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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Louis Rilling <louis.rilling@kerlabs.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] pidns: Support unsharing the pid namespace.
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:42:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100620204257.GA9156@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100620201454.GA6902@redhat.com>

On 06/20, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> On 06/20, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >
> > Unsharing of the pid namespace unlike unsharing of other namespaces
> > does not take affect immediately.  Instead it affects the children
> > created with fork and clone.
>
> Cough. It is too late to me to even try to understand the changelog.
>
> Instead I tried to quickly read the patch. Most probably I missed
> somthing, but still I'd like to ask the quiestion.
>
> So. If I understand correctly, the patch is simple:
>
> 	- unshare(CLONE_NEWPID) changes current->proxy->pid_ns,
> 	  but do not change current->pids[] and thus it doesn't
> 	  change task_active_pid_ns().
>
> 	- since copy_process() uses ->proxy->pid_ns for alloc_pid()
> 	  the new children will fall into the new ns.
>
> IOW, the caller becomes the "swapper" for the new namespace.
>
> Correct?
>
> If yes, I'm afraid nobody except you will understand this magic ;)
>
> But what if the task T does unshare(CLONE_NEWPID) and then, say,
> pthread_create() ? Unless I missed something, the new thread won't
> be able to see T ?

and, in this case the exiting sub-namespace init also kills its
parent?

> OK, suppose it does fork() after unshare(), then another fork().
> In this case the second child lives in the same namespace with
> init created by the 1st fork, but it is not descendant ? This means
> in particular that if the new init exits, zap_pid_ns_processes()->
> do_wait() can't work.
>
> I hope I missed something, this all is too subtle for me. And I
> still do not understand 4/6 which adds ns->dead.

And, forgot to mention. With this change proc_flush_task()->mntput()
becomes even more wrong.

Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-20 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-16 16:34 [PATCH] procfs: Do not release pid_ns->proc_mnt too early Louis Rilling
     [not found] ` <1276706068-18567-1-git-send-email-louis.rilling-aw0BnHfMbSpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-17  9:53   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-06-17  9:53     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-06-17 13:41     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-17 14:20       ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-17 21:36       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18  8:27         ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-18 16:27           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-21 11:11             ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-21 12:58               ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-21 14:15                 ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-21 14:26                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]           ` <20100618082738.GE16877-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-18 16:27             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-17 21:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18  8:20   ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-18 11:15     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 16:08       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 16:08         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 17:33         ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-18 17:55           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 17:55             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 21:23             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 21:23               ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-19 19:08               ` [PATCH 0/4] pid_ns_prepare_proc/unshare cleanups Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-19 19:09                 ` [PATCH 1/4] procfs: proc_get_sb: consolidate/cleanup root_inode->pid logic Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-19 19:10                 ` [PATCH 2/4] procfs: kill the global proc_mnt variable Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-19 19:10                 ` [PATCH 3/4] procfs: move pid_ns_prepare_proc() from copy_process() to create_pid_namespace() Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-19 19:11                 ` [PATCH RESEND 4/4] sys_unshare: simplify the not-really-implemented CLONE_THREAD/SIGHAND/VM code Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20  8:42                 ` [PATCH 0/6] Unshare support for the pid namespace Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20  8:44                   ` [PATCH 1/6] pid: Remove the child_reaper special case in init/main.c Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <m1ljaaqejm.fsf_-_-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-20 18:29                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 18:29                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 20:27                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20  8:45                   ` [PATCH 2/6] pidns: Call pid_ns_prepare_proc from create_pid_namespace Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <m1hbkyqeib.fsf_-_-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-20 18:19                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 18:19                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20  8:45                   ` [PATCH 3/6] procfs: kill the global proc_mnt variable Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20  8:47                   ` [PATCH 4/6] pidns: Don't allow new pids after the namespace is dead Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20 18:44                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20  8:48                   ` [PATCH 5/6] pidns: Use task_active_pid_ns where appropriate Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20  8:49                   ` [PATCH 6/6] pidns: Support unsharing the pid namespace Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20 20:14                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 20:42                       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-06-21  1:53                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20 18:03                   ` [PATCH 0/6] Unshare support for " Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 18:05                     ` [PATCH 0/2] pid_ns_release_proc() fixes Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 18:06                       ` [PATCH 1/2] pid_ns: move destroy_pid_namespace() into workqueue context Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 18:06                       ` [PATCH 2/2] pid_ns: refactor the buggy pid_ns_release_proc() logic Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 21:00                     ` [PATCH 0/6] Unshare support for the pid namespace Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20 21:48                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                       ` <m14ogxctd6.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-20 21:56                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 21:56                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-26 15:57                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-06-23 20:36                 ` [PATCH 0/1] pid_ns: move pid_ns_release_proc() from proc_flush_task() to zap_pid_ns_processes() Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                   ` <20100623203652.GA25298-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:37                     ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-23 20:37                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-24  6:36                       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-06-24 12:59                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-24  7:06                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-24 13:01                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-24  8:37                   ` [PATCH] pid_ns: Fix proc_flush_task() accessing freed proc_mnt Louis Rilling
2010-06-24 17:08                   ` [RESEND PATCH] " Louis Rilling
2010-06-24 19:18                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25 10:23                       ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                         ` <20100625102303.GG3773-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-25 12:21                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25 12:21                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25 18:37                           ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-06-25 18:37                         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-06-25 19:29                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25 21:26                             ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-06-25 21:27                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25 22:07                                 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-09  4:36                                   ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] pidns: Add a flag to indicate a pid namespace is dead Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-09  4:39                                     ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] pidns: Remove proc flush races when a pid namespaces are exiting Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-09 12:14                                       ` Louis Rilling
2010-07-09 13:05                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-09 14:13                                           ` Louis Rilling
2010-07-09 15:58                                             ` [PATCH 01/24] pidns: Remove races by stopping the caching of proc_mnt Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-09 22:13                                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-07-11 14:14                                               ` Louis Rilling
2010-07-11 14:25                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-12 18:09                                                 ` [PATCH] pidns: Fix wait for zombies to be reaped in zap_pid_ns_processes Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-13 21:42                                                   ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                                                     ` <20100713214234.GA21042-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-13 22:34                                                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-07-13 22:34                                                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-07-14  1:47                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                       ` <m1oceakf5x.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-30  7:07                                                         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-10-30  7:07                                                           ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-14 20:53                                                   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-14 21:35                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-21 11:09             ` [PATCH] procfs: Do not release pid_ns->proc_mnt too early Louis Rilling
2010-06-21 11:15             ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-21 14:38               ` Oleg Nesterov

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