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* [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
@ 2009-07-27  9:57 Zachary Amsden
  2009-07-27 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
  2009-08-07 18:08 ` Pavel Machek
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Zachary Amsden @ 2009-07-27  9:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, torvalds, axboe, hch, akpm, Paul.Clements, tytso

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Well, it may be a good, bad, idiotic or brilliant idea depending on your
personal philosophy.  I went down this route out of pragmatism.
Hopefully I have not fully re-invented the wheel.

The patch included allows one to implement a kernel level block device
in userspace, using an ioctl() based interface to create a sized device
with given properties, and then receive and respond to bio requests
issued to the device.  One can poll on the associated control socket to
allow efficient servicing of device requests.  So far only strict copy
to/from user memory is supported, there is no fancy page flipping or
mapping operations.

Which there probably should not be.  This device is not about
performance, is it about extending the boundaries of the kernel to the
almost improbable.  Now one can literally create any kind of device
imaginable and use it as a block device in the kernel, mounting
partitions and such and using them as if they existed natively.  I have
attached a very simple dummy program showing how to do this.

The design requirements 'kernel block device in user space' to me
demanded that the interface be stateless.  Userspace can crash, be
killed, or interrupted.  Block devices cannot, they must answer all
requests, even if that answer is a failure.  Thus there exists no state
between the kernel and the userspace process(es) or threads serving the
device.  No establishment of connections, just a queue which can be read
and answered via get and put, the ioctl operators available.  This
allows a completely flexible userspace implementation, with multiple
processes, etc, and allows complete recovery via a simple reset command
if those programs fail.  I believe this also prevents any possibility of
accidental deadlock.  There may of course be some hidden deep deadlock
potential in such a device, especially if one decided to use it as a
swap device, but again, this is a philosophical issue.

Enough talking, let's have at it and see where this goes.  Obviously
this is experimental and open to feedback.  Considering it turns kernel
interfaces on their head, I have given it what I feel is an appropriate
name.

If there is any person or list you know that I forgot to copy this to,
please forward it on to them.

Thanks,

Zach

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Allow block devices to be implemented in userspace via IOCTLs
on a char device which is coupled to a virtual block device.

Signed-off-by: Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
---
 Documentation/ioctl/ioctl-number.txt |    1 +
 drivers/block/Kconfig                |   15 +
 drivers/block/Makefile               |    1 +
 drivers/block/abuse.c                |  772 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 include/linux/abuse.h                |  115 +++++
 include/linux/major.h                |    3 +
 6 files changed, 907 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 drivers/block/abuse.c
 create mode 100644 include/linux/abuse.h

diff --git a/Documentation/ioctl/ioctl-number.txt b/Documentation/ioctl/ioctl-number.txt
index 7bb0d93..95960bd 100644
--- a/Documentation/ioctl/ioctl-number.txt
+++ b/Documentation/ioctl/ioctl-number.txt
@@ -81,6 +81,7 @@ Code	Seq#	Include File		Comments
 '8'	all				SNP8023 advanced NIC card
 					<mailto:mcr@solidum.com>
 'A'	00-1F	linux/apm_bios.h
+'A'     20-2F   linux/abuse.h
 'B'	C0-FF				advanced bbus
 					<mailto:maassen@uni-freiburg.de>
 'C'	all	linux/soundcard.h
diff --git a/drivers/block/Kconfig b/drivers/block/Kconfig
index 1d886e0..2beeca3 100644
--- a/drivers/block/Kconfig
+++ b/drivers/block/Kconfig
@@ -213,6 +213,21 @@ config BLK_DEV_COW_COMMON
 	bool
 	default BLK_DEV_UBD
 
+config BLK_DEV_ABUSE
+	tristate "ABUSE user space block device driver"
+	---help---
+	  This driver allows block devices to be implemented in userspace.
+	  It is completely useless and is a massive abuse of the layering
+	  of the kernel.  Unless of course you write a userspace driver
+	  for it, in which case you can create arbitrary block devices.
+
+	  Just don't try to swap over it.
+
+	  To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the
+	  module will be called abuse.
+
+	  Most users will answer N here.
+
 config BLK_DEV_LOOP
 	tristate "Loopback device support"
 	---help---
diff --git a/drivers/block/Makefile b/drivers/block/Makefile
index cdaa3f8..1f5f8df 100644
--- a/drivers/block/Makefile
+++ b/drivers/block/Makefile
@@ -14,6 +14,7 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_PS3_VRAM)		+= ps3vram.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_ATARI_FLOPPY)	+= ataflop.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_AMIGA_Z2RAM)	+= z2ram.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM)	+= brd.o
+obj-$(CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ABUSE)	+= abuse.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP)	+= loop.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD)	+= xd.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA)	+= cpqarray.o
diff --git a/drivers/block/abuse.c b/drivers/block/abuse.c
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..a3d004e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/drivers/block/abuse.c
@@ -0,0 +1,772 @@
+/*
+ *  linux/drivers/block/abuse.c
+ *
+ *  Written by Zachary Amsden, 7/23/2009
+ *
+ *  This was heavily stolen from pieces of the loopback, network block device,
+ *  and parts of FUSE.  Since then it has grown antlers and had several new
+ *  limbs grafted onto it, even some of the intenal organs have been replaced.
+ *  Please forgive the comments and the obvious uprooting of kernel interfaces.
+ *
+ *  I believe the module is named appropriately.
+ *
+ *  The point of this driver is to allow /user-space/ drivers for kernel block
+ *  devices.  Yes, it's a strange concept.  However, it's also incredibly
+ *  useful.  I would not recommend trying to swap on these devices, unless you
+ *  can prove that case deadlock free.
+ *
+ * Copyright (c) 2009 by Zachary Amsden.  Redistribution of this file is
+ * permitted under the GNU General Public License.
+ *
+ */
+
+#include <linux/module.h>
+#include <linux/moduleparam.h>
+#include <linux/sched.h>
+#include <linux/fs.h>
+#include <linux/file.h>
+#include <linux/stat.h>
+#include <linux/errno.h>
+#include <linux/major.h>
+#include <linux/blkdev.h>
+#include <linux/init.h>
+#include <linux/smp_lock.h>
+#include <linux/buffer_head.h>		/* for invalidate_bdev() */
+#include <linux/cdev.h>
+#include <linux/poll.h>
+#include <linux/abuse.h>
+
+#include <asm/uaccess.h>
+
+static LIST_HEAD(abuse_devices);
+static DEFINE_MUTEX(abuse_devices_mutex);
+static struct class *abuse_class;
+static int max_part;
+static int num_minors;
+static int dev_shift;
+
+struct abuse_device *abuse_get_dev(int dev)
+{
+	struct abuse_device *ab = NULL;
+
+	mutex_lock(&abuse_devices_mutex);
+	list_for_each_entry(ab, &abuse_devices, ab_list) 
+		if (ab->ab_number == dev)
+			break;
+	mutex_unlock(&abuse_devices_mutex);
+	return ab;
+}
+
+/*
+ * Add bio to back of pending list
+ */
+static void abuse_add_bio(struct abuse_device *ab, struct bio *bio)
+{
+	printk("abuse_add_bio %p\n", bio);
+	if (ab->ab_biotail) {
+		ab->ab_biotail->bi_next = bio;
+		ab->ab_biotail = bio;
+	} else
+		ab->ab_bio = ab->ab_biotail = bio;
+	ab->ab_queue_size++;
+}
+
+static inline void abuse_add_bio_unlocked(struct abuse_device *ab,
+	struct bio *bio)
+{
+	spin_lock_irq(&ab->ab_lock);
+	abuse_add_bio(ab, bio);
+	spin_unlock_irq(&ab->ab_lock);
+}
+
+static inline struct bio *abuse_find_bio(struct abuse_device *ab,
+	struct bio *match)
+{
+	struct bio *bio;
+	struct bio **pprev = &ab->ab_bio;
+
+	while ((bio = *pprev) != 0 && match && bio != match)
+		pprev = &bio->bi_next;
+
+	if (bio) {
+		if (bio == ab->ab_biotail) {
+			ab->ab_biotail = bio == ab->ab_bio ? NULL :
+			   (struct bio *) 
+			   ((caddr_t)pprev - offsetof(struct bio, bi_next));
+		}
+		*pprev = bio->bi_next;
+		bio->bi_next = NULL;
+		ab->ab_queue_size--;
+	}
+
+	printk("abuse_find_bio %p %p\n", bio, match);
+	return bio;
+}
+
+static int abuse_make_request(struct request_queue *q, struct bio *old_bio)
+{
+	struct abuse_device *ab = q->queuedata;
+	int rw = bio_rw(old_bio);
+
+	if (rw == READA)
+		rw = READ;
+
+	BUG_ON(!ab || (rw != READ && rw != WRITE));
+
+	spin_lock_irq(&ab->ab_lock);
+	if (unlikely(rw == WRITE && (ab->ab_flags & ABUSE_FLAGS_READ_ONLY)))
+		goto out;
+	if (unlikely(ab->ab_queue_size == ab->ab_max_queue))
+		goto out;
+	abuse_add_bio(ab, old_bio);
+	wake_up(&ab->ab_event);
+	spin_unlock_irq(&ab->ab_lock);
+	return 0;
+
+out:
+	ab->ab_errors++;
+	spin_unlock_irq(&ab->ab_lock);
+	bio_io_error(old_bio);
+	return 0;
+}
+
+static void abuse_flush_bio(struct abuse_device *ab)
+{
+	struct bio *bio, *next;
+
+	spin_lock_irq(&ab->ab_lock);
+	bio = ab->ab_bio;
+	ab->ab_biotail = ab->ab_bio = NULL;
+	ab->ab_queue_size = 0;
+	spin_unlock_irq(&ab->ab_lock);
+
+	while (bio) {
+		next = bio->bi_next;
+		bio->bi_next = NULL;
+		bio_io_error(bio);
+		bio = next;
+	}
+}
+
+/*
+ * kick off io on the underlying address space
+ */
+static void abuse_unplug(struct request_queue *q)
+{
+	queue_flag_clear_unlocked(QUEUE_FLAG_PLUGGED, q);
+}
+
+static inline int is_abuse_device(struct file *file)
+{
+	struct inode *i = file->f_mapping->host;
+
+	return i && S_ISBLK(i->i_mode) && MAJOR(i->i_rdev) == ABUSE_MAJOR;
+}
+
+static int abuse_reset(struct abuse_device *ab)
+{
+	if (!ab->ab_disk->queue)
+		return -EINVAL;
+
+	abuse_flush_bio(ab);
+	ab->ab_queue->unplug_fn = NULL;
+	ab->ab_flags = 0;
+	ab->ab_errors = 0;
+	ab->ab_blocksize = 0;
+	ab->ab_size = 0;
+	ab->ab_max_queue = 0;
+	set_capacity(ab->ab_disk, 0);
+	if (ab->ab_device) {
+		bd_set_size(ab->ab_device, 0);
+		invalidate_bdev(ab->ab_device);
+		if (max_part > 0)
+			ioctl_by_bdev(ab->ab_device, BLKRRPART, 0);
+		blkdev_put(ab->ab_device, FMODE_READ);
+		ab->ab_device = NULL;
+		module_put(THIS_MODULE);
+	}
+	return 0;
+}
+
+static int
+abuse_set_status_int(struct abuse_device *ab, struct block_device *bdev,
+	const struct abuse_info *info)
+{
+	sector_t size = (sector_t)(info->ab_size >> 9);
+	loff_t blocks;
+	int err;
+
+	if (unlikely((loff_t)size != size))
+		return -EFBIG;
+
+	blocks = info->ab_size / info->ab_blocksize;
+	if (unlikely(info->ab_blocksize * blocks != info->ab_size))
+		return -EINVAL;
+
+	if (unlikely(info->ab_max_queue) > 512)
+		return -EINVAL;
+
+	if (unlikely(bdev)) {
+		if (bdev != ab->ab_device)
+			return -EBUSY;
+		if (!(ab->ab_flags & ABUSE_FLAGS_RECONNECT))
+			return -EINVAL;
+
+		/*
+		 * Don't allow these to change on a reconnect.
+		 * We do allow changing the max queue size and
+		 * the RO flag.
+		 */
+		if (ab->ab_size != info->ab_size ||
+		    ab->ab_blocksize != info->ab_blocksize ||
+		    info->ab_max_queue > ab->ab_queue_size)
+		    	return -EINVAL;
+	} else {
+		bdev = bdget_disk(ab->ab_disk, 0);
+		if (IS_ERR(bdev)) {
+			err = PTR_ERR(bdev);
+			return err;
+		}
+		err = blkdev_get(bdev, FMODE_READ);
+		if (err) {
+			bdput(bdev);
+			return err;
+		}
+		__module_get(THIS_MODULE);
+	}
+
+	ab->ab_device = bdev;
+	blk_queue_make_request(ab->ab_queue, abuse_make_request);
+	ab->ab_queue->queuedata = ab;
+	ab->ab_queue->unplug_fn = abuse_unplug;
+	queue_flag_set_unlocked(QUEUE_FLAG_NONROT, ab->ab_queue);
+
+	ab->ab_size = info->ab_size;
+	ab->ab_flags = (info->ab_flags & ABUSE_FLAGS_READ_ONLY);
+	ab->ab_blocksize = info->ab_blocksize;
+	ab->ab_max_queue = info->ab_max_queue;
+
+	set_capacity(ab->ab_disk, size);
+	set_device_ro(bdev, (ab->ab_flags & ABUSE_FLAGS_READ_ONLY) != 0);
+	set_capacity(ab->ab_disk, size);
+	bd_set_size(bdev, size << 9);
+	set_blocksize(bdev, ab->ab_blocksize);
+	if (max_part > 0)
+		ioctl_by_bdev(bdev, BLKRRPART, 0);
+
+	return 0;
+}
+
+static int
+abuse_get_status_int(struct abuse_device *ab, struct abuse_info *info)
+{
+	memset(info, 0, sizeof(*info));
+	info->ab_size = ab->ab_size;
+	info->ab_number = ab->ab_number;
+	info->ab_flags = ab->ab_flags;
+	info->ab_blocksize = ab->ab_blocksize;
+	info->ab_max_queue = ab->ab_max_queue;
+	info->ab_queue_size = ab->ab_queue_size;
+	info->ab_errors = ab->ab_errors;
+	info->ab_max_vecs = BIO_MAX_PAGES;
+	return 0;
+}
+
+static int
+abuse_set_status(struct abuse_device *ab, struct block_device *bdev,
+	const struct abuse_info __user *arg)
+{
+	struct abuse_info info;
+
+	if (copy_from_user(&info, arg, sizeof (struct abuse_info)))
+		return -EFAULT;
+	return abuse_set_status_int(ab, bdev, &info);
+}
+
+static int
+abuse_get_status(struct abuse_device *ab, struct block_device *bdev,
+	struct abuse_info __user *arg)
+{
+	struct abuse_info info;
+	int err = 0;
+
+	if (!arg)
+		err = -EINVAL;
+	if (!err)
+		err = abuse_get_status_int(ab, &info);
+	if (!err && copy_to_user(arg, &info, sizeof(info)))
+		err = -EFAULT;
+
+	return err;
+}
+
+static int
+abuse_get_bio(struct abuse_device *ab, struct abuse_xfr_hdr __user *arg)
+{
+	struct abuse_xfr_hdr xfr;
+	struct bio *bio;
+
+	if (!arg)
+		return -EINVAL;
+	if (!ab)
+		return -ENODEV;
+
+	if (copy_from_user(&xfr, arg, sizeof (struct abuse_xfr_hdr)))
+		return -EFAULT;
+
+	spin_lock_irq(&ab->ab_lock);
+	bio = abuse_find_bio(ab, NULL);
+	xfr.ab_id = (__u64)bio;
+	if (bio) {
+		int i;
+		xfr.ab_sector = bio->bi_sector;
+		xfr.ab_command = (bio->bi_rw & BIO_RW);
+		xfr.ab_vec_count = bio->bi_vcnt;
+		for (i = 0; i < bio->bi_vcnt; i++) {
+			ab->ab_xfer[i].ab_len = bio->bi_io_vec[i].bv_len;
+			ab->ab_xfer[i].ab_offset = bio->bi_io_vec[i].bv_offset;
+		}
+
+		/* Put it back to the end of the list */
+		abuse_add_bio(ab, bio);
+	} else {
+		xfr.ab_transfer_address = 0;
+		xfr.ab_vec_count = 0;
+	}
+	spin_unlock_irq(&ab->ab_lock);
+
+	if (copy_to_user(arg, &xfr, sizeof(xfr)))
+		return -EFAULT;
+	if (xfr.ab_transfer_address &&
+		copy_to_user((void *)xfr.ab_transfer_address, ab->ab_xfer,
+			     xfr.ab_vec_count * sizeof(ab->ab_xfer[0])))
+		return -EFAULT;
+	
+	return bio ? 0 : -ENOMSG;
+}
+
+static int
+abuse_put_bio(struct abuse_device *ab, struct abuse_xfr_hdr __user *arg)
+{
+	struct abuse_xfr_hdr xfr;
+	struct bio *bio;
+	struct bio_vec *bvec;
+	int i, read;
+
+	if (!arg)
+		return -EINVAL;
+	if (!ab)
+		return -ENODEV;
+
+	if (copy_from_user(&xfr, arg, sizeof (struct abuse_xfr_hdr)))
+		return -EFAULT;
+
+	/*
+	 * Handle catastrophes first.  Do this by giving them catnip.
+	 */
+	if (unlikely(xfr.ab_result == ABUSE_RESULT_DEVICE_FAILURE)) {
+		abuse_flush_bio(ab);
+		return 0;
+	}
+
+	/*
+	 * Look up the dang thing to make sure the user is telling us
+	 * they've actually completed some work.  It's very doubtful.
+	 */
+	spin_lock_irq(&ab->ab_lock);
+	bio = abuse_find_bio(ab, (struct bio *)xfr.ab_id);
+	spin_unlock_irq(&ab->ab_lock);
+	if (!bio)
+		return -ENOMSG;
+	
+	/*
+	 * This isn't just arbitrary anal-retentiveness.  Userspace will
+	 * obviously crash and burn, and so we check all fields as stringently
+	 * as possible to provide some protection against the case when we
+	 * re-use the same bio and some user-tarded program tries to complete
+	 * an historical event.  Better prophylactics are possible, but crazy.
+	 */
+	if (bio->bi_sector != xfr.ab_sector ||
+	    bio->bi_vcnt != xfr.ab_vec_count ||
+	    (bio->bi_rw & BIO_RW) != xfr.ab_command) {
+	    	abuse_add_bio_unlocked(ab, bio);
+		return -EINVAL;
+	}
+	read = !(bio->bi_rw & BIO_RW);
+	
+	/*
+	 * Now handle individual failures that don't affect other I/Os.
+	 */
+	if (unlikely(xfr.ab_result == ABUSE_RESULT_MEDIA_FAILURE)) {
+		bio_io_error(bio);
+		return 0;
+	}
+
+	/*
+	 * We've now stolen the bio off the queue.  This is stupid if we don't
+	 * complete it.  But we don't want to hold the spinlock while doing I/O
+	 * from the user component.  If userspace bugs out and crashes, as is
+	 * to be expected from a userspace program, so be it.  The bio can
+	 * always be cancelled by a sane actor when we put it back.
+	 */
+	if (copy_from_user(ab->ab_xfer, (void *)xfr.ab_transfer_address,
+			     bio->bi_vcnt * sizeof(ab->ab_xfer[0]))) {
+	    	abuse_add_bio_unlocked(ab, bio);
+		return -EFAULT;
+	}
+	
+	/*
+	 * You made it this far?  It's time for the third movement.
+	 */
+	bio_for_each_segment(bvec, bio, i)
+	{
+		int ret;
+		void *kaddr = kmap(bvec->bv_page);
+
+		if (read)
+			ret = copy_from_user(kaddr + bvec->bv_offset, 
+				(void *)ab->ab_xfer[i].ab_address,
+				bvec->bv_len);
+		else
+			ret = copy_to_user((void *)ab->ab_xfer[i].ab_address,
+				kaddr + bvec->bv_offset, bvec->bv_len);
+
+		kunmap(bvec->bv_page);
+		if (ret != 0) { 
+			/* Wise, up sucker! (PWEI RULEZ) */
+			abuse_add_bio_unlocked(ab, bio);
+			return -EFAULT;
+		}
+	}
+
+	/* Well, you did it.  Congraulations, you get a pony. */
+	bio_endio(bio, 0);
+
+	return 0;
+}
+
+static int abctl_ioctl(struct inode *inode, struct file *filp, unsigned int cmd,
+	unsigned long arg)
+{
+	struct abuse_device *ab = filp->private_data;
+	int err;
+
+	if (!ab || !ab->ab_disk)
+		return -ENODEV;
+
+	mutex_lock(&ab->ab_ctl_mutex);
+	switch (cmd) {
+	case ABUSE_GET_STATUS:
+		err = abuse_get_status(ab, ab->ab_device,
+				       (struct abuse_info __user *) arg);
+		break;
+	case ABUSE_SET_STATUS:
+		err = abuse_set_status(ab, ab->ab_device,
+				       (struct abuse_info __user *) arg);
+		break;
+	case ABUSE_RESET:
+		err = abuse_reset(ab);
+		break;
+	case ABUSE_GET_BIO:
+		err = abuse_get_bio(ab, (struct abuse_xfr_hdr __user *) arg);
+		break;
+	case ABUSE_PUT_BIO:
+		err = abuse_put_bio(ab, (struct abuse_xfr_hdr __user *) arg);
+		break;
+	default:
+		err = -EINVAL;
+	}
+	mutex_unlock(&ab->ab_ctl_mutex);
+	return err;
+}
+
+static unsigned int abctl_poll(struct file *filp, poll_table *wait)
+{
+	unsigned int mask;
+	struct abuse_device *ab = filp->private_data;
+
+	poll_wait(filp, &ab->ab_event, wait);
+
+	/*
+	 * The comment in asm-generic/poll.h says of these nonstandard values,
+	 * 'Check them!'.  Thus we use POLLMSG to force the user to check it.
+	 */
+	mask = (ab->ab_bio) ? POLLMSG : 0;
+
+	return mask;
+}
+
+static int abctl_open(struct inode *inode, struct file *filp)
+{
+	struct abuse_device *ab;
+	
+	ab = abuse_get_dev(iminor(inode));
+	if (!ab)
+		return -ENODEV;
+
+	filp->private_data = ab;
+	return 0;
+}
+
+static int abctl_release(struct inode *inode, struct file *filp)
+{
+	struct abuse_device *ab = filp->private_data;
+	if (!ab)
+		return -ENODEV;
+
+	return 0;
+}
+
+static int ab_open(struct block_device *bdev, fmode_t mode)
+{
+	return 0;
+}
+
+static int ab_release(struct gendisk *disk, fmode_t mode)
+{
+	return 0;
+}
+
+static struct block_device_operations ab_fops = {
+	.owner =	THIS_MODULE,
+	.open =		ab_open,
+	.release =	ab_release,
+};
+
+static struct file_operations abctl_fops = {
+	.owner =	THIS_MODULE,
+	.open =		abctl_open,
+	.release =	abctl_release,
+	.ioctl =	abctl_ioctl,
+	.poll =		abctl_poll,
+};
+
+/*
+ * And now the modules code and kernel interface.
+ */
+static int max_abuse;
+module_param(max_abuse, int, 0);
+MODULE_PARM_DESC(max_abuse, "Maximum number of abuse devices");
+module_param(max_part, int, 0);
+MODULE_PARM_DESC(max_part, "Maximum number of partitions per abuse device");
+MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
+MODULE_ALIAS_BLOCKDEV_MAJOR(ABUSE_MAJOR);
+
+static struct abuse_device *abuse_alloc(int i)
+{
+	struct abuse_device *ab;
+	struct gendisk *disk;
+	struct cdev *cdev;
+	struct device *device;
+
+	ab = kzalloc(sizeof(*ab), GFP_KERNEL);
+	if (!ab)
+		goto out;
+
+	ab->ab_queue = blk_alloc_queue(GFP_KERNEL);
+	if (!ab->ab_queue)
+		goto out_free_dev;
+
+	disk = ab->ab_disk = alloc_disk(num_minors);
+	if (!disk)
+		goto out_free_queue;
+	
+	disk->major		= ABUSE_MAJOR;
+	disk->first_minor	= i << dev_shift;
+	disk->fops		= &ab_fops;
+	disk->private_data	= ab;
+	disk->queue		= ab->ab_queue;
+	sprintf(disk->disk_name, "abuse%d", i);
+
+	cdev = ab->ab_cdev = cdev_alloc();
+	if (!cdev)
+		goto out_free_disk;
+
+	cdev->owner = THIS_MODULE;
+	cdev->ops = &abctl_fops;
+
+	if (cdev_add(ab->ab_cdev, MKDEV(ABUSECTL_MAJOR, i), 1) != 0)
+		goto out_free_cdev;
+	
+	device = device_create(abuse_class, NULL, MKDEV(ABUSECTL_MAJOR, i), ab,
+				"abctl%d", i);
+	if (IS_ERR(device)) {
+		printk(KERN_ERR "abuse_alloc: device_create failed\n");
+		goto out_free_cdev;
+	}
+	
+	mutex_init(&ab->ab_ctl_mutex);
+	ab->ab_number		= i;
+	init_waitqueue_head(&ab->ab_event);
+	spin_lock_init(&ab->ab_lock);
+
+	return ab;
+
+out_free_cdev:
+	cdev_del(ab->ab_cdev);
+out_free_disk:
+	put_disk(ab->ab_disk);
+out_free_queue:
+	blk_cleanup_queue(ab->ab_queue);
+out_free_dev:
+	kfree(ab);
+out:
+	return NULL;
+}
+
+static void abuse_free(struct abuse_device *ab)
+{
+	blk_cleanup_queue(ab->ab_queue);
+	device_destroy(abuse_class, MKDEV(ABUSECTL_MAJOR, ab->ab_number));
+	cdev_del(ab->ab_cdev);
+	put_disk(ab->ab_disk);
+	list_del(&ab->ab_list);
+	kfree(ab);
+}
+
+static struct abuse_device *abuse_init_one(int i)
+{
+	struct abuse_device *ab;
+
+	list_for_each_entry(ab, &abuse_devices, ab_list) 
+		if (ab->ab_number == i)
+			return ab;
+
+	ab = abuse_alloc(i);
+	if (ab) {
+		add_disk(ab->ab_disk);
+		list_add_tail(&ab->ab_list, &abuse_devices);
+	}
+	return ab;
+}
+
+static void abuse_del_one(struct abuse_device *ab)
+{
+	del_gendisk(ab->ab_disk);
+	abuse_free(ab);
+}
+
+static struct kobject *abuse_probe(dev_t dev, int *part, void *data)
+{
+	struct abuse_device *ab;
+	struct kobject *kobj;
+
+	mutex_lock(&abuse_devices_mutex);
+	ab = abuse_init_one(dev & MINORMASK);
+	kobj = ab ? get_disk(ab->ab_disk) : ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM);
+	mutex_unlock(&abuse_devices_mutex);
+
+	*part = 0;
+	return kobj;
+}
+
+static int __init abuse_init(void)
+{
+	int i, nr, err;
+	unsigned long range;
+	struct abuse_device *ab, *next;
+
+	/*
+	 * abuse module has a feature to instantiate underlying device
+	 * structure on-demand, provided that there is an access dev node.
+	 *
+	 * (1) if max_abuse is specified, create that many upfront, and this
+	 *     also becomes a hard limit.  Cross it and divorce is likely.
+	 * (2) if max_abuse is not specified, create 8 abuse device on module
+	 *     load, user can further extend abuse device by create dev node
+	 *     themselves and have kernel automatically instantiate actual
+	 *     device on-demand.
+	 */
+
+	dev_shift = 0;
+	if (max_part > 0)
+		dev_shift = fls(max_part);
+	num_minors = 1 << dev_shift;
+
+	if (max_abuse > 1UL << (MINORBITS - dev_shift))
+		return -EINVAL;
+
+	if (max_abuse) {
+		nr = max_abuse;
+		range = max_abuse;
+	} else {
+		nr = 8;
+		range = 1UL << (MINORBITS - dev_shift);
+	}
+
+	err = -EIO;
+	if (register_blkdev(ABUSE_MAJOR, "abuse")) {
+		printk("abuse: register_blkdev failed!\n");
+		return err;
+	}
+	
+	err = register_chrdev_region(MKDEV(ABUSECTL_MAJOR, 0), range, "abuse");
+	if (err) {
+		printk("abuse: register_chrdev_region failed!\n");
+		goto unregister_blk;
+	}
+
+	abuse_class = class_create(THIS_MODULE, "abuse");
+	if (IS_ERR(abuse_class)) {
+		err = PTR_ERR(abuse_class);
+		goto unregister_chr;
+	}
+
+	err = -ENOMEM;
+	for (i = 0; i < nr; i++) {
+		ab = abuse_alloc(i);
+		if (!ab) {
+			printk(KERN_INFO "abuse: out of memory\n");
+			goto free_devices;
+		}
+		list_add_tail(&ab->ab_list, &abuse_devices);
+	}
+
+	/* point of no return */
+
+	list_for_each_entry(ab, &abuse_devices, ab_list)
+		add_disk(ab->ab_disk);
+
+	blk_register_region(MKDEV(ABUSE_MAJOR, 0), range,
+				  THIS_MODULE, abuse_probe, NULL, NULL);
+
+	printk(KERN_INFO "abuse: module loaded\n");
+	return 0;
+
+free_devices:
+	list_for_each_entry_safe(ab, next, &abuse_devices, ab_list)
+		abuse_free(ab);
+unregister_chr:
+	unregister_chrdev_region(MKDEV(ABUSECTL_MAJOR, 0), range);
+unregister_blk:
+	unregister_blkdev(ABUSE_MAJOR, "abuse");
+	return err;
+}
+
+static void __exit abuse_exit(void)
+{
+	unsigned long range;
+	struct abuse_device *ab, *next;
+
+	range = max_abuse ? max_abuse :  1UL << (MINORBITS - dev_shift);
+
+	list_for_each_entry_safe(ab, next, &abuse_devices, ab_list)
+		abuse_del_one(ab);
+	class_destroy(abuse_class);
+	blk_unregister_region(MKDEV(ABUSE_MAJOR, 0), range);
+	unregister_chrdev_region(MKDEV(ABUSECTL_MAJOR, 0), range);
+	unregister_blkdev(ABUSE_MAJOR, "abuse");
+}
+
+module_init(abuse_init);
+module_exit(abuse_exit);
+
+#ifndef MODULE
+static int __init max_abuse_setup(char *str)
+{
+	max_abuse = simple_strtol(str, NULL, 0);
+	return 1;
+}
+
+__setup("max_abuse=", max_abuse_setup);
+#endif
diff --git a/include/linux/abuse.h b/include/linux/abuse.h
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..b904d50
--- /dev/null
+++ b/include/linux/abuse.h
@@ -0,0 +1,115 @@
+#ifndef _LINUX_ABUSE_H
+#define _LINUX_ABUSE_H
+
+/*
+ * include/linux/abuse.h
+ *
+ * Copyright 2009 by Zachary Amsden.  Redistribution of this file is
+ * permitted under the GNU General Public License.
+ */
+
+/*
+ * Loop flags
+ */
+enum {
+	ABUSE_FLAGS_READ_ONLY	= 1,
+	ABUSE_FLAGS_RECONNECT	= 2,
+};
+
+#include <linux/types.h>	/* for __u64 */
+
+struct abuse_info {
+	__u64		   ab_device;			/* ioctl r/o */
+	__u64		   ab_size;			/* ioctl r/w */
+	__u32		   ab_number;			/* ioctl r/o */
+	__u32		   ab_flags;			/* ioctl r/w */
+	__u32		   ab_blocksize;		/* ioctl r/w */
+	__u32		   ab_max_queue;		/* ioctl r/w */
+	__u32		   ab_queue_size;		/* ioctl r/o */
+	__u32		   ab_errors;			/* ioctl r/o */
+	__u32		   ab_max_vecs;			/* ioctl r/o */
+};
+
+/*
+ * IOCTL commands 
+ */
+
+#define ABUSE_GET_STATUS	0x4120
+#define ABUSE_SET_STATUS	0x4121
+#define ABUSE_SET_POLL		0x4122
+#define ABUSE_RESET		0x4123
+#define ABUSE_GET_BIO		0x4124
+#define ABUSE_PUT_BIO		0x4125
+
+struct abuse_vec {
+	__u64			ab_address;
+	__u32			ab_len;
+	__u32			ab_offset;
+};
+
+struct abuse_xfr_hdr {
+	__u64			ab_id;
+	__u64			ab_sector;
+	__u32			ab_command;
+	__u32			ab_result;
+	__u32			ab_vec_count;
+	__u32			ab_vec_offset;
+	__u64			ab_transfer_address;
+};
+
+/*
+ * ab_commnd codes 
+ */
+enum {
+	ABUSE_READ			= 0,
+	ABUSE_WRITE			= 1,
+	ABUSE_SYNC_NOTIFICATION		= 2
+};
+
+/*
+ * ab_result codes 
+ */
+enum {
+	ABUSE_RESULT_OKAY		= 0,
+	ABUSE_RESULT_MEDIA_FAILURE	= 1,
+	ABUSE_RESULT_DEVICE_FAILURE	= 2
+};
+
+#ifdef __KERNEL__
+#include <linux/bio.h>
+#include <linux/blkdev.h>
+#include <linux/spinlock.h>
+#include <linux/mutex.h>
+
+struct abuse_device {
+	int		ab_number;
+	int		ab_refcnt;
+	loff_t		ab_size;
+	int		ab_flags;
+	int		ab_queue_size;
+	int		ab_max_queue;
+	int		ab_errors;
+
+	struct block_device *ab_device;
+	unsigned	ab_blocksize;
+
+	gfp_t		old_gfp_mask;
+
+	spinlock_t		ab_lock;
+	struct bio 		*ab_bio;
+	struct bio		*ab_biotail;
+	struct mutex		ab_ctl_mutex;
+	wait_queue_head_t	ab_event;
+
+	struct request_queue	*ab_queue;
+	struct gendisk		*ab_disk;
+	struct cdev		*ab_cdev;
+	struct list_head	ab_list;
+
+	/* user xfer area */
+	struct abuse_vec	ab_xfer[BIO_MAX_PAGES];
+};
+
+#endif /* __KERNEL__ */
+
+#endif
diff --git a/include/linux/major.h b/include/linux/major.h
index 6a8ca98..652086c 100644
--- a/include/linux/major.h
+++ b/include/linux/major.h
@@ -75,6 +75,9 @@
 #define IDE4_MAJOR		56
 #define IDE5_MAJOR		57
 
+#define ABUSE_MAJOR		60
+#define ABUSECTL_MAJOR		61
+
 #define SCSI_DISK1_MAJOR	65
 #define SCSI_DISK2_MAJOR	66
 #define SCSI_DISK3_MAJOR	67
-- 
1.6.2.2.471.g6da14


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#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/stat.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <sys/ioctl.h>
#include <poll.h>
#include "include/linux/abuse.h"

void usage(void)
{
	printf("abusectl <cmd>\n"
		"	reset <dev>	   - issue a reset on an abuse device\n"
		"	info <dev>	   - get info from an abuse device\n"
		"	get <dev>	   - get bio from an abuse device\n"
		"	put <dev>	   - put bio to an abuse device\n"
		"	poll <dev>	   - poll for a bio on device\n"
		"	server <dev>	   - act as a server putting bios\n"
		"	setup <dev> <args> - setup device parameters\n"
	 	"		<args> is a list of comma delimited keys\n"
		"		sz/size=<N>		set size (K,M.G ok)\n"
		"		bs/blocksize=<N>	set block size\n"
		"		qs/queusize=<N>		set queue size\n"
		"		ro			make device read-only\n"		
		"		rw			make device writeable\n"		
		"		reconnect		do not reset already setup device\n"		
		);
	exit(1);
}

int get_device(char *fname)
{
	int fd;

	fd = open(fname, O_RDONLY);
	if (fd < 0) {
		perror("open");
		exit(1);
	}
	return fd;
}

int do_reset(int fd)
{
	int ret;
	ret = ioctl(fd, ABUSE_RESET);
	if (ret < 0) {
		perror("ioctl");
		exit(1);
	}
}

int do_info(int fd)
{
	int ret;
	struct abuse_info ab;

	ret = ioctl(fd, ABUSE_GET_STATUS, &ab);
	if (ret < 0) {
		perror("ioctl");
		exit(1);
	}
	printf("ab_size = %lld\n", ab.ab_size);
	printf("ab_number = %d\n", ab.ab_number);
	printf("ab_flags = %x\n", ab.ab_flags);
	printf("ab_blocksize = %d\n", ab.ab_blocksize);
	printf("ab_max_queue = %d\n", ab.ab_max_queue);
	printf("ab_queue_size = %d\n", ab.ab_queue_size);
	printf("ab_errors = %d\n", ab.ab_errors);
}

int do_setup(int fd)
{
	int ret;
	struct abuse_info ab;

	memset(&ab, '\0', sizeof(ab));
	ab.ab_size = 4096 * 4096;
	ab.ab_blocksize = 4096;
	ab.ab_max_queue = 128;
	ab.ab_flags = 0;
	ret = ioctl(fd, ABUSE_SET_STATUS, &ab);
	if (ret < 0) {
		perror("ioctl");
		exit(1);
	}
}

int do_getbio(int fd)
{
	int ret, i;
	struct abuse_xfr_hdr hdr;
	struct abuse_vec xfr[512];

	memset(&hdr, '\0', sizeof(hdr));
	hdr.ab_transfer_address = (__u64)xfr;
	ret = ioctl(fd, ABUSE_GET_BIO, &hdr);
	if (ret < 0) {
		perror("ioctl");
		exit(1);
	}
	if (hdr.ab_command == ABUSE_READ)
		printf("READ\n");
	else
		printf("WRITE\n");
	printf("sector = %lld\n", hdr.ab_sector);
	printf("vcnt = %d\n", hdr.ab_vec_count);
	for (i = 0; i < hdr.ab_vec_count; i++) {
		printf("len%d = %lld, offset = %llx\n", i, xfr[i].ab_len,
			xfr[i].ab_offset);
	}
}

int do_putbio(int fd)
{
	int ret, i;
	struct abuse_xfr_hdr hdr;
	struct abuse_vec xfr[512];

	memset(&hdr, '\0', sizeof(hdr));
	hdr.ab_transfer_address = (__u64)xfr;
	ret = ioctl(fd, ABUSE_GET_BIO, &hdr);
	if (ret < 0) {
		perror("ioctl");
		exit(1);
	}
	if (hdr.ab_command == ABUSE_READ)
		printf("READ\n");
	else
		printf("WRITE\n");
	printf("sector = %lld\n", hdr.ab_sector);
	printf("vcnt = %d\n", hdr.ab_vec_count);
	for (i = 0; i < hdr.ab_vec_count; i++) {
		printf("len%d = %lld, offset = %llx\n", i, xfr[i].ab_len,
			xfr[i].ab_offset);
		xfr[i].ab_address = (__u64)malloc(xfr[i].ab_len);
	}
	ret = ioctl(fd, ABUSE_PUT_BIO, &hdr);
	if (ret < 0) {
		perror("ioctl");
		exit(1);
	}
	for (i = 0; i < hdr.ab_vec_count; i++) {
		free((void *)xfr[i].ab_address);
	}
}

#ifndef POLLMSG
#define POLLMSG         0x0400
#endif

int do_poll(int fd)
{
	int ret;
	struct pollfd fds;

	fds.fd = fd;
	fds.events = POLLMSG;
	ret = poll(&fds, 1, -1);
	if (ret < 0) {
		perror("poll");
		exit(1);
	}
	printf("%d %lx\n", ret, fds.revents);
}

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
	int fd;

	if (argc < 3) {
		usage();
	}
	fd = get_device(argv[2]);
	if (!strcmp(argv[1], "reset")) {
		do_reset(fd);
	} else if (!strcmp(argv[1], "info")) {
		do_info(fd);
	} else if (!strcmp(argv[1], "setup")) {
		do_setup(fd);
	} else if (!strcmp(argv[1], "get")) {
		do_getbio(fd);
	} else if (!strcmp(argv[1], "put")) {
		do_putbio(fd);
	} else if (!strcmp(argv[1], "poll")) {
		do_poll(fd);
	} else if (!strcmp(argv[1], "server")) {
		for (;;) {
			do_poll(fd);
			do_putbio(fd);
		}
	} else usage();
}

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-27  9:57 [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation Zachary Amsden
@ 2009-07-27 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
  2009-07-27 13:25   ` Alan Cox
  2009-08-07 18:08 ` Pavel Machek
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Peter Zijlstra @ 2009-07-27 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Zachary Amsden
  Cc: linux-kernel, torvalds, axboe, hch, akpm, Paul.Clements, tytso,
	Tejun Heo, miklos

On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 23:57 -1000, Zachary Amsden wrote:
> Well, it may be a good, bad, idiotic or brilliant idea depending on your
> personal philosophy.  I went down this route out of pragmatism.
> Hopefully I have not fully re-invented the wheel.
> 
> The patch included allows one to implement a kernel level block device
> in userspace, using an ioctl() based interface to create a sized device
> with given properties, and then receive and respond to bio requests
> issued to the device.  One can poll on the associated control socket to
> allow efficient servicing of device requests.  So far only strict copy
> to/from user memory is supported, there is no fancy page flipping or
> mapping operations.

Somehow this made me think of FUSE/CUSE... should this be named aBUSE?
Oh wait it is :-), what I'm after is I guess is, can we share some of
the FUSE/CUSE code?

I can only imagine the fun we'll end up with when someone tries swapon
on a user-space block device.. aptly named.


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-27 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
@ 2009-07-27 13:25   ` Alan Cox
  2009-07-27 19:46     ` Zachary Amsden
  2009-07-28  1:21     ` Tejun Heo
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Alan Cox @ 2009-07-27 13:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Zijlstra
  Cc: Zachary Amsden, linux-kernel, torvalds, axboe, hch, akpm,
	Paul.Clements, tytso, Tejun Heo, miklos

> Somehow this made me think of FUSE/CUSE... should this be named aBUSE?
> Oh wait it is :-), what I'm after is I guess is, can we share some of
> the FUSE/CUSE code?

It reminds me of the existing and perfectly functional network block
device (nbd) we already have and which has also been present for years.

Alan

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-27 13:25   ` Alan Cox
@ 2009-07-27 19:46     ` Zachary Amsden
  2009-07-27 20:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
  2009-07-27 21:02       ` Alan Cox
  2009-07-28  1:21     ` Tejun Heo
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Zachary Amsden @ 2009-07-27 19:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox
  Cc: Peter Zijlstra, linux-kernel, torvalds, axboe, hch, akpm,
	Paul.Clements, tytso, Tejun Heo, miklos

Alan Cox wrote:
>> Somehow this made me think of FUSE/CUSE... should this be named aBUSE?
>> Oh wait it is :-), what I'm after is I guess is, can we share some of
>> the FUSE/CUSE code?

Well, it is A Block device in User SpacE :)  I don't think there is a
lot of code sharing benefit in some 800 odd lines, but I could be wrong.

> It reminds me of the existing and perfectly functional network block
> device (nbd) we already have and which has also been present for years.

Yes, I agree, in fact I looked at nbd as I was writing this, but I
believe it is different enough to warrant further investigation.

The network block device requires access to a socket, which the code at
least seems to imply brings up the potential for deadlocks when
self-hosting.  This was designed to explicitly support self-hosting.

This device can be used without CONFIG_NET (not a big advantage, I
agree), and is completely connectionless, which I would argue is a big
advantage.

NBD is perfectly functional, but it seemed more complicated than
necessary for a purely local implementation.  A fully functional null
server (just returns zeros, full error checking and normal whitespace)
can be implemented in about 60 lines of C code, which I don't think is
the case for NBD.  Of course, I'm sure it is possible with PERL bindings
as a one-liner, but the fundamental argument isn't about lines, it's
about complexity.  NBD requires socket allocation, listening and
connection; this requires only opening of a device node.

Can you swap over NBD?  Assuming one had pinned the userspace program
and it pre-allocated all memory so no pagein / alloc was required, would
it be deadlock proof?  I believe there are structure allocations
required for the socket implementation that go beyond the basic BIO
allocations, therefore making it impossible.  In /theory/, one should be
able to swap over this device.  In practice, it's probably a really bad
idea.

It seems then that NBD is a strict subset of the functionality provided
by this type of module.

Zach

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-27 19:46     ` Zachary Amsden
@ 2009-07-27 20:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
  2009-07-27 21:02       ` Alan Cox
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Peter Zijlstra @ 2009-07-27 20:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Zachary Amsden
  Cc: Alan Cox, linux-kernel, torvalds, axboe, hch, akpm,
	Paul.Clements, tytso, Tejun Heo, miklos

On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 09:46 -1000, Zachary Amsden wrote:
> Can you swap over NBD?  Assuming one had pinned the userspace program
> and it pre-allocated all memory so no pagein / alloc was required, would
> it be deadlock proof?  I believe there are structure allocations
> required for the socket implementation that go beyond the basic BIO
> allocations, therefore making it impossible.  In /theory/, one should be
> able to swap over this device.  In practice, it's probably a really bad
> idea.

I've got patches to make swap over network work, with those swap over
NBD works until you loose connection. NBDs great weakness (aside from
funny code) is that it does the connection management in userspace,
which makes recovering from connection loss when swapping over it
utterly impossible.

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-27 19:46     ` Zachary Amsden
  2009-07-27 20:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
@ 2009-07-27 21:02       ` Alan Cox
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Alan Cox @ 2009-07-27 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Zachary Amsden
  Cc: Peter Zijlstra, linux-kernel, torvalds, axboe, hch, akpm,
	Paul.Clements, tytso, Tejun Heo, miklos

> Can you swap over NBD?  Assuming one had pinned the userspace program
> and it pre-allocated all memory so no pagein / alloc was required, would
> it be deadlock proof?  I believe there are structure allocations
> required for the socket implementation that go beyond the basic BIO
> allocations, therefore making it impossible.  In /theory/, one should be
> able to swap over this device.  In practice, it's probably a really bad
> idea.

In practice since you mmap an object for write and the only free pages
left may be mmap write dirty pages to go to a file system it ought to be
possible.

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-27 13:25   ` Alan Cox
  2009-07-27 19:46     ` Zachary Amsden
@ 2009-07-28  1:21     ` Tejun Heo
  2009-07-28  3:53       ` Zachary Amsden
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Tejun Heo @ 2009-07-28  1:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox
  Cc: Peter Zijlstra, Zachary Amsden, linux-kernel, torvalds, axboe,
	hch, akpm, Paul.Clements, tytso, miklos

Hello,

Alan Cox wrote:
>> Somehow this made me think of FUSE/CUSE... should this be named aBUSE?
>> Oh wait it is :-), what I'm after is I guess is, can we share some of
>> the FUSE/CUSE code?
> 
> It reminds me of the existing and perfectly functional network block
> device (nbd) we already have and which has also been present for years.

Yeah, I think this is the biggest hurdle against (a)BUSE.  Is it
sufficiently different from nbd?  nbd-like functionality can be
implemented something via FUSE and maybe it can be said that things
are cleaner that way but nbd has been in the kernel for a long time
now and it's definitely much easier to do swap over it when the whole
thing is in kernel.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-28  1:21     ` Tejun Heo
@ 2009-07-28  3:53       ` Zachary Amsden
  2009-07-28 10:27         ` Alan Cox
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Zachary Amsden @ 2009-07-28  3:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tejun Heo
  Cc: Alan Cox, Peter Zijlstra, linux-kernel, torvalds, axboe, hch,
	akpm, Paul.Clements, tytso, miklos

Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Alan Cox wrote:
>>> Somehow this made me think of FUSE/CUSE... should this be named aBUSE?
>>> Oh wait it is :-), what I'm after is I guess is, can we share some of
>>> the FUSE/CUSE code?
>> It reminds me of the existing and perfectly functional network block
>> device (nbd) we already have and which has also been present for years.
> 
> Yeah, I think this is the biggest hurdle against (a)BUSE.  Is it
> sufficiently different from nbd?  nbd-like functionality can be
> implemented something via FUSE and maybe it can be said that things
> are cleaner that way but nbd has been in the kernel for a long time
> now and it's definitely much easier to do swap over it when the whole
> thing is in kernel.

The only real difference from this and the nbd is that the nbd is
explicitly connection oriented, while this is intentionally
connectionless.  That was an interesting property, but turned out to be
not to be the best for what I was trying to do.

I'm actually going to go ahead and use nbd instead.  All I need a block
device that supports partitions with a userspace driver.

So maybe someone will find this useful, for now it is preserved in LKML
archives and the patch should continue to apply for some time.

BTW, implementing something like this via FUSE would be extremely
unpleasant.  I'd need another layer on top, probably via the loop
device, to get to the actual partitions of the block devices.

Zach

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-28  3:53       ` Zachary Amsden
@ 2009-07-28 10:27         ` Alan Cox
  2009-07-28 16:00           ` Linus Torvalds
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Alan Cox @ 2009-07-28 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Zachary Amsden
  Cc: Tejun Heo, Peter Zijlstra, linux-kernel, torvalds, axboe, hch,
	akpm, Paul.Clements, tytso, miklos

> BTW, implementing something like this via FUSE would be extremely
> unpleasant.  I'd need another layer on top, probably via the loop
> device, to get to the actual partitions of the block devices.

Use device mapper. Really we should shoot all the partition code in the
kernel but the back compatibility is a bit tricky. We don't actually need
the partition code any more.

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-28 10:27         ` Alan Cox
@ 2009-07-28 16:00           ` Linus Torvalds
  2009-07-28 18:36             ` Kyle Moffett
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Linus Torvalds @ 2009-07-28 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox
  Cc: Zachary Amsden, Tejun Heo, Peter Zijlstra, linux-kernel, axboe,
	hch, akpm, Paul.Clements, tytso, miklos



On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Alan Cox wrote:
>
> Use device mapper. Really we should shoot all the partition code in the
> kernel but the back compatibility is a bit tricky. We don't actually need
> the partition code any more.

Really, we should _not_ "shoot all the partition code in the kernel". 
Quite the reverse.

You need the kernel to read the disk anyway, you're _much_ better off 
having the kernel know about the partitioning etc. There are absolutely 
zero upsides to making the bootup be dependent on yet another user land 
tool, and then effectively forcing people to use initrd whether they want 
it or not - just in order to find the real root.

The fact that some distributions already go too far, and use DM whether it 
makes sense or not is only inconveniencing real users. It makes things 
like data portability much harder. I have had real-life cases where I 
wanted to move a disk from one machine to another, only to notice that the 
crazy default for the distro I had used was to make it impossible, because 
all the filesystems crossed disks.

I've since learnt to not use DM (and instead doing a very inconvenient 
"partition everything by hand because the install tool doesn't allow for 
any simple automated way to make a sane install"), and to just put /home 
on one disk and / on the other, and then I can way more easily just move 
my /home disk around, for example.

Yes, I realize that MD is convenient for a certain class of users, but a 
_lot_ of distro people seem to totally miss all the inconveniences. 
Possibly because they care more about "enterprise" customers than about 
people who tinker.

				Linus

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-28 16:00           ` Linus Torvalds
@ 2009-07-28 18:36             ` Kyle Moffett
  2009-07-28 18:51               ` Linus Torvalds
                                 ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Kyle Moffett @ 2009-07-28 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linus Torvalds
  Cc: Alan Cox, Zachary Amsden, Tejun Heo, Peter Zijlstra,
	linux-kernel, axboe, hch, akpm, Paul.Clements, tytso, miklos

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:00, Linus
Torvalds<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> The fact that some distributions already go too far, and use DM whether it
> makes sense or not is only inconveniencing real users. It makes things
> like data portability much harder. I have had real-life cases where I
> wanted to move a disk from one machine to another, only to notice that the
> crazy default for the distro I had used was to make it impossible, because
> all the filesystems crossed disks.
>
> I've since learnt to not use DM (and instead doing a very inconvenient
> "partition everything by hand because the install tool doesn't allow for
> any simple automated way to make a sane install"), and to just put /home
> on one disk and / on the other, and then I can way more easily just move
> my /home disk around, for example.

That's not so much an argument against LVM as it is an argument for
fixing those distro installer tools...  Using device-mapper to map
standard Linux partition-tables has the following benefits:

  (1) The ability to rearrange, resize, and restructure
partition-tables on the fly.  The existing "re-read partition tables"
infrastructure does not safely and reasonably handle changes to the
partition-table while partitions are mounted.  Using device-mapper you
can shrink the mapped space associated with a partition then insert
and map a new partition in that gap... all without rebooting.

  (2) If you use DM via LVM and you have a bit of unallocated space,
you can create block-level snapshots.  This is useful for *much* more
than just a datacenter, it makes home backup tools much easier and
safer too.

  (3) Again, using LVM you can shrink one partition (/) and grow
another (/home), even if you didn't guess right in your initial
allocations.

Personally I am also extremely fond of running commands like "mke2fs
-j /dev/mapper/ares-tempdata" instead of "mke2fs -j /dev/sdb4"... err,
shoot, I meant /dev/sda4, there goes my /home partition...

Even when you are moving hard drives from one computer into another,
it makes it much easier keep track of them if you use the server name
in the "volume group" name.  When plug both backup drives into my
desktop, they're easily distinguished as /dev/mapper/ares_bkup-home
and /dev/mapper/philyra_bkup-home.

Admittedly there are some pretty crappy tools out there... I've had
problems with a few which could not reliably do partition math.  (if
the partitioner tells you that you have a 10240MB disk, and you tell
it to put 5120MB on one partition and 5120MB on the other, it should
not tell you that you over-allocated the disk by 1MB, even if it might
need that for metadata).

Perhaps what we need is a really minimal klibc toolkit built (by
default) as part of the kernel and embedded into the kernel image.  If
the bootloader specifies an external initrd then the in-kernel one
would either be ignored and discarded; otherwise it would provide
clean backwards-compatibility for any boot-time features and arguments
that have been removed from the kernel proper.

Cheers,
Kyle Moffett

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-28 18:36             ` Kyle Moffett
@ 2009-07-28 18:51               ` Linus Torvalds
  2009-07-28 19:07               ` Alan Cox
  2009-07-28 19:49               ` Andi Kleen
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Linus Torvalds @ 2009-07-28 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kyle Moffett
  Cc: Alan Cox, Zachary Amsden, Tejun Heo, Peter Zijlstra,
	linux-kernel, axboe, hch, akpm, Paul.Clements, tytso, miklos



On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Kyle Moffett wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:00, Linus
> Torvalds<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > I've since learnt to not use DM (and instead doing a very inconvenient
> > "partition everything by hand because the install tool doesn't allow for
> > any simple automated way to make a sane install"), and to just put /home
> > on one disk and / on the other, and then I can way more easily just move
> > my /home disk around, for example.
> 
> That's not so much an argument against LVM as it is an argument for
> fixing those distro installer tools... 

Oh, I agree. I'd love the distros to not force DM on me.

But that wasn't my point. My point was that people who argue for DM (and 
user-space tools for partition detection) always argue without even taking 
the disadvantages into account.

> Using device-mapper to map standard Linux partition-tables has the 
> following benefits:

You're missing the point.

I _know_ the benefits. I'm pointing out the problems and downsides. Which 
too often get ignored, just because people think that the benefits are 
so big, and benefits to everybody. They're not. 

The whole dynamic resizing etc is totally worthless for many users: the 
fact that it is an advantage to _some_ doesn't make it an advantage to 
everybody. And some of the advantages you mention (naming by mount-point 
or UUID or etc) have nothing to do with DM itself, and work fine without 
it.

		Linus

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-28 18:36             ` Kyle Moffett
  2009-07-28 18:51               ` Linus Torvalds
@ 2009-07-28 19:07               ` Alan Cox
  2009-07-28 19:49               ` Andi Kleen
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Alan Cox @ 2009-07-28 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kyle Moffett
  Cc: Linus Torvalds, Zachary Amsden, Tejun Heo, Peter Zijlstra,
	linux-kernel, axboe, hch, akpm, Paul.Clements, tytso, miklos

> That's not so much an argument against LVM as it is an argument for
> fixing those distro installer tools...  Using device-mapper to map
> standard Linux partition-tables has the following benefits:

I'll add another one: If your disk blows up when you touch sector 0 you
can rescue it in Linux without hacking the kernel.

It doesn't mean you have to ditch partition processing out of the kernel,
merely to be able to turn it off for some devices. Actually removing it
would never be practical.





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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-28 18:36             ` Kyle Moffett
  2009-07-28 18:51               ` Linus Torvalds
  2009-07-28 19:07               ` Alan Cox
@ 2009-07-28 19:49               ` Andi Kleen
  2009-07-28 20:50                 ` Linus Torvalds
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Andi Kleen @ 2009-07-28 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kyle Moffett
  Cc: Linus Torvalds, Alan Cox, Zachary Amsden, Tejun Heo,
	Peter Zijlstra, linux-kernel, axboe, hch, akpm, Paul.Clements,
	tytso, miklos

Kyle Moffett <kyle@moffetthome.net> writes:
>
>   (1) The ability to rearrange, resize, and restructure
> partition-tables on the fly.  The existing "re-read partition tables"
> infrastructure does not safely and reasonably handle changes to the
> partition-table while partitions are mounted. 

It doesn't today (and I really hate it too), but is there a hard reason it
couldn't be fixed to support that properly? 

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-28 19:49               ` Andi Kleen
@ 2009-07-28 20:50                 ` Linus Torvalds
  2009-07-28 21:09                   ` Andi Kleen
  2009-07-28 22:56                   ` Theodore Tso
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Linus Torvalds @ 2009-07-28 20:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andi Kleen
  Cc: Kyle Moffett, Alan Cox, Zachary Amsden, Tejun Heo,
	Peter Zijlstra, linux-kernel, axboe, hch, akpm, Paul.Clements,
	tytso, miklos



On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Andi Kleen wrote:

> Kyle Moffett <kyle@moffetthome.net> writes:
> >
> >   (1) The ability to rearrange, resize, and restructure
> > partition-tables on the fly.  The existing "re-read partition tables"
> > infrastructure does not safely and reasonably handle changes to the
> > partition-table while partitions are mounted. 
> 
> It doesn't today (and I really hate it too), but is there a hard reason it
> couldn't be fixed to support that properly? 

If something has a partition open (and it doesn't really even have to be a 
mounted filesystem, altough that's obviously the most relevant case), how 
can you reasonably change the partition from underneath it? So I assume 
you mean that partitions were opened earlier (for a mount) would not be 
touched.

And these days, that _should_ just work. The "reread partition table" 
operation should just leave the old bdev's around (so a mounted filesystem 
simply won't _see_ the new partitions, but will continue to use the old 
one), and for all I know that might even work these days.

[ Here "these days" is admittedly only in comparison to the _original_ 
 Linux code, which used block numbers. Many years ago. ]

Filesystems long ago _used_ to index things by device number and block - 
and that meant that re-reading partition tables was _really_ dangerous, 
because the "device number" would just magically mean something else for a 
mounted filesystem. But we've indexed things by bdev for a longish time 
now, and most (all?) filesystems use "sb_bread()" instead of bread etc.

So I think re-reading the partition tables should be safe these days. It 
definitely didn't _use_ to be the case due to dev_t issues, but that's 
really ancient.

It may be that we just have the old check in place ("don't allow 
re-reading if something has mounted a partition"), and we could just get 
rid of it. I have not looked. 

But if you actually meant that re-reading the partition table should 
_change_ a "struct block_dev" that is in use, then I think that would be a 
bad idea. At the very least, it should involve a re-mount or something.

		Linus

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-28 20:50                 ` Linus Torvalds
@ 2009-07-28 21:09                   ` Andi Kleen
  2009-07-28 22:56                   ` Theodore Tso
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Andi Kleen @ 2009-07-28 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linus Torvalds
  Cc: Andi Kleen, Kyle Moffett, Alan Cox, Zachary Amsden, Tejun Heo,
	Peter Zijlstra, linux-kernel, axboe, hch, akpm, Paul.Clements,
	tytso, miklos

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 01:50:56PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Andi Kleen wrote:
> 
> > Kyle Moffett <kyle@moffetthome.net> writes:
> > >
> > >   (1) The ability to rearrange, resize, and restructure
> > > partition-tables on the fly.  The existing "re-read partition tables"
> > > infrastructure does not safely and reasonably handle changes to the
> > > partition-table while partitions are mounted. 
> > 
> > It doesn't today (and I really hate it too), but is there a hard reason it
> > couldn't be fixed to support that properly? 
> 
> If something has a partition open (and it doesn't really even have to be a 
> mounted filesystem, altough that's obviously the most relevant case), how 
> can you reasonably change the partition from underneath it?

Well LVM can do that, why not standard partitions?

e.g. extending should be totally fine. The file system can continue
using the old size until you run the online fs extender tool which
does then the right magic to sync the file system state. I believe
that is how it works on LVM.

Shrinking is more difficult, but giving root enough rope ... 
And we got offline shrinkers at least.

> So I assume 
> you mean that partitions were opened earlier (for a mount) would not be 
> touched.

Also right now you can't change any other partition.

I know part of the problem is that I like using fdisk 
(simply because I think the person who designed parted's user interface
was on something unholy) and apparently it works better
when you use the right ioctls to add/remove partitions
instead of wholesale reread like fdisk.
Perhaps the reread table ioctl can be just fixed.

> It may be that we just have the old check in place ("don't allow 
> re-reading if something has mounted a partition"), and we could just get 
> rid of it. I have not looked. 

Yes I'm sure there's lot of historical baggage here.

> 
> But if you actually meant that re-reading the partition table should 
> _change_ a "struct block_dev" that is in use, then I think that would be a 
> bad idea. At the very least, it should involve a re-mount or something.

LVM already does it afaik.

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-28 20:50                 ` Linus Torvalds
  2009-07-28 21:09                   ` Andi Kleen
@ 2009-07-28 22:56                   ` Theodore Tso
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Theodore Tso @ 2009-07-28 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linus Torvalds
  Cc: Andi Kleen, Kyle Moffett, Alan Cox, Zachary Amsden, Tejun Heo,
	Peter Zijlstra, linux-kernel, axboe, hch, akpm, Paul.Clements,
	miklos

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 01:50:56PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> Filesystems long ago _used_ to index things by device number and block - 
> and that meant that re-reading partition tables was _really_ dangerous, 
> because the "device number" would just magically mean something else for a 
> mounted filesystem. But we've indexed things by bdev for a longish time 
> now, and most (all?) filesystems use "sb_bread()" instead of bread etc.

Filesystems don't, but some userspace programs do depend on the dev_t
returned by stat to uniquely identify a mounted filesystem.  (And it's
guaranteed by POSIX).  So what this means is that if we're going to
allow re-reading the partition table, we should (a) avoid changing the
dev_t used by any mounted filesystem, and (b) we should either assign
a new dev_t for any new partitions, or we should disallow mounting a
filesystem with a new dev_t already in use by an already mounted
filesystem with the same dev_t before the partition table was
reorganized.

						- Ted

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-07-27  9:57 [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation Zachary Amsden
  2009-07-27 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
@ 2009-08-07 18:08 ` Pavel Machek
  2009-08-10 22:47   ` Zachary Amsden
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2009-08-07 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Zachary Amsden
  Cc: linux-kernel, torvalds, axboe, hch, akpm, Paul.Clements, tytso

Hi!

> Well, it may be a good, bad, idiotic or brilliant idea depending on your
> personal philosophy.  I went down this route out of pragmatism.
> Hopefully I have not fully re-invented the wheel.

I did, long ago. I called it nbd... aha and you know about it (from
following mails in thread).

> accidental deadlock.  There may of course be some hidden deep deadlock
> potential in such a device, especially if one decided to use it as a
> swap device, but again, this is a philosophical issue.

What's philosophical about 'it does not work for swap or dirty mmap'?

(last time I checked, dirty mmap data behaved very much like swap).

(And yes, nbd has same problem. It should be safe for r/o access to
localhost, but may deadlock when it is mounted locally...)

And yes, I believe that's show stopper. OTOH if you _can_ solve
that... then you have some rather significant advantage over nbd.

(But guaranteeing progress for dirty writeout will be tricky even with
mlocked userland, AFAICT...)

-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
  2009-08-07 18:08 ` Pavel Machek
@ 2009-08-10 22:47   ` Zachary Amsden
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Zachary Amsden @ 2009-08-10 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pavel Machek
  Cc: linux-kernel, torvalds, axboe, hch, akpm, Paul.Clements, tytso

Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!

Hey!

> And yes, I believe that's show stopper. OTOH if you _can_ solve
> that... then you have some rather significant advantage over nbd.
> 
> (But guaranteeing progress for dirty writeout will be tricky even with
> mlocked userland, AFAICT...)

Actually, impossible, even with mlocked userland (*) which is what led
me to abandon going any further with it.  The problem is, to commit any
data, one must make a system call, thus consuming more resources.  It's
merely a toy, nothing more.  Sometimes it might be a useful toy, as nbd,
but nbd, being in kernel, has at least a better chance of solving the
swap problem.

(*) strictly speaking, it is possible to guarantee progress of the
device for read/write only to a finite region of mlocked memory and an
infinite region (limited only by size of off_t) of read-only data
computable with finite mlocked space.  Obviously, neither of these
(swap-to-ram), and (swap-over-ro-media) are actually useful for swap.

Zach

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* Re: [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
@ 2009-07-28 20:37 devzero
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: devzero @ 2009-07-28 20:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: zamsden; +Cc: Alan Cox, linux-kernel

Hello Zach, 

this older thread deals with some aspects of that idea: http://communities.vmware.com/message/577841
i have collected some links (added there) quite a while ago and also added a project proposal to http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelProjects, too.
i don`t know if you came across them, but it`s nice to see that someone comes up with this stuff again and maybe it`s of interest for you.

as we had vmware vmdk image mounter v1 being implemented via nbd and v2 via fuse, i assume both are not optimal solutions?
at least the nbd version sucked big. 

regards
roland

ps:
oh, btw - you quit vmware? that`s quite a loss for them and for the vmware community, i think.  too much conflicting basic attitude concerning opensource/gpl? ;)



> List:       linux-kernel
> Subject:    [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation
> From:       Zachary Amsden <zamsden () redhat ! com>
> Date:       2009-07-27 9:57:10
> Message-ID: 4A6D79F6.3050509 () redhat ! com
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> Well, it may be a good, bad, idiotic or brilliant idea depending on your
> personal philosophy.  I went down this route out of pragmatism.
> Hopefully I have not fully re-invented the wheel.
> 
> The patch included allows one to implement a kernel level block device
> in userspace, using an ioctl() based interface to create a sized device
> with given properties, and then receive and respond to bio requests
> issued to the device.  One can poll on the associated control socket to
> allow efficient servicing of device requests.  So far only strict copy
> to/from user memory is supported, there is no fancy page flipping or
> mapping operations.
> 
> Which there probably should not be.  This device is not about
> performance, is it about extending the boundaries of the kernel to the
> almost improbable.  Now one can literally create any kind of device
> imaginable and use it as a block device in the kernel, mounting
> partitions and such and using them as if they existed natively.  I have
> attached a very simple dummy program showing how to do this.
> 
> The design requirements 'kernel block device in user space' to me
> demanded that the interface be stateless.  Userspace can crash, be
> killed, or interrupted.  Block devices cannot, they must answer all
> requests, even if that answer is a failure.  Thus there exists no state
> between the kernel and the userspace process(es) or threads serving the
> device.  No establishment of connections, just a queue which can be read
> and answered via get and put, the ioctl operators available.  This
> allows a completely flexible userspace implementation, with multiple
> processes, etc, and allows complete recovery via a simple reset command
> if those programs fail.  I believe this also prevents any possibility of
> accidental deadlock.  There may of course be some hidden deep deadlock
> potential in such a device, especially if one decided to use it as a
> swap device, but again, this is a philosophical issue.
> 
> Enough talking, let's have at it and see where this goes.  Obviously
> this is experimental and open to feedback.  Considering it turns kernel
> interfaces on their head, I have given it what I feel is an appropriate
> name.
> 
> If there is any person or list you know that I forgot to copy this to,
> please forward it on to them.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Zach
> 
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2009-07-27  9:57 [PATCH] Allow userspace block device implementation Zachary Amsden
2009-07-27 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-27 13:25   ` Alan Cox
2009-07-27 19:46     ` Zachary Amsden
2009-07-27 20:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-27 21:02       ` Alan Cox
2009-07-28  1:21     ` Tejun Heo
2009-07-28  3:53       ` Zachary Amsden
2009-07-28 10:27         ` Alan Cox
2009-07-28 16:00           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-28 18:36             ` Kyle Moffett
2009-07-28 18:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-28 19:07               ` Alan Cox
2009-07-28 19:49               ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-28 20:50                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-28 21:09                   ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-28 22:56                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-08-07 18:08 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 22:47   ` Zachary Amsden
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