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From: Louis Rilling <Louis.Rilling@kerlabs.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] procfs: Do not release pid_ns->proc_mnt too early
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:11:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100621111127.GI16877@hawkmoon.kerlabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100618162734.GB7404@redhat.com>

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On 18/06/10 18:27 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 06/18, Louis Rilling wrote:
> >
> > On 17/06/10 23:36 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > On 06/17, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The task->children isn't changed until __unhash_process() which runs
> > > > after flush_proc_task().
> > >
> > > Yes. But this is only the current implementation detail.
> > > It would be nice to cleanup the code so that EXIT_DEAD tasks are
> > > never sit in ->children list.
> > >
> > > > So we should be able to come up with
> > > > a variant of do_wait() that zap_pid_ns_processes can use that does
> > > > what we need.
> > >
> > > See above...
> > >
> > > Even if we modify do_wait() or add the new variant, how the caller
> > > can wait for EXIT_DEAD tasks? I don't think we want to modify
> > > release_task() to do __wake_up_parent() or something similar.
> >
> > Indeed, I was thinking about calling __wake_up_parent() from release_task()
> > once parent->children becomes empty.
> >
> > Not sure about the performance impact though. Maybe some WAIT_NO_CHILDREN flag
> > in parent->signal could limit it. But if EXIT_DEAD children are removed from
> > ->children before release_task(), I'm afraid that this becomes impossible.
> 
> Thinking more, even the current do_wait() from zap_pid_ns_processes()
> is not really good. Suppose that some none-init thread is ptraced, then
> zap_pid_ns_processes() will hange until the tracer does do_wait() or
> exits.

Is this really a bad thing? If somebody ptraces a task in a pid namespace, that
sounds reasonable to have this namespace (and it's init task) pinned.

Louis

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-21 11:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-16 16:34 [PATCH] procfs: Do not release pid_ns->proc_mnt too early Louis Rilling
     [not found] ` <1276706068-18567-1-git-send-email-louis.rilling-aw0BnHfMbSpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-17  9:53   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-06-17  9:53     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-06-17 13:41     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-17 14:20       ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-17 21:36       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18  8:27         ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-18 16:27           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-21 11:11             ` Louis Rilling [this message]
2010-06-21 12:58               ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-21 14:15                 ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-21 14:26                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]           ` <20100618082738.GE16877-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-18 16:27             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-17 21:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18  8:20   ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-18 11:15     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 16:08       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 16:08         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 17:33         ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-18 17:55           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 17:55             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 21:23             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 21:23               ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-19 19:08               ` [PATCH 0/4] pid_ns_prepare_proc/unshare cleanups Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-19 19:09                 ` [PATCH 1/4] procfs: proc_get_sb: consolidate/cleanup root_inode->pid logic Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-19 19:10                 ` [PATCH 2/4] procfs: kill the global proc_mnt variable Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-19 19:10                 ` [PATCH 3/4] procfs: move pid_ns_prepare_proc() from copy_process() to create_pid_namespace() Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-19 19:11                 ` [PATCH RESEND 4/4] sys_unshare: simplify the not-really-implemented CLONE_THREAD/SIGHAND/VM code Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20  8:42                 ` [PATCH 0/6] Unshare support for the pid namespace Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20  8:44                   ` [PATCH 1/6] pid: Remove the child_reaper special case in init/main.c Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <m1ljaaqejm.fsf_-_-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-20 18:29                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 18:29                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 20:27                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20  8:45                   ` [PATCH 2/6] pidns: Call pid_ns_prepare_proc from create_pid_namespace Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <m1hbkyqeib.fsf_-_-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-20 18:19                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 18:19                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20  8:45                   ` [PATCH 3/6] procfs: kill the global proc_mnt variable Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20  8:47                   ` [PATCH 4/6] pidns: Don't allow new pids after the namespace is dead Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20 18:44                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20  8:48                   ` [PATCH 5/6] pidns: Use task_active_pid_ns where appropriate Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20  8:49                   ` [PATCH 6/6] pidns: Support unsharing the pid namespace Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20 20:14                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 20:42                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-21  1:53                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20 18:03                   ` [PATCH 0/6] Unshare support for " Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 18:05                     ` [PATCH 0/2] pid_ns_release_proc() fixes Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 18:06                       ` [PATCH 1/2] pid_ns: move destroy_pid_namespace() into workqueue context Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 18:06                       ` [PATCH 2/2] pid_ns: refactor the buggy pid_ns_release_proc() logic Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 21:00                     ` [PATCH 0/6] Unshare support for the pid namespace Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-20 21:48                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                       ` <m14ogxctd6.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-20 21:56                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-20 21:56                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-26 15:57                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-06-23 20:36                 ` [PATCH 0/1] pid_ns: move pid_ns_release_proc() from proc_flush_task() to zap_pid_ns_processes() Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                   ` <20100623203652.GA25298-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:37                     ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-23 20:37                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-24  6:36                       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-06-24 12:59                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-24  7:06                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-24 13:01                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-24  8:37                   ` [PATCH] pid_ns: Fix proc_flush_task() accessing freed proc_mnt Louis Rilling
2010-06-24 17:08                   ` [RESEND PATCH] " Louis Rilling
2010-06-24 19:18                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25 10:23                       ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                         ` <20100625102303.GG3773-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-25 12:21                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25 12:21                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25 18:37                           ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-06-25 18:37                         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-06-25 19:29                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25 21:26                             ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-06-25 21:27                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25 22:07                                 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-09  4:36                                   ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] pidns: Add a flag to indicate a pid namespace is dead Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-09  4:39                                     ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] pidns: Remove proc flush races when a pid namespaces are exiting Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-09 12:14                                       ` Louis Rilling
2010-07-09 13:05                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-09 14:13                                           ` Louis Rilling
2010-07-09 15:58                                             ` [PATCH 01/24] pidns: Remove races by stopping the caching of proc_mnt Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-09 22:13                                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-07-11 14:14                                               ` Louis Rilling
2010-07-11 14:25                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-12 18:09                                                 ` [PATCH] pidns: Fix wait for zombies to be reaped in zap_pid_ns_processes Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-13 21:42                                                   ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                                                     ` <20100713214234.GA21042-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-13 22:34                                                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-07-13 22:34                                                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-07-14  1:47                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                                       ` <m1oceakf5x.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-30  7:07                                                         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-10-30  7:07                                                           ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-14 20:53                                                   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-07-14 21:35                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-21 11:09             ` [PATCH] procfs: Do not release pid_ns->proc_mnt too early Louis Rilling
2010-06-21 11:15             ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-21 14:38               ` Oleg Nesterov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-06-16 15:58 Louis Rilling
2010-06-16 15:58 ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-16 16:04 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-06-16 16:15   ` Louis Rilling
2010-06-16 16:16   ` Louis Rilling

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