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From: Dima Zavin <dmitriyz@google.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@cam.ac.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@verdurent.com>,
	Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Ambient Light Sensors subsystem
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:38:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <404ea8001003031338j34847961jd8a7114bbc45603a@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100303190753.GB11471@core.coreip.homeip.net>

>> Sure, you migth use it to turn up the lights too. But how is that
>> different from having a switch to do the same? Again, it doesn't sound
>> that different from a key to me.
>
> I guess for me the distinction is that the event was not caused by an
> action of a human being but by change in environment.
>
> Also, if we decide that input layer is the best place for such devices,
> it should not be a key but absolute event, ABS_LIGHT_LEVEL or something.

Agreed, a key is not the best approach. We currently have been hacking
around it by using ABS_MISC, which I know is wrong.

>> The thing is, if the choice is about a whole new subsystem just for some
>> silly light sensor logic, I'd _much_ rather see the much simpler - and
>> more useful - approach of just considering it an input event.
>>
>> It happens in the same kind of situations, it has the same kinds of timing
>> issues (ie we're not talking streaming megabytes of data), and it has the
>> same kind of users (ie a lightsensor really would be used along with
>> something that cares about input).
>>
>> I agree that that's not true in many other situations. A cable insertion
>> event is about the networking, not about some independent input. The kind
>> of application that cares about network cable presense is _not_ the kind
>> of app that would care about keyboard input. Same goes for voltage.
>
> What about magnetometers, accelerometers and so forth? I still do not
> think they are pure input layer devices although it is possible to build
> a bridge modules so they could plug into input framework if desired.

Actually, accelerometers fit into that model fine. They have some
variable number of absolute axes (3, 6, etc.).

--Dima

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-03 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-01 19:41 [GIT PULL] Ambient Light Sensors subsystem Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03  6:13 ` Dima Zavin
2010-03-03  9:34   ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-03 10:29     ` Dima Zavin
2010-03-03 11:02       ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-03 11:10       ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 13:07       ` Linus Walleij
2010-03-03 10:30   ` Linus Walleij
2010-03-03 11:19     ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 17:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-03 17:51     ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 18:41     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-03-03 18:52       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-03 19:07         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-03-03 19:33           ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 20:08             ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 22:02             ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-03 23:08               ` Dima Zavin
2010-03-04  9:22                 ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-07 20:49                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-03-08  6:29                   ` Dima Zavin
2010-03-05  7:38             ` Amit Kucheria
2010-03-05 10:58               ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 21:38           ` Dima Zavin [this message]
2010-03-03 21:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 11:19               ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-07 12:34                 ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-07 12:57                   ` J.I. Cameron
2010-03-08  9:58                 ` Dima Zavin
2010-03-08 10:24                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-07 20:42               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-03-08 10:00                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-18 14:34                 ` Jon Smirl
2010-03-03 21:56             ` Mike Chan
2010-03-03 22:05               ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-10 20:46           ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-22  0:13           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-03-22  4:27             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-03-03 19:20         ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 19:29           ` Manu Abraham
2010-03-03 19:45             ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-03 20:08               ` Manu Abraham
2010-03-03 20:37                 ` Jonathan Cameron

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