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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86: fix node_possible_map logic -v2
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:12:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A0894A5.9000209@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0905111218520.23739@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

David Rientjes wrote:
> 
> In your example of two cpus (0-1) that are remote to the system's only 
> memory and two cpus (2-3) that have affinity to that memory, it appears as 
> though the kernel is considering cpus 2-3 and the memory to be a node and 
> cpus 0-1 to be a memoryless node.
> 
> That's a pretty useless scenario for memoryless node support, actually, 
> unless there's a third node with memory that cpus 0-1 have a different 
> distance to.  cpus 0-1 have no memory that is local, so the "remote" 
> memory should be considered local to them.
> 

Should it?  It seems to me that CPUs 0-1 should be antipreferentially 
scheduled, since they will have slower access to the memory than CPUs 
2-3.  Since in this case all the memory is in the same place you could 
argue that SMP distances could do the same job, which is of course true.

However, consider now:

CPU [0-1]	- no memory
CPU [2-3]	- memory
CPU [4-5]	- memory

Each node is equidistant, but for the memory nodes there is differences 
between their own local memory and the remote memory.

CPU [0-1] cannot be considered local in either node, since they are 
further away from the memory than either, and furthermore, unlike either 
of the memory nodes, they have no preference for memory from either of 
the other two nodes (quite on the contrary; they would probably benefit 
from drawing from both.)

 > I don't know who has been pushing the memoryless node support, but it
 > appears as though it hasn't been fully tested yet.  The NULL
 > pglist_data here for node 0 seems appropriate since you don't need it
 > unless you're describing memory, but the kernel implies that if a bit
 > is set in node_online_map or node_possible_map that it has this
 > associated data.

No doubt there is still bugs.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-11 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-09  6:45 [PATCH 1/3] x86: remove MEMORY_HOTPLUG_RESERVE related code Yinghai Lu
2009-05-09  6:48 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86: add numa_move_cpus_to_node Yinghai Lu
2009-05-09  7:05   ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-05-12  1:27   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-11 21:53     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 20:59       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-12 17:16         ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 21:21           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-13  5:39             ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 19:34               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-14 20:58                 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-09  6:50 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86: fix node_possible_map logic -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-05-11 17:53   ` Jack Steiner
2009-05-11 19:15     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-11 19:36       ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-11 19:27     ` David Rientjes
2009-05-11 21:12       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2009-05-11 21:26         ` Alan Cox
2009-05-11 22:25         ` David Rientjes
2009-05-12 15:06           ` Jack Steiner
2009-05-12 15:10             ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 16:16               ` Jack Steiner
2009-05-12 16:40                 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 18:03                   ` Jack Steiner
2009-05-12 21:31                     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 21:58                       ` Jack Steiner
2009-05-12 23:13                         ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 23:26                           ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12 15:43             ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13  1:34             ` [PATCH] x86: fix system without memory on node0 Yinghai Lu
2009-05-13  8:00               ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-13 15:58                 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-13 13:35               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-13 16:52               ` Jack Steiner
2009-05-13 17:43                 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-13 18:08                 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12  7:15         ` [PATCH 3/3] x86: fix node_possible_map logic -v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-11 21:33       ` Jack Steiner
2009-05-11 22:56         ` David Rientjes
2009-05-11 23:00           ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-12  7:09       ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-12  1:02 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86: remove MEMORY_HOTPLUG_RESERVE related code Christoph Lameter
2009-05-12 11:16 ` Mel Gorman
2009-05-13  5:29   ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-13  9:55     ` Mel Gorman
2009-05-13  6:13   ` [PATCH] x86: remove MEMORY_HOTPLUG_RESERVE related code -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-05-13 14:59     ` Mel Gorman
2009-05-14 16:38       ` [PATCH 1/5] " Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 16:40         ` [PATCH 2/5] x86: add numa_move_cpus_to_node Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 16:41         ` [PATCH 3/5] x86: fix node_possible_map logic -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-05-18  7:40           ` [tip:x86/mm] x86, mm: Fix node_possible_map logic tip-bot for Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 16:42         ` [PATCH 4/5] x86: fix system without memory on node0 -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-05-18  7:40           ` [tip:x86/mm] x86: fix system without memory on node0 tip-bot for Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 16:43         ` [PATCH 5/5] mm: clear N_HIGH_MEMORY map before se set it again -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 16:54           ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-14 17:05             ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 17:25               ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-14 17:34                 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-14 19:44                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-04  5:16                   ` [RESEND PATCH] " Yinghai Lu
2009-06-04 16:38                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-04 16:48                       ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-04 17:11                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-04 17:26                           ` [PATCH] mm: clear N_HIGH_MEMORY map before se set it again -v4 Yinghai Lu
2009-06-19  6:42                             ` Nathan Lynch
2009-06-19  8:18                               ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                 ` <4A3B49BA.40100-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19  8:43                                   ` Nathan Lynch
2009-06-19  8:43                                 ` Nathan Lynch
2009-06-19 16:16                                   ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                   ` <m3prd0havh.fsf-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19 16:16                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-20 23:43                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-20 23:43                                       ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                       ` <4A3D7419.8040305-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-22  4:39                                         ` Nathan Lynch
2009-06-22  4:39                                       ` Nathan Lynch
2009-06-22 15:38                                         ` [PATCH] x86: only clear node_states for 64bit Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                           ` <4A3FA58A.3010909-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-26 20:54                                             ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 20:54                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 21:09                                             ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                               ` <4A4538FE.2090101-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-27 17:17                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-27 17:17                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                   ` <20090627171714.GD21595-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-27 20:40                                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-27 20:40                                                       ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                                       ` <4A4683B2.106-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-29  7:39                                                         ` Yinghai Lu
2009-06-29  7:39                                                           ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                             ` <20090626135428.d8f88a70.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-26 21:09                                               ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                         ` <m3my807ug3.fsf-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-22 15:38                                           ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                               ` <m3bpokiv0u.fsf-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19  8:18                                 ` [PATCH] mm: clear N_HIGH_MEMORY map before se set it again -v4 Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                             ` <4A2803D1.4070001-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19  6:42                               ` Nathan Lynch
2009-05-18  7:39         ` [tip:x86/mm] mm, x86: remove MEMORY_HOTPLUG_RESERVE related code tip-bot for Yinghai Lu
     [not found] ` <20090511095022.GA23121@elte.hu>
     [not found]   ` <20090511163158.c4e4d334.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found]     ` <20090512090704.GC18004@elte.hu>
     [not found]       ` <4A0A6700.3070100@kernel.org>
     [not found]         ` <20090513133635.GB7384@elte.hu>
     [not found]           ` <4A0AFA6E.5050200@kernel.org>
     [not found]             ` <20090515173521.GA29647@elte.hu>
2009-05-15 21:38               ` tip: patches in git for irq and numa Yinghai Lu
2009-05-18  7:29                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-18 13:50                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-18 13:56                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-18 15:03                     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-18 15:09                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-18 15:11                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-18 17:23                         ` Yinghai Lu
2009-05-19  9:37                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 10:31                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-19 12:26                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19  9:39                           ` [tip:irq/numa] x86, io-apic: Don't mark pin_programmed early tip-bot for Yinghai Lu
2009-05-19 12:30                           ` tip-bot for Yinghai Lu

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