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From: Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>
Subject: Re: [RFC 09/15] PM / Hibernate: user, implement user_ops writer
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:59:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BB1BD70.90105@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201003300009.18315.rjw@sisk.pl>

On 03/30/2010 12:09 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Monday 29 March 2010, Jiri Slaby wrote:
>> Probably the easiest solution is to revert it as noted above: a page is
>> taken from snapshot (with patches I have here the snapshot layer is only
>> told to "store next page" without returning a page to the caller), fed
>> through crypto layers as needed and finally given to chunk writer which
>> assembles PAGE_SIZE blocks from the chunks. Then whole pages of
>> compressed/encrypted data are given to user or in-kernel block io by
>> hibernate_io_ops->write_page. In-kernel .write_page simply calls
>> swap_write_page (which in turn hib_bio_write_page while storing swap
>> sector entries).
> 
> That's fine if I understand correctly.

(It is in fact the same what s2disk does, except it works on a single
page and the block io chaining is up to the block layer.)

>> The very similar happens for fops->write, ergo hibernate_io_ops->read_page.
> 
> You can't open /dev/snapshot for reading and writing at the same time, because
> that wouldn't make any sense.

Err, I didn't mean to write that. fops->read and
hibernate_io_ops->write_page are both involved solely in image writing
and are consumer and producer respectively. Vice versa for image reading.

> Now, during resume the image is not present in memory at all.  In fact, we

<snipped> -- we both understand the code the same.

> Now, compression can happen in two places: while the image is created
> or after it has been created (current behavior).  In the latter case, the image
> pages need not be compressed in place, they may be compressed after being
> returned by snapshot_read_next(), in a temporary buffer (that's now s2disk
> does that).  So you can arrange things like this:
> 
> create image
> repeat:
> - snapshot_read_next() -> buffer
> - if buffer is full, compress it (possibly encrypt it) and write the result to
>   the storage
> 
> This way you'd just avoid all of the complications and I fail to see any
> drawbacks.

Yes, this was the intention. Except I wanted snapshot_read_next to be
something like snapshot_write_next_page which would call
hibernate_io_ops->write_page(buf, len) somewhere in the deep.
hibernate_io_ops is an alias for the first module which accepts the page
and feeds it further. E.g. for hibernate_io_ops being compress_ops it
may be a chain like compress_ops->write_page => encrypt_ops->write_page
=> swap_ops->write_page.

But if you want to preserve snapshot_read_next, then it would look like
repeat:
  snapshot_read_next() -> buffer, len = PAGE_SIZE
  compress_ops->write_page(buffer, len) =>
    encrypt_ops->write_page(buffer, len) =>
    swap_ops->write_page(buffer, len)

instead of
repeat:
  snapshot_write_next_page()
In this case its work is to fetch a next page and call appropriate
.write_page.

> Now, an attractive thing would be to compress data while creating the image
> and that may be done in the following way:

I wouldn't go for this. We should balance I/O and CPU and this can be
done only when writing the image, if I can say. OTOH I must admit I have
no numbers.

thanks,
-- 
js

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-30  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-23 16:17 [RFC 01/15] FS: libfs, implement simple_write_to_buffer Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 02/15] PM / Hibernate: snapshot cleanup Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:29   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 20:29   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 22:35   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-24 22:35   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25  5:29   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25  5:29   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 03/15] PM / Hibernate: separate block_io Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:30   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 20:30   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 21:22     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 22:58       ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25  2:35         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25  2:35         ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:12           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:12           ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:13             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:13             ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:33               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:33               ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:36                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:36                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-29 13:30             ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-29 13:30             ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 14:29         ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 14:29         ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 22:58       ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-24 21:22     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 04/15] PM / Hibernate: move the first_sector out of swsusp_write Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:31   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 20:31   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 21:26     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 21:26     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 05/15] PM / Hibernate: group swap ops Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 21:28   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 21:28   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 06/15] PM / Hibernate: swap, remove swap_map_handle usages Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:33   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 21:29     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 21:29     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 21:35       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 21:35       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-24 20:33   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 07/15] PM / Hibernate: add sws_modules_ops Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:36   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 21:31     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 21:31     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:36   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 22:02   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:02   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 08/15] PM / Hibernate: add user module_ops Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17   ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-26  9:43     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-26  9:43     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 09/15] PM / Hibernate: user, implement user_ops writer Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:42   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 21:40     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 21:40     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 21:36       ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 21:36       ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 22:14       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:14       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-26  9:34         ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-26 22:04           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-29 15:33             ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-29 15:33             ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-29 22:09               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-30  1:14                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-30 21:03                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-31  2:31                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-31 14:47                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-31 21:01                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-31 20:25                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-31 21:06                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-31 21:36                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-04-04 23:08                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-04-04 23:13                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-31 21:54                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-30  8:59                 ` Jiri Slaby [this message]
2010-03-30 20:50                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-31 14:41                     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-31 20:29                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-04-21 21:22                         ` Jiri Slaby
2010-04-22  3:43                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-26 22:04           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-27  7:02           ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-27  7:02           ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-26  9:34         ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-24 20:42   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 10/15] PM / Hibernate: user, implement user_ops reader Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25  5:30   ` what the patches do " Pavel Machek
2010-03-25  5:42     ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25  6:12       ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25  6:12       ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:14       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:14       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:21         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:21         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:29           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:29           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:35             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 21:13               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 21:13               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 20:35             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 21:26             ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 21:26             ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 21:49               ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-04-02  6:36                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-04-02  6:36                 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2010-04-02 17:03                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-04-02 17:03                   ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 21:49               ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25  5:42     ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 22:21     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:21     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25  5:30   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 11/15] PM / Hibernate: add chunk i/o support Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:38   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:38   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-26  9:09     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-26  9:09     ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-26 10:02       ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-26 10:02       ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 12/15] PM / Hibernate: split snapshot_read_next Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:44   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:44   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 13/15] PM / Hibernate: split snapshot_write_next Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:46   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:46   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 14/15] PM / Hibernate: dealign swsusp_info Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:46   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:46   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 15/15] PM / Hibernate: move non-swap code to snapshot.c Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:50   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:50   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 21:51 ` [RFC 01/15] FS: libfs, implement simple_write_to_buffer Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 22:09 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-23 22:09 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-24 22:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-24 22:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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