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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	jirislaby@gmail.com, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>
Subject: Re: what the patches do Re: [RFC 10/15] PM / Hibernate: user, implement user_ops reader
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:21:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201003252321.49135.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100325053003.GB12935@elf.ucw.cz>

On Thursday 25 March 2010, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > Switch /dev/snapshot reader to sws_module_ops approach so that we
> > can transparently rewrite the rest of the snapshot from pages pulling
> > to their pushing through layers.
> 
> >  struct sws_module_ops user_ops = {
> >  	.storage_available = user_storage_available,
> >  
> >  	.get_writer = get_user_writer,
> >  	.put_writer = put_user_writer,
> >  	.write_page = user_write_page,
> > +
> > +	.get_reader = get_user_reader,
> > +	.put_reader = put_user_reader,
> > +	.read_page = user_read_page,
> >  };
> 
> Ok, I guess that now I see what you are doing.... adding interface
> layer between /dev/snapshot and core hibernation code.
> 
> To recap, 2.6.33 hibernation looks like:
> 
> 			core hibernation
> 				/\
> 			       /  \
> 			swsusp	  /dev/snapshot
> 			swap            \
> 			writing      -------- read/write/ioctl interface
>                                           \
> 					 s2disk
> 
> and after your patches, we'd get
> 
> 			core hibernation
> 				/\
>                             ---------- sws_module_ops interface
> 			       /  \
> 			swsusp	  /dev/snapshot
> 			swap            \
> 			writing      -------- read/write/ioctl interface
>                                           \
> 					 s2disk
> 
> (Right? Did I understand the patches correctly?)
> 
> I have some problems with sws_module_ops interface (handcoded locking
> is too ugly to live), but it is better than I expected. But there may
> be better solution available, one that does not need two interfaces to
> maintain (we can't really get rid of userland interface). What about
> this?
> 
> 
> 
> 			core hibernation
> 				 \
> 			          \
> 			      	  /dev/snapshot
> 		                      / \
> 			           ---------- read/write/ioctl interface
>                                     /     \
> 				swsusp	 s2disk
> 				swap
> 				writing
> 
> ? That way, we have just one interface, and still keep the advantages
> of modularity / defined interfaces.
> 
> (You could literary call sys_read() from inside the kernel -- after
> set_fs() -- but going to that extreme is probably not neccessary. But
> having interface very similar to what /dev/snapshot provides -- with
> the same locking rules -- should result in better code.)

The user space interface does things that the in-kernel one doesn't really care
for, so I don't think that would be a good thing to do.  I admit it's a bit
like this right now (snapshot_[read|write]_next() do some things to satisfy
the user space interface's needs), but I don't really think it should go any
further than that.

Moreover, the Jiri's approach allows us to handle other types of storage as
well as swap using uniform interface.

Rafael

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-25 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-23 16:17 [RFC 01/15] FS: libfs, implement simple_write_to_buffer Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 02/15] PM / Hibernate: snapshot cleanup Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:29   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 20:29   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 22:35   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-24 22:35   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25  5:29   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25  5:29   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 03/15] PM / Hibernate: separate block_io Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:30   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 20:30   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 21:22     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 22:58       ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25  2:35         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25  2:35         ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:12           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:12           ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:13             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:13             ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:33               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:33               ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:36                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:36                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-29 13:30             ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-29 13:30             ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 14:29         ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 14:29         ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 22:58       ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-24 21:22     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 04/15] PM / Hibernate: move the first_sector out of swsusp_write Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:31   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 20:31   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 21:26     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 21:26     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 05/15] PM / Hibernate: group swap ops Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 21:28   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 21:28   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 06/15] PM / Hibernate: swap, remove swap_map_handle usages Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:33   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 21:29     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 21:29     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 21:35       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 21:35       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-24 20:33   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 07/15] PM / Hibernate: add sws_modules_ops Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:36   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 21:31     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 21:31     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:36   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 22:02   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:02   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 08/15] PM / Hibernate: add user module_ops Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17   ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-26  9:43     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-26  9:43     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 09/15] PM / Hibernate: user, implement user_ops writer Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:42   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 21:40     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 21:40     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 21:36       ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 21:36       ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 22:14       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:14       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-26  9:34         ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-26 22:04           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-29 15:33             ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-29 15:33             ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-29 22:09               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-30  1:14                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-30 21:03                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-31  2:31                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-31 14:47                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-31 21:01                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-31 20:25                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-31 21:06                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-31 21:36                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-04-04 23:08                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-04-04 23:13                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-31 21:54                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-30  8:59                 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-30 20:50                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-31 14:41                     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-31 20:29                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-04-21 21:22                         ` Jiri Slaby
2010-04-22  3:43                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-26 22:04           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-27  7:02           ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-27  7:02           ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-26  9:34         ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:42   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 10/15] PM / Hibernate: user, implement user_ops reader Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25  5:30   ` what the patches do " Pavel Machek
2010-03-25  5:42     ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25  6:12       ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25  6:12       ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:14       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:14       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:21         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:21         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:29           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:29           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:35             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 21:13               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 21:13               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:35             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 21:26             ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 21:26             ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 21:49               ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-04-02  6:36                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-04-02  6:36                 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2010-04-02 17:03                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-04-02 17:03                   ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 21:49               ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25  5:42     ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 22:21     ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-03-25 22:21     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25  5:30   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 11/15] PM / Hibernate: add chunk i/o support Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:38   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:38   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-26  9:09     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-26  9:09     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-26 10:02       ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-26 10:02       ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 12/15] PM / Hibernate: split snapshot_read_next Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:44   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:44   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 13/15] PM / Hibernate: split snapshot_write_next Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:46   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:46   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 14/15] PM / Hibernate: dealign swsusp_info Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:46   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:46   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 15/15] PM / Hibernate: move non-swap code to snapshot.c Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:50   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:50   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 21:51 ` [RFC 01/15] FS: libfs, implement simple_write_to_buffer Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 22:09 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-23 22:09 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-24 22:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-24 22:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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