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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	mingo@elte.hu, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org
Subject: Re: [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:45:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070307094503.GD8609@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1173259942.6374.125.camel@twins>

On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 10:32:22AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 01:07 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:51:57 +0100 Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Dirty page accounting doesn't work either on
> > > > > non-linear mappings
> > > > 
> > > > It doesn't?  Confused - these things don't have anything to do with each
> > > > other do they?
> > > 
> > > Look in page_mkclean().  Where does it handle non-linear mappings?
> > > 
> > 
> > OK, I'd forgotten about that.  It won't break dirty memory accounting,
> > but it'll potentially break dirty memory balancing.
> > 
> > If we have the wrong page (due to nonlinear), page_check_address() will
> > fail and we'll leave the pte dirty.  That puts us back to the pre-2.6.17
> > algorithms and I guess it'll break the msync guarantees.
> > 
> > Peter, I thought we went through the nonlinear problem ages ago and decided
> > it was OK?
> 
> Can recollect as much, I modelled it after page_referenced() and can't
> find any VM_NONLINEAR specific code in there either.
> 
> Will have a hard look, but if its broken, then page_referenced if
> equally broken it seems, which would make page reclaim funny in the
> light of nonlinear mappings.

page_referenced is just an heuristic, and it ignores nonlinear mappings
and the page which will get filtered down to try_to_unmap.

Page reclaim is already "funny" for nonlinear mappings, page_referenced
is the least of its worries ;) It works, though.



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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	mingo@elte.hu, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org
Subject: Re: [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:45:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070307094503.GD8609@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1173259942.6374.125.camel@twins>

On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 10:32:22AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 01:07 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:51:57 +0100 Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Dirty page accounting doesn't work either on
> > > > > non-linear mappings
> > > > 
> > > > It doesn't?  Confused - these things don't have anything to do with each
> > > > other do they?
> > > 
> > > Look in page_mkclean().  Where does it handle non-linear mappings?
> > > 
> > 
> > OK, I'd forgotten about that.  It won't break dirty memory accounting,
> > but it'll potentially break dirty memory balancing.
> > 
> > If we have the wrong page (due to nonlinear), page_check_address() will
> > fail and we'll leave the pte dirty.  That puts us back to the pre-2.6.17
> > algorithms and I guess it'll break the msync guarantees.
> > 
> > Peter, I thought we went through the nonlinear problem ages ago and decided
> > it was OK?
> 
> Can recollect as much, I modelled it after page_referenced() and can't
> find any VM_NONLINEAR specific code in there either.
> 
> Will have a hard look, but if its broken, then page_referenced if
> equally broken it seems, which would make page reclaim funny in the
> light of nonlinear mappings.

page_referenced is just an heuristic, and it ignores nonlinear mappings
and the page which will get filtered down to try_to_unmap.

Page reclaim is already "funny" for nonlinear mappings, page_referenced
is the least of its worries ;) It works, though.


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Thread overview: 198+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-21  4:49 [patch 0/6] fault vs truncate/invalidate race fix Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:49 ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:49 ` [patch 1/6] mm: debug check for the fault vs invalidate race Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:49   ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:49 ` [patch 2/6] mm: simplify filemap_nopage Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:49   ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 3/6] mm: fix fault vs invalidate race for linear mappings Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  6:36   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  6:36     ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  6:57     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  6:57       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  7:08       ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  7:08         ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  7:25         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  7:25           ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  6:51   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  6:51     ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  7:08     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  7:08       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:19       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:19         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  8:27           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  8:35           ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  8:35             ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  8:53             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  8:53               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:28               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:28                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:44                 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:44                   ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:49                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:49                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:02                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:02                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-12 23:01                       ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-12 23:01                         ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-13  1:19                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13  1:19                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-17 12:17                           ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-17 12:17                             ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-18  2:50                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-18  2:50                               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-18 13:09                               ` Jeff Dike
2007-03-18 13:09                                 ` Jeff Dike
2007-03-19 12:04                               ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-19 12:04                                 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-19 20:44                               ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-19 20:44                                 ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-20  6:00                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-20  6:00                                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-21 19:45                                   ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-21 19:45                                     ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-08 12:39                   ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-08 12:39                     ` Blaisorblade
2007-03-07  9:29             ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:29               ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:39               ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  9:39                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 10:09                 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 10:09                   ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  8:38           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  8:38             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  8:47             ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  8:47               ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  8:51               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  8:51                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:07                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  9:07                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  9:18                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:18                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:26                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  9:26                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07  9:28                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:28                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:38                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:38                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:25                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:25                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07  9:32                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07  9:32                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07  9:45                     ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-03-07  9:45                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:04                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:04                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:06                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:06                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:13                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 10:13                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 10:21                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:21                               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:24                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:24                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:38                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:38                                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:47                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 10:47                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 11:00                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 11:00                                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 11:48                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 11:48                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 12:17                                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:17                                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:41                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 12:41                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:08                                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:08                                               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:19                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:19                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:36                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:36                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 13:52                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:52                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 13:56                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 13:56                                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 14:34                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 14:34                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 15:01                                                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 15:01                                                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 16:58                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH] mm: fix page_mkclean() vs non-linear vmas Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 16:58                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:00                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-07 18:00                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-07 18:12                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:12                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:24                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-07 18:24                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 11:21                                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:21                                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:37                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 11:37                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 11:48                                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:48                                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 12:11                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 12:11                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-08 12:19                                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 12:19                                                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 12:25                                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 12:25                                                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 11:58                                                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 11:58                                                               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-08 12:09                                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-08 12:09                                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 15:10                                                     ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Jeff Dike
2007-03-07 15:10                                                       ` Jeff Dike
2007-03-07 13:53                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 13:53                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 14:50                                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 14:50                                                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:22                                       ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 12:22                                         ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 12:36                                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 12:36                                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:30                             ` [rfc][patch 7/6] mm: merge page_mkwrite Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:30                               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:59           ` [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear) Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  8:59             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:11             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:11               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:22             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:22               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:32               ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:32                 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:35                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07  9:50                   ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:50                     ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  9:52               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  9:52                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07  7:19     ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07  7:19       ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-07 10:05     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-07 10:05       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-07 10:17       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:17         ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-07 10:46         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-07 10:46           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 5/6] mm: merge nopfn into fault Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50   ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  5:13   ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  5:13     ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50 ` [patch 6/6] mm: remove legacy cruft Nick Piggin
2007-02-21  4:50   ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-27  4:36 ` [patch 0/6] fault vs truncate/invalidate race fix Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  4:36   ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  5:32   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-27  5:32     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-27  6:26     ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  6:26       ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  6:54       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-27  6:54         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-03-18 23:13         ` Dave Airlie
2007-03-18 23:13           ` Dave Airlie
2007-02-27  8:50     ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-27  8:50       ` Nick Piggin

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