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From: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: oleg@redhat.com, roland@redhat.com, bastian@waldi.eu.org,
	daniel@hozac.com, xemul@openvz.org, containers@lists.osdl.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sukadev@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/6][v3] Container-init signal semantics
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:47:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081222194737.GC9085@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1wsds5vij.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org>

Eric W. Biederman [ebiederm@xmission.com] wrote:
| Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
| 
| > This patchset implements the design/simplified semantics suggested by
| > Oleg Nesterov.  The simplified semantics for container-init are:
| >
| > 	- container-init must never be terminated by a signal from a
| > 	  descendant process.
| >
| > 	- container-init must never be immune to SIGKILL from an ancestor
| > 	  namespace (so a process in parent namespace must always be able
| > 	  to terminate a descendant container).
| >
| > 	- container-init may be immune to unhandled fatal signals (like
| > 	  SIGUSR1) even if they are from ancestor namespace (SIGKILL is
| > 	  the only reliable signal from ancestor namespace).
| 
| It sounds you are still struggling to get something that works and gets
| done what needs to be done.  So let me suggest a simplified semantic that
| should be easier to implement and test, and solves the biggest problem
| that we must solve in the kernel.
| 
| - container-init ignores SIGKILL and SIGSTOP.

Yes.

| 
| - container-init is responsible for setting the rest of the signals
|   to SIG_IGN.

Oleg pointed out that we could drop SIG_DFL signals to global init early
to ensure wait_for_completion_killable/lock_page_killable don't incorrectly
believe that a fatal signal is pending. (patch 2/6).

If that patch is valid regardless of containers, it would be a minor
extension to get container-inits to drop SIG_DFL signals too, right ?

So the bigger problem/unknown for me is the sig_from_user() in patch 4/6
(i.e determining if it safe to deref the pid-ns of sender). We went from
!in_interrupt() to the SIG_FROM_USER flag to this.

If that is correct, I am hoping it would come down to opitmizing the code
if possible (eg: can/should we avoid passing same_ns into sig_ignored()

There is probably some ugliness :-) but do you see any other correctness 
issues ?

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-22 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-21  0:51 [RFC][PATCH 0/6][v3] Container-init signal semantics Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-21  0:52 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/6][v3] Remove 'handler' parameter to tracehook functions Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-23 19:30   ` Roland McGrath
2008-12-21  0:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/6][v3] Protect init from unwanted signals more Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]   ` <20081221005319.GB5025-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-23 19:31     ` Roland McGrath
2008-12-23 19:31       ` Roland McGrath
     [not found] ` <20081221005106.GA4912-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-21  0:53   ` [RFC][PATCH 3/6][v3] Define/set SIGNAL_UNKILLABLE_FROM_NS Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-21  0:53     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-21  0:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/6][v3] Define siginfo_from_ancestor_ns() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-22 22:26   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]     ` <20081222222604.GA1536-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-22 23:01       ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-22 23:01         ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-22 23:58         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-23  0:22           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]             ` <20081223002215.GA7984-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-23  0:32               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-12-23  0:32                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-12-23  4:47                 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-22 23:45     ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-22 23:54       ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-21  0:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/6][v3] Protect cinit from unblocked SIG_DFL signals Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-22 22:46   ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-21  0:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6][v3] Protect cinit from blocked fatal signals Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]   ` <20081221005529.GF5025-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-22 22:58     ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-22 22:58       ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-22 23:38       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]         ` <20081222233855.GA13079-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-23  0:03           ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-23  0:03             ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-22 10:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6][v3] Container-init signal semantics Eric W. Biederman
2008-12-22 19:47   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu [this message]
     [not found]     ` <20081222194737.GC9085-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-12-23  0:27       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-12-23  0:27         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-12-23  2:12         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-23 16:51 ` Serge E. Hallyn

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