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From: Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86: fix node_possible_map logic -v2
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:33:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090511213354.GD553@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0905111218520.23739@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:27:49PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Mon, 11 May 2009, Jack Steiner wrote:
> 
> > Do we have a clear and unambiguous definition of what a node really is?
> > In this case, is a board (socket) with cpus, a unique PXM but no memory
> > considered a node. Even though it has no memory, it is a node (depending on the
> > definition of "node") for purposes such as scheduling. The memoryless node also
> > has local IO buses that want to direct interrupts to node-local cpus.
> > 
> 
> In your example of two cpus (0-1) that are remote to the system's only 
> memory and two cpus (2-3) that have affinity to that memory, it appears as 
> though the kernel is considering cpus 2-3 and the memory to be a node and 
> cpus 0-1 to be a memoryless node.

Correct.


> 
> That's a pretty useless scenario for memoryless node support, actually, 
> unless there's a third node with memory that cpus 0-1 have a different 
> distance to. 

Yes, a large number of nodes exist. Most have memory but some do not.


> cpus 0-1 have no memory that is local, so the "remote" 
> memory should be considered local to them.

The cpus without local memory will obviously have to use memory from other
nodes. But the problem seems to be more complex. 

Cpus also belong to nodes. The cpu_to_node_map[] provides the mapping.
I have not tried it, but I wonder what happens if you offline all of the
memory of a node (probably not possible so this may be hypothetical for now).
Should offlining all node memory change the node that a cpu on the node
are associated with? That does not seem right.

Does offlining all node memory clear the entry in the node_data[] array?


> 
> I don't know who has been pushing the memoryless node support, but it 
> appears as though it hasn't been fully tested yet.

Agree. FWIW, it works ok in 2.6.27. I need to bisect to find where the regression
occurred.


> The NULL pglist_data 
> here for node 0 seems appropriate since you don't need it unless you're 
> describing memory, but the kernel implies that if a bit is set in 
> node_online_map or node_possible_map that it has this associated data.

> 
> Added Andi Kleen to the cc list.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-11 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-09  6:45 [PATCH 1/3] x86: remove MEMORY_HOTPLUG_RESERVE related code Yinghai Lu
2009-05-09  6:48 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86: add numa_move_cpus_to_node Yinghai Lu
2009-05-09  7:05   ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-05-12  1:27   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-11 21:53     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 20:59       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-12 17:16         ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 21:21           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-13  5:39             ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 19:34               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-14 20:58                 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-09  6:50 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86: fix node_possible_map logic -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-05-11 17:53   ` Jack Steiner
2009-05-11 19:15     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-11 19:36       ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-11 19:27     ` David Rientjes
2009-05-11 21:12       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-11 21:26         ` Alan Cox
2009-05-11 22:25         ` David Rientjes
2009-05-12 15:06           ` Jack Steiner
2009-05-12 15:10             ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 16:16               ` Jack Steiner
2009-05-12 16:40                 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 18:03                   ` Jack Steiner
2009-05-12 21:31                     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 21:58                       ` Jack Steiner
2009-05-12 23:13                         ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 23:26                           ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 15:43             ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13  1:34             ` [PATCH] x86: fix system without memory on node0 Yinghai Lu
2009-05-13  8:00               ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 15:58                 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-13 13:35               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-13 16:52               ` Jack Steiner
2009-05-13 17:43                 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-13 18:08                 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12  7:15         ` [PATCH 3/3] x86: fix node_possible_map logic -v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-11 21:33       ` Jack Steiner [this message]
2009-05-11 22:56         ` David Rientjes
2009-05-11 23:00           ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12  7:09       ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-12  1:02 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86: remove MEMORY_HOTPLUG_RESERVE related code Christoph Lameter
2009-05-12 11:16 ` Mel Gorman
2009-05-13  5:29   ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-13  9:55     ` Mel Gorman
2009-05-13  6:13   ` [PATCH] x86: remove MEMORY_HOTPLUG_RESERVE related code -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-05-13 14:59     ` Mel Gorman
2009-05-14 16:38       ` [PATCH 1/5] " Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 16:40         ` [PATCH 2/5] x86: add numa_move_cpus_to_node Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 16:41         ` [PATCH 3/5] x86: fix node_possible_map logic -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-05-18  7:40           ` [tip:x86/mm] x86, mm: Fix node_possible_map logic tip-bot for Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 16:42         ` [PATCH 4/5] x86: fix system without memory on node0 -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-05-18  7:40           ` [tip:x86/mm] x86: fix system without memory on node0 tip-bot for Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 16:43         ` [PATCH 5/5] mm: clear N_HIGH_MEMORY map before se set it again -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 16:54           ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-14 17:05             ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 17:25               ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-14 17:34                 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 19:44                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-04  5:16                   ` [RESEND PATCH] " Yinghai Lu
2009-06-04 16:38                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-04 16:48                       ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-04 17:11                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-04 17:26                           ` [PATCH] mm: clear N_HIGH_MEMORY map before se set it again -v4 Yinghai Lu
2009-06-19  6:42                             ` Nathan Lynch
2009-06-19  8:18                               ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                 ` <4A3B49BA.40100-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19  8:43                                   ` Nathan Lynch
2009-06-19  8:43                                 ` Nathan Lynch
2009-06-19 16:16                                   ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                   ` <m3prd0havh.fsf-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19 16:16                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-20 23:43                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-20 23:43                                       ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                       ` <4A3D7419.8040305-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-22  4:39                                         ` Nathan Lynch
2009-06-22  4:39                                       ` Nathan Lynch
2009-06-22 15:38                                         ` [PATCH] x86: only clear node_states for 64bit Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                           ` <4A3FA58A.3010909-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-26 20:54                                             ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 20:54                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 21:09                                             ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                               ` <4A4538FE.2090101-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-27 17:17                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-27 17:17                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                   ` <20090627171714.GD21595-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-27 20:40                                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-27 20:40                                                       ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                                       ` <4A4683B2.106-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-29  7:39                                                         ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-29  7:39                                                           ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                             ` <20090626135428.d8f88a70.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-26 21:09                                               ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                         ` <m3my807ug3.fsf-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-22 15:38                                           ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                               ` <m3bpokiv0u.fsf-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19  8:18                                 ` [PATCH] mm: clear N_HIGH_MEMORY map before se set it again -v4 Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                             ` <4A2803D1.4070001-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19  6:42                               ` Nathan Lynch
2009-05-18  7:39         ` [tip:x86/mm] mm, x86: remove MEMORY_HOTPLUG_RESERVE related code tip-bot for Yinghai Lu
     [not found] ` <20090511095022.GA23121@elte.hu>
     [not found]   ` <20090511163158.c4e4d334.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found]     ` <20090512090704.GC18004@elte.hu>
     [not found]       ` <4A0A6700.3070100@kernel.org>
     [not found]         ` <20090513133635.GB7384@elte.hu>
     [not found]           ` <4A0AFA6E.5050200@kernel.org>
     [not found]             ` <20090515173521.GA29647@elte.hu>
2009-05-15 21:38               ` tip: patches in git for irq and numa Yinghai Lu
2009-05-18  7:29                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-18 13:50                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-18 13:56                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-18 15:03                     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-18 15:09                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-18 15:11                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-18 17:23                         ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-19  9:37                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 10:31                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-19 12:26                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19  9:39                           ` [tip:irq/numa] x86, io-apic: Don't mark pin_programmed early tip-bot for Yinghai Lu
2009-05-19 12:30                           ` tip-bot for Yinghai Lu

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