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From: Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>
To: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: smp.c && barriers (Was: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many())
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:28:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090220232827.GB10797@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1235156214.14523.54.camel@vayu>

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:56:54AM -0800, Suresh Siddha wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 02:56 -0800, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 04:20 -0800, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > > Could you please refresh this patch to latest tip:master? The 
> > > > APIC drivers moved to arch/x86/kernel/apic/.
> > > 
> > > Appended the refreshed patch. Thanks.
> > 
> > thanks. Two details i noticed:
> > 
> > Firstly:
> > 
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/apic/x2apic_cluster.c
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/apic/x2apic_phys.c
> > 
> > how about x2apic_uv.c? It uses uv_write_global_mmr64() in its 
> > IPI sending method, which uses:
> > 
> > static inline void uv_write_global_mmr64(int pnode, unsigned long offset,
> >                                 unsigned long val)
> > {
> >         *uv_global_mmr64_address(pnode, offset) = val;
> > }
> > 
> > which uses ->mmr_base, which is mapped via:
> > 
> >         init_extra_mapping_uc(UV_LOCAL_MMR_BASE, UV_LOCAL_MMR_SIZE);
> >
> > so it should be fine because uncached - but at minimum we should 
> > put a comment into x2apic_uv.c that the generic IPI code relies 
> > on the lowlevel code serializing - i.e. relies on the UC PAT 
> > attribute.
> 
> Oops. I forgot to mention that and copy Jack to confirm our
> understanding. I can send a followup patch adding the comments for UV.
> Jack, are you ok?

Yes. Looks ok to me.


> 
> > 
> > Secondly, you added smp_mb(), which will translate to an MFENCE. 
> > 
> > But in theory it should be enough to have a wmb() here. [Note, 
> > not an smp_wmb() that i suggested before.] That will translate 
> > to an SFENCE - which will serialize writes but still allows 
> > reads/prefetches to pass.
> > 
> > So the question is, is an SFENCE there enough to serialize the 
> > WRMSR with previous memory-writes? It's not specified in the 
> > x2apic docs as far as i could see.
> 
> No. sfence is not enough (wrmsr to x2apic regs was still passing ahead).
> We have done a small experiment to demonstrate the issue and adding
> mfence fixes the issue but not sfence. We need a serializing instruction
> or mfence. I will try to get the SDM updated.
> 
> thanks,
> suresh

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-20 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-16 16:38 [PATCH 0/4] generic smp helpers vs kmalloc Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 16:38 ` [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many() Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 19:10   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 19:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 20:30       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 20:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 21:22           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 12:25     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 20:49   ` Q: smp.c && barriers (Was: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many()) Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 21:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 21:32       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 21:45         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 22:02           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-16 22:24             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 23:19               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17  9:29                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 10:11                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-17 10:27                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 10:39                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-17 11:26                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-17 11:48                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 15:51                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-18  2:15                           ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18  2:40                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 19:28                         ` Q: " Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 21:32                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 21:45                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 22:39                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-18 13:52                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-18 16:09                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 16:21                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 16:21                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 16:21                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 16:33                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 16:58                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:05                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:10                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:17                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 17:23                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:14                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 17:47                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 18:33                                               ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 16:37                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-02-19  0:12                                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19  6:47                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-19 13:11                                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 15:06                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 21:49                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-18  2:21                         ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 13:59                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-18 16:19                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-18 16:23                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 18:43                             ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-18 19:17                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 23:55                                 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-19 12:20                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 12:29                                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 12:45                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 22:00                                     ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-20 10:56                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 18:56                                         ` Suresh Siddha
2009-02-20 19:40                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 23:28                                           ` Jack Steiner [this message]
2009-02-25  3:32                                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-25 12:47                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-25 18:25                                             ` Luck, Tony
2009-03-17 18:16                                             ` Suresh Siddha
2009-03-18  8:51                                               ` [tip:x86/x2apic] x86: add x2apic_wrmsr_fence() to x2apic flush tlb paths Suresh Siddha
2009-02-17 12:40                   ` Q: smp.c && barriers (Was: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many()) Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 15:43                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 15:40   ` [PATCH] generic-smp: remove kmalloc() Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 17:21     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 17:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 17:46         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 18:30           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 19:29         ` [PATCH -v4] generic-ipi: " Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 20:02           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 20:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 20:16               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 20:44                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 20:49                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 22:09                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-17 22:15                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 21:30           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-02-17 21:38             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 16:38 ` [PATCH 2/4] generic-smp: remove kmalloc usage Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17  0:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-17  8:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17  9:43       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-17  9:49         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-17 10:56           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18  4:50         ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-18 16:05           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19  0:00             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-19 12:21               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19  4:31             ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-19  9:10               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-19 11:04                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-02-19 16:52               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-17 15:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-16 16:38 ` [PATCH 3/4] generic-smp: properly allocate the cpumasks Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 23:17   ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-16 16:38 ` [PATCH 4/4] generic-smp: clean up some of the csd->flags fiddling Peter Zijlstra

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