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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paulus@samba.org,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Lameter <christoph@lameter.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Martin Bligh <mbligh@google.com>
Subject: Re: local_add_return
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:35:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081219033514.GA7162@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200812190922.57629.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

* Rusty Russell (rusty@rustcorp.com.au) wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 December 2008 10:31:55 Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > I think we have two different use-cases here :
> > 
> > - local_t is useful as-is for things such as a tracer, which need to
> >   modify an element of data atomically wrt local interrupts. The
> >   atomic_long_t, in this case, is the correct fallback.
> > - local_count_t could be used for fast counters.
> 
> Hi Mathieu,
> 
>    Complete agreement.
> 
>    I guess I'm biassed towards local_t == counter version, something else
> == nmi-safe version because that's what it was originally.  Looking through
> the tree, there are only 5 users: module, dmaengine and percpu_counter want
> a counter, and tracing and x86 nmi.c want nmi-safe.  There are several other
> places I know of which want local_t-the-counter.
> 
>    I'll prepare a patch which adds nmi_safe_t, and see how it looks.  There's
> no amazing hurry on this, so I won't race to hit the merge window.
> 

OK,

But can we turn what you call "nmi_safe_t" into "local_atomic_t" then ?
Because we have to specify that this type must only be used as part of
per-cpu data with preemption disabled, and we also specify that it is
atomic.

Plus, nmi_safe_t does not make much sense on architectures without NMIs,
where we sometimes disable interrupts to make the modification "atomic"
wrt all other interrupts that can happen.

Mathieu

> Thanks!
> Rusty.

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68

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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paulus@samba.org,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Lameter <christoph@lameter.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Martin Bligh <mbligh@google.com>
Subject: Re: local_add_return
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:35:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081219033514.GA7162@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200812190922.57629.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

* Rusty Russell (rusty@rustcorp.com.au) wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 December 2008 10:31:55 Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > I think we have two different use-cases here :
> > 
> > - local_t is useful as-is for things such as a tracer, which need to
> >   modify an element of data atomically wrt local interrupts. The
> >   atomic_long_t, in this case, is the correct fallback.
> > - local_count_t could be used for fast counters.
> 
> Hi Mathieu,
> 
>    Complete agreement.
> 
>    I guess I'm biassed towards local_t = counter version, something else
> = nmi-safe version because that's what it was originally.  Looking through
> the tree, there are only 5 users: module, dmaengine and percpu_counter want
> a counter, and tracing and x86 nmi.c want nmi-safe.  There are several other
> places I know of which want local_t-the-counter.
> 
>    I'll prepare a patch which adds nmi_safe_t, and see how it looks.  There's
> no amazing hurry on this, so I won't race to hit the merge window.
> 

OK,

But can we turn what you call "nmi_safe_t" into "local_atomic_t" then ?
Because we have to specify that this type must only be used as part of
per-cpu data with preemption disabled, and we also specify that it is
atomic.

Plus, nmi_safe_t does not make much sense on architectures without NMIs,
where we sometimes disable interrupts to make the modification "atomic"
wrt all other interrupts that can happen.

Mathieu

> Thanks!
> Rusty.

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-19  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-15 13:47 local_add_return Steven Rostedt
2008-12-16  6:33 ` local_add_return Rusty Russell
2008-12-16  6:57   ` local_add_return David Miller
2008-12-16  7:13   ` local_add_return David Miller
2008-12-16 22:38     ` local_add_return Rusty Russell
2008-12-16 22:50       ` local_add_return Rusty Russell
2008-12-16 23:25       ` local_add_return Luck, Tony
2008-12-16 23:25         ` local_add_return Luck, Tony
2008-12-16 23:43       ` local_add_return Heiko Carstens
2008-12-16 23:43         ` local_add_return Heiko Carstens
2008-12-16 23:59       ` local_add_return Eric Dumazet
2008-12-16 23:59         ` local_add_return Eric Dumazet
2008-12-17  0:01       ` local_add_return Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-12-17  0:01         ` local_add_return Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-12-18 22:52         ` local_add_return Rusty Russell
2008-12-18 22:53           ` local_add_return Rusty Russell
2008-12-19  3:35           ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2008-12-19  3:35             ` local_add_return Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-12-19  5:54             ` local_add_return Rusty Russell
2008-12-19  5:54               ` local_add_return Rusty Russell
2008-12-19 17:06               ` local_add_return Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-12-19 17:06                 ` local_add_return Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-12-20  1:33                 ` local_add_return Rusty Russell
2008-12-20  1:45                   ` local_add_return Rusty Russell
2008-12-20  1:33                   ` local_add_return Rusty Russell
2008-12-22 18:43                   ` local_add_return Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-12-22 18:43                     ` local_add_return Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-12-24 11:42                     ` local_add_return Rusty Russell
2008-12-24 11:54                       ` local_add_return Rusty Russell
2008-12-24 18:53                       ` local_add_return Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-12-24 18:53                         ` local_add_return Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-12-16 16:25   ` local_add_return Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-12-17 11:23     ` local_add_return Rusty Russell

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