libfdt: a fix but still broken

libfdt: a fix but still broken

[Jerry Van Baren]

Hi Dave,

I have good news and bad news. ;-)  The good news is that the 
incompatibility between libfdt and jdl's dtc is that libfdt has the name 
offset and the length of the name switched.  booting_without_of.txt says 
the length comes first, so libfdt is in the wrong.

The bad news is that, when I fix this, nearly all of the tests fail (but 
they fail the same way for both tree.S and jdl's dtc).  I have not 
started on that layer of the onion yet.

Best regards,
gvb

$ git diff fdt.h
diff --git a/fdt.h b/fdt.h
index fff533e..4687a31 100644
--- a/fdt.h
+++ b/fdt.h
@@ -36,8 +36,8 @@ struct fdt_node_header {

  struct fdt_property {
         uint32_t tag;
-       uint32_t nameoff;
         uint32_t len;
+       uint32_t nameoff;
         char data[0];
  };

$ git diff tests/trees.S
diff --git a/tests/trees.S b/tests/trees.S
index 76c0057..400e7d0 100644
--- a/tests/trees.S
+++ b/tests/trees.S
@@ -39,8 +39,8 @@ tree: \

  #define PROPHDR(tree, name, len) \
         FDTLONG(FDT_PROP)       ; \
-       FDTLONG(tree##_##name - tree##_strings) ; \
-       FDTLONG(len)            ;
+       FDTLONG(len)            ; \
+       FDTLONG(tree##_##name - tree##_strings) ;

  #define PROP_INT(tree, name, val) \
         PROPHDR(tree, name, 4) \


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Re: libfdt: a fix but still broken

[David Gibson]

On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:27:29AM -0500, Jerry Van Baren wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> I have good news and bad news. ;-)  The good news is that the 
> incompatibility between libfdt and jdl's dtc is that libfdt has the name 
> offset and the length of the name switched.  booting_without_of.txt says 
> the length comes first, so libfdt is in the wrong.

Ouch.  That's.. a very embarrassing bug.  Actually, I know where it
came from: I was looking at flat_dt.h from dtc, which also gets this
wrong (but the declaration in question is unused).  Of course, I also
wrote flat_dt.h ...

> The bad news is that, when I fix this, nearly all of the tests fail (but 
> they fail the same way for both tree.S and jdl's dtc).  I have not 
> started on that layer of the onion yet.

Found it, there was a direct use of the position of the length in
_fdt_next_tag().  Just pushed out a fix for this in the libfdt tree,
along with some other small fixes which I found while tracking this
one down.

Oh, incidentally, I applied your patch by eye rather than with
patch(1), which was handy, because it appears to have been whitespace
damaged.

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Re: libfdt: a fix but still broken

[Jerry Van Baren]

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David Gibson wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:27:29AM -0500, Jerry Van Baren wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> I have good news and bad news. ;-)  The good news is that the 
>> incompatibility between libfdt and jdl's dtc is that libfdt has the name 
>> offset and the length of the name switched.  booting_without_of.txt says 
>> the length comes first, so libfdt is in the wrong.
> 
> Ouch.  That's.. a very embarrassing bug.  Actually, I know where it
> came from: I was looking at flat_dt.h from dtc, which also gets this
> wrong (but the declaration in question is unused).  Of course, I also
> wrote flat_dt.h ...
> 
>> The bad news is that, when I fix this, nearly all of the tests fail (but 
>> they fail the same way for both tree.S and jdl's dtc).  I have not 
>> started on that layer of the onion yet.
> 
> Found it, there was a direct use of the position of the length in
> _fdt_next_tag().  Just pushed out a fix for this in the libfdt tree,
> along with some other small fixes which I found while tracking this
> one down.
> 
> Oh, incidentally, I applied your patch by eye rather than with
> patch(1), which was handy, because it appears to have been whitespace
> damaged.

Hi David,

Sorry about the whitespace, I actually generated it at home, emailed it 
to my day job, and edited and forwarded it from there (I'm not 
subscribed at home - probably should be).

It sounds like we found and fixed the same bug last night.

I went quite a bit further (before finding and fixing the real bug).  I 
was looking at the *_type "function like" #defines that generate a 
temporary variable of indeterminate (until compile time) type.  An example:

#define fdt_setprop_inplace_typed(fdt, nodeoffset, name, val) \
	({ \
		typeof(val) x = val; \
		fdt_setprop_inplace(fdt, nodeoffset, name, &x, sizeof(x)); \
	})

IMHO this is borderline evil and unnecessary, and I removed all of them 
by replacing the call of the *_type macros with the equivalent actual 
function.  What I was suspicious of is when I changed all the calls to 
use proper endian by calling cpu_to_fdt32(), the parameter "val" is no 
longer a simple constant or variable but is, instead, a function call or 
macro or nothing at all, depending on the host endian and compiler 
implementation.  It turns out that this apparently wasn't a problem, but 
I'm still of the opinion that those #defines have minimal value and 
makes the code baroque. ;-)

I've attached a patch file that shouldn't be whitespace damaged this 
time.  :-/  I can also make my git repository accessible if that is helpful.

Best regards,
gvb

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Tests are working again.  Most tests work with dtc, but a couple of
  tests fail with the dtc-generated blob due to the version being 16
  instead of 17.

Signed-off-by: Jerry Van Baren <vanbaren@cideas.com>
---
 fdt.c                   |    2 +-
 fdt_ro.c                |    4 ++--
 libfdt.h                |   23 -----------------------
 tests/del_node.c        |   16 +++++++++++-----
 tests/del_property.c    |    4 +++-
 tests/find_property.c   |    4 +++-
 tests/getprop.c         |    4 +++-
 tests/nop_node.c        |   16 +++++++++++-----
 tests/nop_property.c    |    4 +++-
 tests/path_offset.c     |    2 +-
 tests/root_node.c       |    2 +-
 tests/rw_tree1.c        |   18 ++++++++++++------
 tests/setprop.c         |    8 +++++---
 tests/setprop_inplace.c |   11 ++++++++---
 tests/subnode_offset.c  |   17 ++++++++++++-----
 tests/sw_tree1.c        |   18 ++++++++++++------
 tests/test_tree1.dts    |   12 ++++++------
 tests/tests.h           |   13 -------------
 18 files changed, 94 insertions(+), 84 deletions(-)

diff --git a/fdt.c b/fdt.c
index 45568b1..772da46 100644
--- a/fdt.c
+++ b/fdt.c
@@ -83,7 +83,7 @@ uint32_t _fdt_next_tag(const void *fdt, int offset, int *nextoffset)
 			return FDT_END;
 		break;
 	case FDT_PROP:
-		lenp = fdt_offset_ptr(fdt, offset + FDT_TAGSIZE, sizeof(*lenp));
+		lenp = fdt_offset_ptr(fdt, offset, sizeof(*lenp));
 		if (! lenp)
 			return FDT_END;
 		/* skip name offset, length and value */
diff --git a/fdt_ro.c b/fdt_ro.c
index 7eebb03..935ee43 100644
--- a/fdt_ro.c
+++ b/fdt_ro.c
@@ -226,7 +226,7 @@ struct fdt_property *fdt_get_property(const void *fdt,
 				continue;

 			err = -FDT_ERR_BADSTRUCTURE;
-			prop = fdt_offset_ptr_typed(fdt, offset, prop);
+			prop = fdt_offset_ptr(fdt, offset, sizeof(fdt_property));
 			if (! prop)
 				goto fail;
 			namestroff = fdt32_to_cpu(prop->nameoff);
@@ -274,5 +274,5 @@ void *fdt_getprop(const void *fdt, int nodeoffset,
 	if (! prop)
 		return NULL;

-	return prop->data;
+	return (void *)prop->data;
 }
diff --git a/libfdt.h b/libfdt.h
index acdc72e..3c6859b 100644
--- a/libfdt.h
+++ b/libfdt.h
@@ -62,9 +62,6 @@

 void *fdt_offset_ptr(const void *fdt, int offset, int checklen);

-#define fdt_offset_ptr_typed(fdt, offset, var) \
-	((typeof(var))(fdt_offset_ptr((fdt), (offset), sizeof(*(var)))))
-
 int fdt_move(const void *fdt, void *buf, int bufsize);

 /* Read-only functions */
@@ -85,12 +82,6 @@ void *fdt_getprop(const void *fdt, int nodeoffset,
 int fdt_setprop_inplace(void *fdt, int nodeoffset, const char *name,
 			const void *val, int len);

-#define fdt_setprop_inplace_typed(fdt, nodeoffset, name, val) \
-	({ \
-		typeof(val) x = val; \
-		fdt_setprop_inplace(fdt, nodeoffset, name, &x, sizeof(x)); \
-	})
-
 int fdt_nop_property(void *fdt, int nodeoffset, const char *name);
 int fdt_nop_node(void *fdt, int nodeoffset);

@@ -100,13 +91,6 @@ int fdt_add_reservemap_entry(void *fdt, uint64_t addr, uint64_t size);
 int fdt_finish_reservemap(void *fdt);
 int fdt_begin_node(void *fdt, const char *name);
 int fdt_property(void *fdt, const char *name, const void *val, int len);
-#define fdt_property_typed(fdt, name, val) \
-	({ \
-		typeof(val) x = (val); \
-		fdt_property((fdt), (name), &x, sizeof(x)); \
-	})
-#define fdt_property_string(fdt, name, str) \
-	fdt_property(fdt, name, str, strlen(str)+1)
 int fdt_end_node(void *fdt);
 int fdt_finish(void *fdt);

@@ -116,13 +100,6 @@ int fdt_pack(void *fdt);

 int fdt_setprop(void *fdt, int nodeoffset, const char *name,
 		const void *val, int len);
-#define fdt_setprop_typed(fdt, nodeoffset, name, val) \
-	({ \
-		typeof(val) x = (val); \
-		fdt_setprop((fdt), (nodeoffset), (name), &x, sizeof(x)); \
-	})
-#define fdt_setprop_string(fdt, nodeoffset, name, str) \
-	fdt_setprop((fdt), (nodeoffset), (name), (str), strlen(str)+1)
 int fdt_delprop(void *fdt, int nodeoffset, const char *name);
 int fdt_add_subnode_namelen(void *fdt, int parentoffset,
 			    const char *name, int namelen);
diff --git a/tests/del_node.c b/tests/del_node.c
index ba79c3c..8f216df 100644
--- a/tests/del_node.c
+++ b/tests/del_node.c
@@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	int subnode1_offset, subnode2_offset, subsubnode2_offset;
 	int err;
 	int oldsize, delsize, newsize;
+	uint32_t x;

 	test_init(argc, argv);
 	fdt = load_blob_arg(argc, argv);
@@ -45,19 +46,22 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	if (subnode1_offset < 0)
 		FAIL("Couldn't find \"/subnode1\": %s",
 		     fdt_strerror(subnode1_offset));
-	check_getprop_typed(fdt, subnode1_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	check_getprop(fdt, subnode1_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	subnode2_offset = fdt_path_offset(fdt, "/subnode2");
 	if (subnode2_offset < 0)
 		FAIL("Couldn't find \"/subnode2\": %s",
 		     fdt_strerror(subnode2_offset));
-	check_getprop_typed(fdt, subnode2_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	check_getprop(fdt, subnode2_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	subsubnode2_offset = fdt_path_offset(fdt, "/subnode2/subsubnode");
 	if (subsubnode2_offset < 0)
 		FAIL("Couldn't find \"/subnode2/subsubnode\": %s",
 		     fdt_strerror(subsubnode2_offset));
-	check_getprop_typed(fdt, subsubnode2_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	check_getprop(fdt, subsubnode2_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	err = fdt_del_node(fdt, subnode1_offset);
 	if (err)
@@ -73,13 +77,15 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	if (subnode2_offset < 0)
 		FAIL("Couldn't find \"/subnode2\": %s",
 		     fdt_strerror(subnode2_offset));
-	check_getprop_typed(fdt, subnode2_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	check_getprop(fdt, subnode2_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	subsubnode2_offset = fdt_path_offset(fdt, "/subnode2/subsubnode");
 	if (subsubnode2_offset < 0)
 		FAIL("Couldn't find \"/subnode2/subsubnode\": %s",
 		     fdt_strerror(subsubnode2_offset));
-	check_getprop_typed(fdt, subsubnode2_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	check_getprop(fdt, subsubnode2_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	err = fdt_del_node(fdt, subnode2_offset);
 	if (err)
diff --git a/tests/del_property.c b/tests/del_property.c
index a55f7f7..9f8e637 100644
--- a/tests/del_property.c
+++ b/tests/del_property.c
@@ -36,13 +36,15 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	char *strp;
 	int err, lenerr;
 	int oldsize, delsize, newsize;
+	uint32_t x;

 	test_init(argc, argv);
 	fdt = load_blob_arg(argc, argv);

 	oldsize = fdt_totalsize(fdt);

-	intp = check_getprop_typed(fdt, 0, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	intp = check_getprop(fdt, 0, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);
 	verbose_printf("int value was 0x%08x\n", *intp);

 	err = fdt_delprop(fdt, 0, "prop-int");
diff --git a/tests/find_property.c b/tests/find_property.c
index cd57ebe..27b9d2c 100644
--- a/tests/find_property.c
+++ b/tests/find_property.c
@@ -30,11 +30,13 @@
 int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 {
 	void *fdt;
+	uint32_t x;

 	test_init(argc, argv);
 	fdt = load_blob_arg(argc, argv);

-	check_property_typed(fdt, 0, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	check_property(fdt, 0, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);
 	check_property(fdt, 0, "prop-str", strlen(TEST_STRING_1)+1, TEST_STRING_1);

 	PASS();
diff --git a/tests/getprop.c b/tests/getprop.c
index 819842b..a92f438 100644
--- a/tests/getprop.c
+++ b/tests/getprop.c
@@ -31,11 +31,13 @@
 int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 {
 	void *fdt;
+	uint32_t x;

 	test_init(argc, argv);
 	fdt = load_blob_arg(argc, argv);

-	check_getprop_typed(fdt, 0, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	check_getprop(fdt, 0, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);
 	check_getprop(fdt, 0, "prop-str", strlen(TEST_STRING_1)+1, TEST_STRING_1);

 	PASS();
diff --git a/tests/nop_node.c b/tests/nop_node.c
index 03f7116..1572b4b 100644
--- a/tests/nop_node.c
+++ b/tests/nop_node.c
@@ -34,6 +34,7 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	void *fdt;
 	int subnode1_offset, subnode2_offset, subsubnode2_offset;
 	int err;
+	uint32_t x;

 	test_init(argc, argv);
 	fdt = load_blob_arg(argc, argv);
@@ -42,19 +43,22 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	if (subnode1_offset < 0)
 		FAIL("Couldn't find \"/subnode1\": %s",
 		     fdt_strerror(subnode1_offset));
-	check_getprop_typed(fdt, subnode1_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	check_getprop(fdt, subnode1_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	subnode2_offset = fdt_path_offset(fdt, "/subnode2");
 	if (subnode2_offset < 0)
 		FAIL("Couldn't find \"/subnode2\": %s",
 		     fdt_strerror(subnode2_offset));
-	check_getprop_typed(fdt, subnode2_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	check_getprop(fdt, subnode2_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	subsubnode2_offset = fdt_path_offset(fdt, "/subnode2/subsubnode");
 	if (subsubnode2_offset < 0)
 		FAIL("Couldn't find \"/subnode2/subsubnode\": %s",
 		     fdt_strerror(subsubnode2_offset));
-	check_getprop_typed(fdt, subsubnode2_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	check_getprop(fdt, subsubnode2_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	err = fdt_nop_node(fdt, subnode1_offset);
 	if (err)
@@ -70,13 +74,15 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	if (subnode2_offset < 0)
 		FAIL("Couldn't find \"/subnode2\": %s",
 		     fdt_strerror(subnode2_offset));
-	check_getprop_typed(fdt, subnode2_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	check_getprop(fdt, subnode2_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	subsubnode2_offset = fdt_path_offset(fdt, "/subnode2/subsubnode");
 	if (subsubnode2_offset < 0)
 		FAIL("Couldn't find \"/subnode2/subsubnode\": %s",
 		     fdt_strerror(subsubnode2_offset));
-	check_getprop_typed(fdt, subsubnode2_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	check_getprop(fdt, subsubnode2_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	err = fdt_nop_node(fdt, subnode2_offset);
 	if (err)
diff --git a/tests/nop_property.c b/tests/nop_property.c
index 465ea7a..dd76c79 100644
--- a/tests/nop_property.c
+++ b/tests/nop_property.c
@@ -36,11 +36,13 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	char *strp;
 	int err;
 	int lenerr;
+	uint32_t x;

 	test_init(argc, argv);
 	fdt = load_blob_arg(argc, argv);

-	intp = check_getprop_typed(fdt, 0, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	intp = check_getprop(fdt, 0, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);
 	verbose_printf("int value was 0x%08x\n", *intp);

 	err = fdt_nop_property(fdt, 0, "prop-int");
diff --git a/tests/path_offset.c b/tests/path_offset.c
index 42e5daa..898621d 100644
--- a/tests/path_offset.c
+++ b/tests/path_offset.c
@@ -38,7 +38,7 @@ int check_subnode(void *fdt, int parent, const char *name)
 	verbose_printf("offset %d...", offset);
 	if (offset < 0)
 		FAIL("fdt_subnode_offset(\"%s\"): %s", name, fdt_strerror(offset));
-	nh = fdt_offset_ptr_typed(fdt, offset, nh);
+	nh = fdt_offset_ptr(fdt, offset, sizeof(*nh));
 	verbose_printf("pointer %p\n", nh);
 	if (! nh)
 		FAIL("NULL retrieving subnode \"%s\"", name);
diff --git a/tests/root_node.c b/tests/root_node.c
index 4258b91..685ffa3 100644
--- a/tests/root_node.c
+++ b/tests/root_node.c
@@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	test_init(argc, argv);
 	fdt = load_blob_arg(argc, argv);

-	nh = fdt_offset_ptr_typed(fdt, 0, nh);
+	nh = fdt_offset_ptr(fdt, 0, sizeof(*nh));

 	if (! nh)
 		FAIL("NULL retrieving root node");
diff --git a/tests/rw_tree1.c b/tests/rw_tree1.c
index fc473e1..f4e74b4 100644
--- a/tests/rw_tree1.c
+++ b/tests/rw_tree1.c
@@ -50,6 +50,7 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	void *fdt;
 	int err;
 	int offset;
+	uint32_t x;

 	test_init(argc, argv);

@@ -68,19 +69,24 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])

 	CHECK(fdt_open_into(fdt, fdt, SPACE));

-	CHECK(fdt_setprop_typed(fdt, 0, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1)));
-	CHECK(fdt_setprop_string(fdt, 0, "prop-str", TEST_STRING_1));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	CHECK(fdt_setprop(fdt, 0, "prop-int", &x, sizeof(x)));
+	CHECK(fdt_setprop(fdt, 0, "prop-str", TEST_STRING_1, strlen(TEST_STRING_1)+1));

 	OFF_CHECK(offset, fdt_add_subnode(fdt, 0, "subnode1"));
-	CHECK(fdt_setprop_typed(fdt, offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1)));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	CHECK(fdt_setprop(fdt, offset, "prop-int", &x, sizeof(x)));
 	OFF_CHECK(offset, fdt_add_subnode(fdt, offset, "subsubnode"));
-	CHECK(fdt_setprop_typed(fdt, offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1)));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	CHECK(fdt_setprop(fdt, offset, "prop-int", &x, sizeof(x)));

 	OFF_CHECK(offset, fdt_add_subnode(fdt, 0, "subnode2"));
-	CHECK(fdt_setprop_typed(fdt, offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2)));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	CHECK(fdt_setprop(fdt, offset, "prop-int", &x, sizeof(x)));
 	OFF_CHECK(offset, fdt_add_subnode(fdt, offset, "subsubnode"));

-	CHECK(fdt_setprop_typed(fdt, offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2)));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	CHECK(fdt_setprop(fdt, offset, "prop-int", &x, sizeof(x)));

 	CHECK(fdt_pack(fdt));

diff --git a/tests/setprop.c b/tests/setprop.c
index 6695edf..2997be0 100644
--- a/tests/setprop.c
+++ b/tests/setprop.c
@@ -39,6 +39,7 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	uint32_t *intp;
 	char *strp;
 	int err;
+	uint32_t x;

 	test_init(argc, argv);
 	fdt = load_blob_arg(argc, argv);
@@ -51,15 +52,16 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])

 	fdt = buf;

-	intp = check_getprop_typed(fdt, 0, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	intp = check_getprop(fdt, 0, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	verbose_printf("Old int value was 0x%08x\n", *intp);

-	err = fdt_setprop_string(fdt, 0, "prop-int", NEW_STRING);
+	err = fdt_setprop(fdt, 0, "prop-int", NEW_STRING, strlen(NEW_STRING)+1);
 	if (err)
 		FAIL("Failed to set \"prop-int\" to \"%s\": %s",
 		     NEW_STRING, fdt_strerror(err));

-	strp = check_getprop_string(fdt, 0, "prop-int", NEW_STRING);
+	strp = check_getprop(fdt, 0, "prop-int", strlen(NEW_STRING)+1, NEW_STRING);
 	verbose_printf("New value is \"%s\"\n", strp);

 	strp = check_getprop(fdt, 0, "prop-str", strlen(TEST_STRING_1)+1,
diff --git a/tests/setprop_inplace.c b/tests/setprop_inplace.c
index be420a9..2ac7a01 100644
--- a/tests/setprop_inplace.c
+++ b/tests/setprop_inplace.c
@@ -36,18 +36,23 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	char *strp, *xstr;
 	int xlen, i;
 	int err;
+	uint32_t x;

 	test_init(argc, argv);
 	fdt = load_blob_arg(argc, argv);

-	intp = check_getprop_typed(fdt, 0, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	intp = check_getprop(fdt, 0, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	verbose_printf("Old int value was 0x%08x\n", *intp);
-	err = fdt_setprop_inplace_typed(fdt, 0, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(~TEST_VALUE_1));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(~TEST_VALUE_1);
+	err = fdt_setprop_inplace(fdt, 0, "prop-int", &x, sizeof(x));
+
 	if (err)
 		FAIL("Failed to set \"prop-int\" to 0x08%x: %s",
 		     cpu_to_fdt32(~TEST_VALUE_1), fdt_strerror(err));
-	intp = check_getprop_typed(fdt, 0, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(~TEST_VALUE_1));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(~TEST_VALUE_1);
+	intp = check_getprop(fdt, 0, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);
 	verbose_printf("New int value is 0x%08x\n", *intp);

 	strp = check_getprop(fdt, 0, "prop-str", strlen(TEST_STRING_1)+1,
diff --git a/tests/subnode_offset.c b/tests/subnode_offset.c
index 8cc2d7c..311c5cd 100644
--- a/tests/subnode_offset.c
+++ b/tests/subnode_offset.c
@@ -38,7 +38,7 @@ int check_subnode(struct fdt_header *fdt, int parent, const char *name)
 	verbose_printf("offset %d...", offset);
 	if (offset < 0)
 		FAIL("fdt_subnode_offset(\"%s\"): %s", name, fdt_strerror(offset));
-	nh = fdt_offset_ptr_typed(fdt, offset, nh);
+	nh = fdt_offset_ptr(fdt, offset, sizeof(*nh));
 	verbose_printf("pointer %p\n", nh);
 	if (! nh)
 		FAIL("NULL retrieving subnode \"%s\"", name);
@@ -59,6 +59,7 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	void *fdt;
 	int subnode1_offset, subnode2_offset;
 	int subsubnode1_offset, subsubnode2_offset;
+	uint32_t x;

 	test_init(argc, argv);
 	fdt = load_blob_arg(argc, argv);
@@ -69,14 +70,20 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	if (subnode1_offset == subnode2_offset)
 		FAIL("Different subnodes have same offset");

-	check_property_typed(fdt, subnode1_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1));
-	check_property_typed(fdt, subnode2_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	check_property(fdt, subnode1_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);
+
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	check_property(fdt, subnode2_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	subsubnode1_offset = check_subnode(fdt, subnode1_offset, "subsubnode");
 	subsubnode2_offset = check_subnode(fdt, subnode2_offset, "subsubnode");

-	check_property_typed(fdt, subsubnode1_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1));
-	check_property_typed(fdt, subsubnode2_offset, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	check_property(fdt, subsubnode1_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);
+
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	check_property(fdt, subsubnode2_offset, "prop-int", sizeof(x), &x);

 	PASS();
 }
diff --git a/tests/sw_tree1.c b/tests/sw_tree1.c
index 198425b..c539beb 100644
--- a/tests/sw_tree1.c
+++ b/tests/sw_tree1.c
@@ -42,6 +42,7 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
 {
 	void *fdt;
 	int err;
+	uint32_t x;

 	test_init(argc, argv);

@@ -50,20 +51,25 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])

 	CHECK(fdt_finish_reservemap(fdt));
 	CHECK(fdt_begin_node(fdt, ""));
-	CHECK(fdt_property_typed(fdt, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1)));
-	CHECK(fdt_property_string(fdt, "prop-str", TEST_STRING_1));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	CHECK(fdt_property(fdt, "prop-int", &x, sizeof(x)));
+	CHECK(fdt_property(fdt, "prop-str", TEST_STRING_1, strlen(TEST_STRING_1)+1));

 	CHECK(fdt_begin_node(fdt, "subnode1"));
-	CHECK(fdt_property_typed(fdt, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1)));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	CHECK(fdt_property(fdt, "prop-int", &x, sizeof(x)));
 	CHECK(fdt_begin_node(fdt, "subsubnode"));
-	CHECK(fdt_property_typed(fdt, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1)));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_1);
+	CHECK(fdt_property(fdt, "prop-int", &x, sizeof(x)));
 	CHECK(fdt_end_node(fdt));
 	CHECK(fdt_end_node(fdt));

 	CHECK(fdt_begin_node(fdt, "subnode2"));
-	CHECK(fdt_property_typed(fdt, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2)));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	CHECK(fdt_property(fdt, "prop-int", &x, sizeof(x)));
 	CHECK(fdt_begin_node(fdt, "subsubnode"));
-	CHECK(fdt_property_typed(fdt, "prop-int", cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2)));
+	x = cpu_to_fdt32(TEST_VALUE_2);
+	CHECK(fdt_property(fdt, "prop-int", &x, sizeof(x)));
 	CHECK(fdt_end_node(fdt));
 	CHECK(fdt_end_node(fdt));

diff --git a/tests/test_tree1.dts b/tests/test_tree1.dts
index ab62772..87af282 100644
--- a/tests/test_tree1.dts
+++ b/tests/test_tree1.dts
@@ -6,18 +6,18 @@
 	/*
 	 * Test nodes and values...
 	 */
-	prop_int = <deadbeef>;
-	prop_str = "hello world";
+	prop-int = <deadbeef>;
+	prop-str = "hello world";
 	subnode1 {
-		prop_int = <deadbeef>;
+		prop-int = <deadbeef>;
 		subsubnode {
-			prop_int = <deadbeef>;
+			prop-int = <deadbeef>;
 		};
 	};
 	subnode2 {
-		prop_int = <abcd1234>;
+		prop-int = <abcd1234>;
 		subsubnode {
-			prop_int = <abcd1234>;
+			prop-int = <abcd1234>;
 		};
 	};
 };
diff --git a/tests/tests.h b/tests/tests.h
index b262e31..b99d6cb 100644
--- a/tests/tests.h
+++ b/tests/tests.h
@@ -110,22 +110,9 @@ static inline void *xrealloc(void *p, size_t size)

 void check_property(void *fdt, int nodeoffset, const char *name,
 		    int len, const void *val);
-#define check_property_typed(fdt, nodeoffset, name, val) \
-	({ \
-		typeof(val) x = val; \
-		check_property(fdt, nodeoffset, name, sizeof(x), &x); \
-	})
-

 void *check_getprop(void *fdt, int nodeoffset, const char *name,
 		    int len, const void *val);
-#define check_getprop_typed(fdt, nodeoffset, name, val) \
-	({ \
-		typeof(val) x = val; \
-		check_getprop(fdt, nodeoffset, name, sizeof(x), &x); \
-	})
-#define check_getprop_string(fdt, nodeoffset, name, s) \
-	check_getprop((fdt), (nodeoffset), (name), strlen(s)+1, (s))
 //void *load_blob(const char *filename);
 void *load_blob_arg(int argc, char *argv[]);
 void save_blob(const char *filename, void *blob);
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Re: libfdt: a fix but still broken

[Jerry Van Baren]

Jerry Van Baren wrote:
> David Gibson wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:27:29AM -0500, Jerry Van Baren wrote:
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> I have good news and bad news. ;-)  The good news is that the 
>>> incompatibility between libfdt and jdl's dtc is that libfdt has the 
>>> name offset and the length of the name switched.  
>>> booting_without_of.txt says the length comes first, so libfdt is in 
>>> the wrong.
>>
>> Ouch.  That's.. a very embarrassing bug.  Actually, I know where it
>> came from: I was looking at flat_dt.h from dtc, which also gets this
>> wrong (but the declaration in question is unused).  Of course, I also
>> wrote flat_dt.h ...
>>
>>> The bad news is that, when I fix this, nearly all of the tests fail 
>>> (but they fail the same way for both tree.S and jdl's dtc).  I have 
>>> not started on that layer of the onion yet.
>>
>> Found it, there was a direct use of the position of the length in
>> _fdt_next_tag().  Just pushed out a fix for this in the libfdt tree,
>> along with some other small fixes which I found while tracking this
>> one down.
>>
>> Oh, incidentally, I applied your patch by eye rather than with
>> patch(1), which was handy, because it appears to have been whitespace
>> damaged.
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> Sorry about the whitespace, I actually generated it at home, emailed it 
> to my day job, and edited and forwarded it from there (I'm not 
> subscribed at home - probably should be).
> 
> It sounds like we found and fixed the same bug last night.
> 
> I went quite a bit further (before finding and fixing the real bug).  I 
> was looking at the *_type "function like" #defines that generate a 
> temporary variable of indeterminate (until compile time) type.  An example:
> 
> #define fdt_setprop_inplace_typed(fdt, nodeoffset, name, val) \
>     ({ \
>         typeof(val) x = val; \
>         fdt_setprop_inplace(fdt, nodeoffset, name, &x, sizeof(x)); \
>     })
> 
> IMHO this is borderline evil and unnecessary, and I removed all of them 
> by replacing the call of the *_type macros with the equivalent actual 
> function.  What I was suspicious of is when I changed all the calls to 
> use proper endian by calling cpu_to_fdt32(), the parameter "val" is no 
> longer a simple constant or variable but is, instead, a function call or 
> macro or nothing at all, depending on the host endian and compiler 
> implementation.  It turns out that this apparently wasn't a problem, but 
> I'm still of the opinion that those #defines have minimal value and 
> makes the code baroque. ;-)
> 
> I've attached a patch file that shouldn't be whitespace damaged this 
> time.  :-/  I can also make my git repository accessible if that is 
> helpful.
> 
> Best regards,
> gvb

Hi David,

I exposed my git repository for my hacks on libfdt:
<http://www.cideas.us/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=linux/libfdt.git;a=summary>

BTW, a patch I didn't publish (yet)added some comments:
<http://www.cideas.us/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=linux/libfdt.git;a=commitdiff;h=775fee94444b4cda010e3d55f8c2aa1a0efe8856>

I also neglected to mention that, in the patch that was attached to the 
parent email, I added a configuration option to tests/Makefile to more 
easily select trees.S vs. dtc (now it is just ugly instead of fugly).

Best regards,
gvb

Re: libfdt: a fix but still broken

[Jon Loeliger]

So, like, the other day David Gibson mumbled:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:27:29AM -0500, Jerry Van Baren wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> > 
> > I have good news and bad news. ;-)  The good news is that the 
> > incompatibility between libfdt and jdl's dtc is that libfdt has the name 
> > offset and the length of the name switched.  booting_without_of.txt says 
> > the length comes first, so libfdt is in the wrong.
> 
> Ouch.  That's.. a very embarrassing bug.  Actually, I know where it
> came from: I was looking at flat_dt.h from dtc, which also gets this
> wrong (but the declaration in question is unused).  Of course, I also
> wrote flat_dt.h ...
> 
> > The bad news is that, when I fix this, nearly all of the tests fail (but 
> > they fail the same way for both tree.S and jdl's dtc).  I have not 
> > started on that layer of the onion yet.
> 
> Found it, there was a direct use of the position of the length in
> _fdt_next_tag().  Just pushed out a fix for this in the libfdt tree,
> along with some other small fixes which I found while tracking this
> one down.
> 
> Oh, incidentally, I applied your patch by eye rather than with
> patch(1), which was handy, because it appears to have been whitespace
> damaged.

And amidst all of this, is there an actual DTC change needed?
I've not detected one yet, but I'm watching... :-)

jdl

Re: libfdt: a fix but still broken

[Jerry Van Baren]

Jon Loeliger wrote:
> So, like, the other day David Gibson mumbled:
>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:27:29AM -0500, Jerry Van Baren wrote:
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> I have good news and bad news. ;-)  The good news is that the 
>>> incompatibility between libfdt and jdl's dtc is that libfdt has the name 
>>> offset and the length of the name switched.  booting_without_of.txt says 
>>> the length comes first, so libfdt is in the wrong.
>> Ouch.  That's.. a very embarrassing bug.  Actually, I know where it
>> came from: I was looking at flat_dt.h from dtc, which also gets this
>> wrong (but the declaration in question is unused).  Of course, I also
>> wrote flat_dt.h ...
>>
>>> The bad news is that, when I fix this, nearly all of the tests fail (but 
>>> they fail the same way for both tree.S and jdl's dtc).  I have not 
>>> started on that layer of the onion yet.
>> Found it, there was a direct use of the position of the length in
>> _fdt_next_tag().  Just pushed out a fix for this in the libfdt tree,
>> along with some other small fixes which I found while tracking this
>> one down.
>>
>> Oh, incidentally, I applied your patch by eye rather than with
>> patch(1), which was handy, because it appears to have been whitespace
>> damaged.
> 
> And amidst all of this, is there an actual DTC change needed?
> I've not detected one yet, but I'm watching... :-)
> 
> jdl

Hi Jon,

Your dtc is the "gold standard."  Gold doesn't tarnish.  ;-)

David's libfdt supports version 17 that dtc doesn't - I'm not sure where 
version 17 came from, David or elsewhere.  Version 17 adds one more size 
to the blob header structure and is suppose to be backward compatible 
with version 16. (A couple of the current libfdt tests fail when run 
against a dtc-generated version 16 blob - don't know where the fault 
lies yet.)

Best regards,
gvb

Re: libfdt: a fix but still broken

[David Gibson]

On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 07:59:16AM -0500, Jerry Van Baren wrote:
> David Gibson wrote:
> >On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:27:29AM -0500, Jerry Van Baren wrote:
> >>Hi Dave,
> >>
> >>I have good news and bad news. ;-)  The good news is that the 
> >>incompatibility between libfdt and jdl's dtc is that libfdt has the name 
> >>offset and the length of the name switched.  booting_without_of.txt says 
> >>the length comes first, so libfdt is in the wrong.
> >
> >Ouch.  That's.. a very embarrassing bug.  Actually, I know where it
> >came from: I was looking at flat_dt.h from dtc, which also gets this
> >wrong (but the declaration in question is unused).  Of course, I also
> >wrote flat_dt.h ...
> >
> >>The bad news is that, when I fix this, nearly all of the tests fail (but 
> >>they fail the same way for both tree.S and jdl's dtc).  I have not 
> >>started on that layer of the onion yet.
> >
> >Found it, there was a direct use of the position of the length in
> >_fdt_next_tag().  Just pushed out a fix for this in the libfdt tree,
> >along with some other small fixes which I found while tracking this
> >one down.
> >
> >Oh, incidentally, I applied your patch by eye rather than with
> >patch(1), which was handy, because it appears to have been whitespace
> >damaged.
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> Sorry about the whitespace, I actually generated it at home, emailed it 
> to my day job, and edited and forwarded it from there (I'm not 
> subscribed at home - probably should be).
> 
> It sounds like we found and fixed the same bug last night.
> 
> I went quite a bit further (before finding and fixing the real bug).  I 
> was looking at the *_type "function like" #defines that generate a 
> temporary variable of indeterminate (until compile time) type.  An example:
> 
> #define fdt_setprop_inplace_typed(fdt, nodeoffset, name, val) \
> 	({ \
> 		typeof(val) x = val; \
> 		fdt_setprop_inplace(fdt, nodeoffset, name, &x, sizeof(x)); \
> 	})
> 
> IMHO this is borderline evil and unnecessary, and I removed all of them 
> by replacing the call of the *_type macros with the equivalent actual 
> function.  What I was suspicious of is when I changed all the calls to 
> use proper endian by calling cpu_to_fdt32(), the parameter "val" is no 
> longer a simple constant or variable but is, instead, a function call or 
> macro or nothing at all, depending on the host endian and compiler 
> implementation.  It turns out that this apparently wasn't a problem, but 
> I'm still of the opinion that those #defines have minimal value and 
> makes the code baroque. ;-)

Um, I'm afraid I don't agree.  I think those typed versions make the
code using them clearer and simpler.  In fact, one of their main uses
is to be used with functions or literals directly as the argument,
which isn't possible with the raw versions, because they need to take
an address.

Now, actually, that macro *is* broken, because there should be parens
around all the macro arguments, but you'll need to work much harder to
convince me the concept is broken.

> I've attached a patch file that shouldn't be whitespace damaged this 
> time.  :-/  I can also make my git repository accessible if that is helpful.

Gah.  I really hate saying this, but please don't send me patches
until I have the situation sorted out with legal better.  I took the
last one partly because it was so broken without it, but also because
it was so trivial that even IBM's paranoid interpretation regards it
as too small to be copyrightable.

-- 
David Gibson			| I'll have my music baroque, and my code
david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au	| minimalist, thank you.  NOT _the_ _other_
				| _way_ _around_!
http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson

Re: libfdt: a fix but still broken

[David Gibson]

On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 09:08:16AM -0600, Jon Loeliger wrote:
> So, like, the other day David Gibson mumbled:
> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:27:29AM -0500, Jerry Van Baren wrote:
> > > Hi Dave,
> > > 
> > > I have good news and bad news. ;-)  The good news is that the 
> > > incompatibility between libfdt and jdl's dtc is that libfdt has the name 
> > > offset and the length of the name switched.  booting_without_of.txt says 
> > > the length comes first, so libfdt is in the wrong.
> > 
> > Ouch.  That's.. a very embarrassing bug.  Actually, I know where it
> > came from: I was looking at flat_dt.h from dtc, which also gets this
> > wrong (but the declaration in question is unused).  Of course, I also
> > wrote flat_dt.h ...
> > 
> > > The bad news is that, when I fix this, nearly all of the tests fail (but 
> > > they fail the same way for both tree.S and jdl's dtc).  I have not 
> > > started on that layer of the onion yet.
> > 
> > Found it, there was a direct use of the position of the length in
> > _fdt_next_tag().  Just pushed out a fix for this in the libfdt tree,
> > along with some other small fixes which I found while tracking this
> > one down.
> > 
> > Oh, incidentally, I applied your patch by eye rather than with
> > patch(1), which was handy, because it appears to have been whitespace
> > damaged.
> 
> And amidst all of this, is there an actual DTC change needed?
> I've not detected one yet, but I'm watching... :-)

We need to fix flat_dt.h so it doesn't mislead anyone else.  The
structure in question is never used in dtc, so in fact the fix won't
change anything in the object code.

-- 
David Gibson			| I'll have my music baroque, and my code
david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au	| minimalist, thank you.  NOT _the_ _other_
				| _way_ _around_!
http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson

Re: libfdt: a fix but still broken

[David Gibson]

On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 10:21:58AM -0500, Jerry Van Baren wrote:
> Jon Loeliger wrote:
> > So, like, the other day David Gibson mumbled:
> >> On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:27:29AM -0500, Jerry Van Baren wrote:
> >>> Hi Dave,
> >>>
> >>> I have good news and bad news. ;-)  The good news is that the 
> >>> incompatibility between libfdt and jdl's dtc is that libfdt has the name 
> >>> offset and the length of the name switched.  booting_without_of.txt says 
> >>> the length comes first, so libfdt is in the wrong.
> >> Ouch.  That's.. a very embarrassing bug.  Actually, I know where it
> >> came from: I was looking at flat_dt.h from dtc, which also gets this
> >> wrong (but the declaration in question is unused).  Of course, I also
> >> wrote flat_dt.h ...
> >>
> >>> The bad news is that, when I fix this, nearly all of the tests fail (but 
> >>> they fail the same way for both tree.S and jdl's dtc).  I have not 
> >>> started on that layer of the onion yet.
> >> Found it, there was a direct use of the position of the length in
> >> _fdt_next_tag().  Just pushed out a fix for this in the libfdt tree,
> >> along with some other small fixes which I found while tracking this
> >> one down.
> >>
> >> Oh, incidentally, I applied your patch by eye rather than with
> >> patch(1), which was handy, because it appears to have been whitespace
> >> damaged.
> > 
> > And amidst all of this, is there an actual DTC change needed?
> > I've not detected one yet, but I'm watching... :-)
> > 
> > jdl
> 
> Hi Jon,
> 
> Your dtc is the "gold standard."  Gold doesn't tarnish.  ;-)

No, the kernel's parser is the gold standard.

> David's libfdt supports version 17 that dtc doesn't - I'm not sure where 
> version 17 came from, David or elsewhere.  Version 17 adds one more size 
> to the blob header structure and is suppose to be backward compatible 
> with version 16. (A couple of the current libfdt tests fail when run 
> against a dtc-generated version 16 blob - don't know where the fault 
> lies yet.)

Version 17 is my invention, though the extension in question was also
planned by BenH.  And yes, V17 needs to be documented in
booting-without-of.txt and support needs to go into dtc.

The V17 extension allows us to do resizing modifications to the device
tree without having to allocate an extra context structure somewhere.
Your testcase failures are probably because the fdt_rw.c functions are
incapable of operating on a V16 tree.  fdt_open_into() is supposed to
convert a V16 tree into a V17 tree with the correct layout, allowing
those functions to operate, but I haven't gotten around to
implementing it yet.

Incidentally, jdl took over maintainership of dtc from me when I went
on extended leave last year, but the bulk of it is my code.

-- 
David Gibson			| I'll have my music baroque, and my code
david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au	| minimalist, thank you.  NOT _the_ _other_
				| _way_ _around_!
http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson