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From: Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>,
	Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] Bugs on aspire one A150
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:22:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090316212227.GA29471@rhlx01.hs-esslingen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5htz5tyzyg.wl%tiwai@suse.de>

Hi,

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:28:39PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:06:38 +0100,
> Andreas Mohr wrote:
> > I just tried connecting a headset and switching to E-Mic.
> > What I can say is:
> > - opposite levels does NOT happen there (E-Mic is "analog micro"-based, right?)
> > - leaving E-Mic unplugged will actually record from i-Mic (due to properly
> >   working EAPD mechanism, right?)
> 
> The record from mic-jack is via analog path.  The phase-inversion
> appears only for digital-mic, AFAIK.

Thought so.

> > One question still: is this a hardware defect (i.e. could this possibly
> > be swapped cables of the microphone connector in this model or so?
> > Not plausible but...), or is this an existing property
> > of the HDA's dig-mic base? You indicated it's the latter I think...
> 
> My guess is that it's a hardware implementation.
> Maybe for the noise suppression via mic array.

Not sure what this means.

> The question is whether the left / right channels recorded from
> digital mic are really raw data, or they are for modified data
> (for differential, etc)...  It's hard to guess without the actual
> data.

I don't quite follow you here. Is there anything I could do about this?

Thanks,

Andreas

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From: Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>,
	Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
	Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bugs on aspire one A150
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:22:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090316212227.GA29471@rhlx01.hs-esslingen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5htz5tyzyg.wl%tiwai@suse.de>

Hi,

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:28:39PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:06:38 +0100,
> Andreas Mohr wrote:
> > I just tried connecting a headset and switching to E-Mic.
> > What I can say is:
> > - opposite levels does NOT happen there (E-Mic is "analog micro"-based, right?)
> > - leaving E-Mic unplugged will actually record from i-Mic (due to properly
> >   working EAPD mechanism, right?)
> 
> The record from mic-jack is via analog path.  The phase-inversion
> appears only for digital-mic, AFAIK.

Thought so.

> > One question still: is this a hardware defect (i.e. could this possibly
> > be swapped cables of the microphone connector in this model or so?
> > Not plausible but...), or is this an existing property
> > of the HDA's dig-mic base? You indicated it's the latter I think...
> 
> My guess is that it's a hardware implementation.
> Maybe for the noise suppression via mic array.

Not sure what this means.

> The question is whether the left / right channels recorded from
> digital mic are really raw data, or they are for modified data
> (for differential, etc)...  It's hard to guess without the actual
> data.

I don't quite follow you here. Is there anything I could do about this?

Thanks,

Andreas

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-16 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 184+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-08  3:26 Bugs on aspire one A150 Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-08  3:26 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-08 11:57 ` Alan Jenkins
2008-11-08 11:57   ` Alan Jenkins
2008-11-09  0:52   ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-09  0:52   ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-09  0:52     ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-09  8:54     ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09  8:54       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 13:31       ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-09 13:31         ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-09 15:13       ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2008-11-09 15:13         ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-09 18:58         ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 18:58           ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 20:09           ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-09 20:09             ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-12 11:08             ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 11:08               ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 17:07               ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-12 17:07                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-12 18:05                 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2008-11-12 18:05                   ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-14 18:05                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-14 18:05                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-22 19:00                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-22 19:00                       ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-22 19:43                       ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-22 19:43                         ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-24 14:35                       ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2008-11-24 14:35                         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-15  9:21                         ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-15  9:21                           ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 12:03                           ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 12:03                             ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 12:09                             ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 12:09                               ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 13:30                               ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 13:30                                 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 14:18                                 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:18                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:31                                   ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 14:31                                     ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 14:42                                     ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:42                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:50                                       ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 14:50                                         ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 15:34                                         ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 15:34                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 16:02                                           ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 16:02                                             ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 16:06                                             ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 16:06                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 16:19                                               ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 16:19                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 17:00                                                 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 17:00                                                   ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 17:15                                                   ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 17:15                                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 17:30                                                     ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 17:30                                                       ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 17:34                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 17:34                                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 18:06                                                         ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 18:06                                                           ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 20:28                                                           ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 20:28                                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 21:22                                                             ` Andreas Mohr [this message]
2009-03-16 21:22                                                               ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17  0:52                                                               ` [alsa-devel] " Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17  0:52                                                                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17  7:57                                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17  7:57                                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 11:30                                                                   ` [alsa-devel] " Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17 11:30                                                                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17 12:52                                                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 12:52                                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17  7:57                                                               ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17  7:57                                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 10:05                                                                 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 10:05                                                                   ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 10:38                                                                   ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 10:38                                                                     ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 10:47                                                                     ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 10:47                                                                       ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 11:25                                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 11:25                                                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 16:18                                                                         ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 16:18                                                                           ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 20:32                                                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 20:32                                                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-18  9:05                                                                             ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-18  9:05                                                                               ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-18  9:19                                                                               ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-18  9:19                                                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-20 18:56                                                                                 ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-20 18:56                                                                                   ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-20 20:33                                                                                   ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2009-03-20 20:33                                                                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-22 12:55                                                                                     ` [alsa-devel] " Andreas Mohr
2009-03-22 12:55                                                                                       ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-23  6:51                                                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-23  6:51                                                                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 17:20               ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-12 17:20                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-12 18:53               ` HDA-emu 0.0.1 (Re: [alsa-devel] Bugs on aspire one A150) Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 18:53                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 10:43     ` Bugs on aspire one A150 Alan Jenkins
     [not found]     ` <49163435.20301-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-09 10:43       ` Alan Jenkins
2008-11-09 10:43         ` Alan Jenkins
2008-11-12 17:48         ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-12 17:48         ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-14 19:06   ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-14 19:06   ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-14 19:06     ` Maxim Levitsky
     [not found]     ` <491DCC21.6060705-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-14 19:59       ` Alan Jenkins
2008-11-14 19:59         ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]         ` <61b223ba0811141159k179558d0i60cebf373baa9fb8-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-15 12:52           ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-15 12:52             ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-15 12:55             ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-08 11:57 ` Alan Jenkins
2008-11-10 16:51 ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-10 16:51 ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-10 16:51   ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-10 21:33   ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-10 21:33   ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-10 21:33     ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-10 22:12     ` [ath5k-devel] " Nick Kossifidis
2008-11-10 22:12       ` Nick Kossifidis
2008-11-12 17:51       ` [ath5k-devel] " Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-13 14:58         ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-14  3:47         ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-14 18:57           ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-17 17:28             ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-17 18:55               ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-01 15:33       ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-01 15:33       ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-01 15:33         ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 13:28       ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 13:28         ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:08         ` Nick Kossifidis
2008-12-13 14:08           ` Nick Kossifidis
2008-12-13 14:36           ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:36             ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:38             ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:38               ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:38             ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:36           ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:08         ` Nick Kossifidis
2008-12-13 14:24         ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-13 14:31           ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-30  4:26           ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-30 12:43             ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-31  9:18               ` Andreas Mohr
2008-12-31 13:59                 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-12-31 14:06                   ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-31 14:03                 ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-31 16:51                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-01-01 13:41                     ` Andreas Mohr
2009-01-01 14:15                       ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-01-01 20:27                         ` Andreas Mohr
2009-01-01 15:09                       ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-13 13:28       ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-10 22:12     ` Nick Kossifidis
2008-12-13 13:15 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 13:15   ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 13:35   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-13 13:35     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-13 14:21     ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:21       ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 17:42       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-13 17:42       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-13 17:42         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-13 18:04         ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 18:04         ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 18:04           ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:21     ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 13:35   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-14 22:29   ` J.A. Magallón
2008-12-14 22:57   ` J.A. Magallón
2008-12-14 23:18     ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-14 23:24       ` J.A. Magallón
2008-12-14 23:35   ` J.A. Magallón
2008-12-13 13:15 ` Maxim Levitsky

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