19  6:44       ` Dave Jones
2006-12-19  7:02         ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-07 17:36       ` page_mapcount(page) went negative Dave Jones
2007-01-10 23:53         ` Nick Piggin
2006-12-05 17:35 ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.20 James Simmons
2006-12-05 18:01   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 18:25     ` James Simmons
2006-12-05 18:37       ` [PATCH] backlight sysfs change to the fbdev drivers James Simmons
2006-12-05 18:37         ` James Simmons
2006-12-05 19:43       ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.20 Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 19:59         ` James Simmons
2006-12-05 20:20           ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 21:34             ` James Simmons
2006-12-06 23:40               ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-07 14:31                 ` James Simmons
2006-12-05 20:40       ` Miguel Ojeda
2006-12-06 14:42         ` James Simmons
2006-12-05 19:18 ` Josef Sipek
2006-12-05 19:21   ` [PATCH 1/2] fsstack: Make fsstack_copy_attr_all copy inode size Josef Sipek
2006-12-05 19:22   ` [PATCH 2/2] fsstack: Fix up ecryptfs's fsstack usage Josef Sipek
2006-12-05 22:28     ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 22:38       ` Josef Sipek
2006-12-05 22:49         ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 23:16           ` Josef Sipek
2006-12-05 21:00 ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.20 Ingo Molnar
2006-12-05 21:17 ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.20, scheduler bits Ingo Molnar
2006-12-05 20:59   ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-12-05 21:47     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-05 21:29   ` Miguel Ojeda
2006-12-06  2:59 ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.20 Roman Zippel
2006-12-06  4:30   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-06  8:32     ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-12-06 12:54       ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-06 13:11         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-12-06 14:33           ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-06 15:22             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-06 16:42               ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-06 16:58                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-06 16:59                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-12 20:40             ` [RFC] HZ free ntp john stultz
2006-12-13  9:51               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-12-13 18:48                 ` john stultz
2006-12-13 13:47               ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-13 19:19                 ` john stultz
2006-12-13 20:40                   ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-20  1:32                     ` john stultz
2006-12-20  1:54                       ` john stultz
2006-12-21  4:26                         ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-01 18:29                         ` Roman Zippel
2007-01-02 19:46                           ` john stultz
2007-01-02 20:50                             ` john stultz
2007-01-06 16:56                               ` Roman Zippel
2007-01-22 19:27                         ` [patch] HZ-free NTP Ingo Molnar
2007-01-22 19:39                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-01 16:27                       ` [RFC] HZ free ntp Roman Zippel
2007-01-02 19:42                         ` john stultz
2007-01-06 16:46                           ` Roman Zippel
2006-12-06 12:33     ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.20 Roman Zippel
2006-12-08 14:09 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-12-08 20:58   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-10 15:07     ` Mimi Zohar
2006-12-09  9:30 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-12-09  9:44   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-10 20:12     ` Randy Dunlap
2006-12-05 23:55 Alessandro Guido
2006-12-06  0:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-08 18:32 Steve French
2006-12-08 21:38 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-10  3:18 Chuck Ebbert
2006-12-11  4:19 ` Steve French
2006-12-11  9:32 Chuck Ebbert
2006-12-13  1:09 Chuck Ebbert

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