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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dima Zavin <dmitriyz@google.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@cam.ac.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@verdurent.com>,
	Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Ambient Light Sensors subsystem
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:46:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100310204626.GB1394@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100303190753.GB11471@core.coreip.homeip.net>

Hi!

> > > Because in general ambient light sensor may have nothing to do with the
> > > screen brightness. The fact that all current uses are tied to
> > > controlling screen brightness is coincidential. You could use it as well
> > > to turn on the lights in the kitchen if it is getting too dark...
> > 
> > But my point is, it acts pretty much like a key on a keyboard 
> > _regardless_. 
> > 
> > Sure, you migth use it to turn up the lights too. But how is that 
> > different from having a switch to do the same? Again, it doesn't sound 
> > that different from a key to me.
> 
> I guess for me the distinction is that the event was not caused by an
> action of a human being but by change in environment.

Well, I seen people covering light sensor by hand to change screen
brightness :-).

> Also, if we decide that input layer is the best place for such devices,
> it should not be a key but absolute event, ABS_LIGHT_LEVEL or something.

Yep.

> > I agree that that's not true in many other situations. A cable insertion 
> > event is about the networking, not about some independent input. The kind 
> > of application that cares about network cable presense is _not_ the kind 
> > of app that would care about keyboard input. Same goes for voltage.
> 
> What about magnetometers, accelerometers and so forth? I still do not
> think they are pure input layer devices although it is possible to build
> a bridge modules so they could plug into input framework if desired.

At least on android, accelerometers are primarily human interaction
device -- for screen rotation. And biggest use of
magnetometer+accelerometer on android is actually looking around in
streetview...

									Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-10 20:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-01 19:41 [GIT PULL] Ambient Light Sensors subsystem Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03  6:13 ` Dima Zavin
2010-03-03  9:34   ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-03 10:29     ` Dima Zavin
2010-03-03 11:02       ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-03 11:10       ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 13:07       ` Linus Walleij
2010-03-03 10:30   ` Linus Walleij
2010-03-03 11:19     ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 17:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-03 17:51     ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 18:41     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-03-03 18:52       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-03 19:07         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-03-03 19:33           ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 20:08             ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 22:02             ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-03 23:08               ` Dima Zavin
2010-03-04  9:22                 ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-07 20:49                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-03-08  6:29                   ` Dima Zavin
2010-03-05  7:38             ` Amit Kucheria
2010-03-05 10:58               ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 21:38           ` Dima Zavin
2010-03-03 21:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 11:19               ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-07 12:34                 ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-07 12:57                   ` J.I. Cameron
2010-03-08  9:58                 ` Dima Zavin
2010-03-08 10:24                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-07 20:42               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-03-08 10:00                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-18 14:34                 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-03 21:56             ` Mike Chan
2010-03-03 22:05               ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-10 20:46           ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2010-03-22  0:13           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-03-22  4:27             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-03-03 19:20         ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 19:29           ` Manu Abraham
2010-03-03 19:45             ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 20:08               ` Manu Abraham
2010-03-03 20:37                 ` Jonathan Cameron

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