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From: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
To: hancockrwd@gmail.com
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, bzolnier@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] fix problems with NETIF_F_HIGHDMA in networking  drivers
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:38:19 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100228033706G.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51f3faa71002271015i7c9ec45j18381b1269bfd799@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:15:19 -0600
Robert Hancock <hancockrwd@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:05 AM, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> > From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:59:31 +0100
> >
> >> Having IOMMU (even if it is only a software one, i.e. this would
> >> mean swiotlb for x86-32/highmem) always in place would simplify
> >> things greatly..
> >
> > I agree, things would be a lot simpler.
> 
> Yeah, the situation kind of sucks on the platforms that don't have any
> IOMMU support, since it means that the DMA API can't handle anything
> over 4GB properly and you need all these hacks in the block layer,
> networking layer, etc. It would be nice if some kind of IOMMU support
> could be relied upon always.

When I proposed such approach (always use swiotlb) before, IIRC,
the objections were:

- better to make allocation respect dma_mask. (I don't think that this
  approach is possible since we don't know which device handles data
  later when we allocate memory).

- swiotlb is not good for small systems since it allocates too much
  memory (we can fix this though).

There might be more.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
To: hancockrwd@gmail.com
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, bzolnier@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] fix problems with NETIF_F_HIGHDMA in networking drivers
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:38:19 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100228033706G.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51f3faa71002271015i7c9ec45j18381b1269bfd799@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:15:19 -0600
Robert Hancock <hancockrwd@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:05 AM, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> > From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:59:31 +0100
> >
> >> Having IOMMU (even if it is only a software one, i.e. this would
> >> mean swiotlb for x86-32/highmem) always in place would simplify
> >> things greatly..
> >
> > I agree, things would be a lot simpler.
> 
> Yeah, the situation kind of sucks on the platforms that don't have any
> IOMMU support, since it means that the DMA API can't handle anything
> over 4GB properly and you need all these hacks in the block layer,
> networking layer, etc. It would be nice if some kind of IOMMU support
> could be relied upon always.

When I proposed such approach (always use swiotlb) before, IIRC,
the objections were:

- better to make allocation respect dma_mask. (I don't think that this
  approach is possible since we don't know which device handles data
  later when we allocate memory).

- swiotlb is not good for small systems since it allocates too much
  memory (we can fix this though).

There might be more.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-27 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-23  2:45 [RFC PATCH] fix problems with NETIF_F_HIGHDMA in networking drivers Robert Hancock
2010-02-26  9:36 ` David Miller
2010-02-26 14:46   ` Robert Hancock
2010-02-26 14:46     ` Robert Hancock
2010-02-26 15:25     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2010-02-27  3:08       ` Robert Hancock
2010-02-27  3:08         ` Robert Hancock
2010-02-27  9:53         ` David Miller
2010-02-27 11:59           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2010-02-27 12:05             ` David Miller
2010-02-27 18:15               ` Robert Hancock
2010-02-27 18:15                 ` Robert Hancock
2010-02-27 18:38                 ` FUJITA Tomonori [this message]
2010-02-27 18:38                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-02-28  8:16                   ` David Miller
2010-02-28  8:16                     ` David Miller
2010-03-01 16:34                     ` Was: Re: [RFC PATCH] fix problems with NETIF_F_HIGHDMA in networking, Now: SWIOTLB dynamic allocation Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-03-01 21:12                       ` Robert Hancock
2010-03-01 21:12                         ` Robert Hancock
2010-03-02  4:40                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-02  4:40                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-03-02  4:40                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-02-27 17:59           ` [RFC PATCH] fix problems with NETIF_F_HIGHDMA in networking drivers Robert Hancock
2010-02-27 17:59             ` Robert Hancock
2010-02-27 18:38             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-02-27 18:38               ` FUJITA Tomonori

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