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From: "Yoshinori K. Okuji" <okuji@enbug.org>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Migrating to GRUB 2 in Debian (Re: Interesting GSoC project ideas for 09)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:01:35 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200903221601.36503.okuji@enbug.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ca0f59980903142252i772f8725x2f39df8ea997d977@mail.gmail.com>

On Sunday 15 March 2009 14:52:05 Bean wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Yoshinori K. Okuji <okuji@enbug.org> wrote:
> > On Friday 13 March 2009 21:23:19 phcoder wrote:
> >> Look at load_env/save_env commands and grub-editenv util
> >
> > Thanks. Now I really regret that I didn't find those additions earlier.
> >
> > I do not like this implementation for the following reasons:
> >
> > - The saved file is not plain text, unlike GRUB Legacy. This is a bad
> > choice. Please let me know the reason why it must be binary, if any.
>
> Hi,
>
> As the command need to write to disk using blocklist information,
> which is not always correct (such as tail packing, sparse block), I
> use a magic header for verification. The length field is used to
> indicate the length of the block. because the command can't expand
> file, otherwise it would need to update fs information, which is too
> much for grub.

I have read your code deeply, and have found the following:

- in reality, you don't deal with tail packing, but just refuse it, because of 
this check in the hook function:

      if ((offset != 0) || (length != GRUB_DISK_SECTOR_SIZE))
        return;

- grub-editenv and save_env always write the magic at the beginning of a file, 
thus the magic does not make sense (besides an extremely conservative sanity 
check).

I would say that this is a regression from GRUB Legacy, which takes care of 
partial sector allocations gracefully.

So, assuming that every filesystem driver calls a read hook correctly, we 
should change it for:

- eliminating the magic header (although it could be kept for a safety guard 
for accidental writes)

- refusing to write, only if any sparse blocks are in use (as GRUB may not 
allocate new sectors physically)

- dealing with partial sectors - possibly due to tail packing - with some 
complicated code

I will work towards this direction. I will first fix up the sector handling 
and change the format to plain text. Naming changes are quite trivial, so 
they can be done later.

Regards,
Okuji

>
> > - The command names are ugly. Why didn't anybody follow Pavel's advise
> > using "env"?
> >
> > - The utility name is also ugly. I like Pavel's suggestion "grub-env".
> >
> > If nobody stops me, I will rewrite it in one week, without caring about
> > backward compatibility.
>
> I have no objection for the rename, although there should be two env
> commands, one to load and one to save.





  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-22  7:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-25  9:21 Interesting GSoC project ideas for 09 "C. Bergström"
2009-02-25 11:59 ` phcoder
2009-02-27 21:08   ` Robert Millan
2009-02-28 11:54     ` phcoder
2009-03-01  4:28       ` Pavel Roskin
2009-03-01 17:15         ` phcoder
2009-03-04 21:02           ` Robert Millan
2009-03-04 20:59         ` Migrating to GRUB 2 in Debian (Re: Interesting GSoC project ideas for 09) Robert Millan
2009-03-13 11:50           ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2009-03-13 12:23             ` phcoder
2009-03-14 21:10               ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2009-03-15  5:52                 ` Bean
2009-03-22  7:01                   ` Yoshinori K. Okuji [this message]
2009-03-22 10:48                     ` phcoder
2009-03-22 13:11                       ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2009-03-22 13:23                         ` phcoder
2009-03-22 14:02                           ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2009-03-22 12:29                     ` Robert Millan
2009-03-22 12:50                       ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2009-03-28 20:02                         ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2009-03-02  7:52       ` Interesting GSoC project ideas for 09 liu Aleaxander
2009-03-01 14:55   ` liu Aleaxander
2009-03-01 15:30     ` phcoder

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