[Qemu-devel] [Bug 614958] [NEW] copy-paste between client and host

[Qemu-devel] [Bug 614958] [NEW] copy-paste between client and host

[Steve White]

Public bug reported:

Hi,

I propose that copy/paste between VMs be implemented somehow directly in QEMU.
This has been discussed repeatedly elsewhere; various solutions are proposed.  See below.

As it is, each user has to do their own research and testing if they are
to find a solution.   This makes the product frustratingly unattractive
for many.

Most solutions involve either running vnc and using a vnc client that
supports copy/paste (this can be tricky to find itself), or running some
other tcp-based copy-paste application.

For many users, the networking in a client VM is unimportant--they just
want to run some application there, and setting up netoworking in a VM
itself can be an issue.  Most of these solutions rely on un-maintained
software, and some require that other software be installed to make them
work (Basic interpreter, Java, etc).  Any of these solutions take some
work to set up.

I can tell you, the absence of a copy/paste mechanism makes the project
an immediate no-go for many users.  I work with a guy who spent a lot of
time trying, gave up, and switched to VirtualBox for this exact reason.

It would be much better if copy/paste worked out of the box.  Ideally,
it should work independently of networking.

Cheers!

Some discussions and proposed solutions:
-----------------------------------------------------
http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=161
    Somebody suggests VNC into the virtual host, and use vncviewer
    Somebody else suggests TCP/IP Clipboard (text editor with tcp/ip)

http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2626
    primitive app for sharing text across machines (in Basic)
    http://homepage.mac.com/bnej/shareclip/

http://borderworlds.dk/blog/20070217-00.html
    Says doesn't know a good solution but points to unmaintained package
    Qemu Guest Tools
    http://wolfpackally.wo.funpic.de/qemu/qgt/

http://bonzoli.com/docs/How_to_setup_Qemu_on_Fedora_8.html
    proposes Java remoteclip running on client and server
    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/rcm/WWW/RemoteClip/

** Affects: qemu
     Importance: Undecided
         Status: New

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Bug description:
Hi,

I propose that copy/paste between VMs be implemented somehow directly in QEMU.
This has been discussed repeatedly elsewhere; various solutions are proposed.  See below.

As it is, each user has to do their own research and testing if they are to find a solution.   This makes the product frustratingly unattractive for many.

Most solutions involve either running vnc and using a vnc client that supports copy/paste (this can be tricky to find itself), or running some other tcp-based copy-paste application. 

For many users, the networking in a client VM is unimportant--they just want to run some application there, and setting up netoworking in a VM itself can be an issue.  Most of these solutions rely on un-maintained software, and some require that other software be installed to make them work (Basic interpreter, Java, etc).  Any of these solutions take some work to set up.

I can tell you, the absence of a copy/paste mechanism makes the project an immediate no-go for many users.  I work with a guy who spent a lot of time trying, gave up, and switched to VirtualBox for this exact reason.

It would be much better if copy/paste worked out of the box.  Ideally, it should work independently of networking.

Cheers!

Some discussions and proposed solutions:
-----------------------------------------------------
http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=161
    Somebody suggests VNC into the virtual host, and use vncviewer
    Somebody else suggests TCP/IP Clipboard (text editor with tcp/ip)

http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2626
    primitive app for sharing text across machines (in Basic)
    http://homepage.mac.com/bnej/shareclip/

http://borderworlds.dk/blog/20070217-00.html
    Says doesn't know a good solution but points to unmaintained package
    Qemu Guest Tools
    http://wolfpackally.wo.funpic.de/qemu/qgt/

http://bonzoli.com/docs/How_to_setup_Qemu_on_Fedora_8.html
    proposes Java remoteclip running on client and server
    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/rcm/WWW/RemoteClip/

Re: [Qemu-devel] [Bug 614958] [NEW] copy-paste between client and host

[Sergei Steshenko]

--- On Sun, 8/8/10, Steve White <Stevan_White@hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Steve White <Stevan_White@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Qemu-devel] [Bug 614958] [NEW] copy-paste between client and host
> To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 3:19 AM


> I can tell you, the absence of a copy/paste mechanism makes
> the project
> an immediate no-go for many users.  I work with a guy
> who spent a lot of
> time trying, gave up, and switched to VirtualBox for this
> exact reason.

+1e9.

_Exactly_, _absolutely_.

Been there, done that, and even though I write code professionally, I
prefer VirtualBox just because many things in it simply work.


Regards,
  Sergei.



    

[Qemu-devel] [Bug 614958] Re: copy-paste between client and host

[Paolo Bonzini]

SPICE is supposed to address this kind of issue. Hopefully it will  be
merged in 0.14.

Anyway, after SPICE support is merged this feature would belong in
SPICE, not in QEMU. See http://spice-
space.org/page/Features/SharedClipboard for more information.

We might keep this open until SPICE is merged, but I'm not sure this bug
really belongs in QEMU's bug tracker.

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Bug description:
Hi,

I propose that copy/paste between VMs be implemented somehow directly in QEMU.
This has been discussed repeatedly elsewhere; various solutions are proposed.  See below.

As it is, each user has to do their own research and testing if they are to find a solution.   This makes the product frustratingly unattractive for many.

Most solutions involve either running vnc and using a vnc client that supports copy/paste (this can be tricky to find itself), or running some other tcp-based copy-paste application. 

For many users, the networking in a client VM is unimportant--they just want to run some application there, and setting up netoworking in a VM itself can be an issue.  Most of these solutions rely on un-maintained software, and some require that other software be installed to make them work (Basic interpreter, Java, etc).  Any of these solutions take some work to set up.

I can tell you, the absence of a copy/paste mechanism makes the project an immediate no-go for many users.  I work with a guy who spent a lot of time trying, gave up, and switched to VirtualBox for this exact reason.

It would be much better if copy/paste worked out of the box.  Ideally, it should work independently of networking.

Cheers!

Some discussions and proposed solutions:
-----------------------------------------------------
http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=161
    Somebody suggests VNC into the virtual host, and use vncviewer
    Somebody else suggests TCP/IP Clipboard (text editor with tcp/ip)

http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2626
    primitive app for sharing text across machines (in Basic)
    http://homepage.mac.com/bnej/shareclip/

http://borderworlds.dk/blog/20070217-00.html
    Says doesn't know a good solution but points to unmaintained package
    Qemu Guest Tools
    http://wolfpackally.wo.funpic.de/qemu/qgt/

http://bonzoli.com/docs/How_to_setup_Qemu_on_Fedora_8.html
    proposes Java remoteclip running on client and server
    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/rcm/WWW/RemoteClip/

[Qemu-devel] [Bug 614958] Re: copy-paste between client and host

[Steve White]

Hi Paolo,

Thanks for your acknowledgement!  if a solution is on the way, I'm glad
to hear it!

I agree that it would be best to keep this report open until *after* the
solution arrives and this particular feature has been tested and it has
been released to the public.  If this SPICE doesn't completely satisfy
the cut and paste requirement, then the bug report should be moved to
the SPICE bug report system.

We are eagerly awaiting the new features!

Cheers!

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Bug description:
Hi,

I propose that copy/paste between VMs be implemented somehow directly in QEMU.
This has been discussed repeatedly elsewhere; various solutions are proposed.  See below.

As it is, each user has to do their own research and testing if they are to find a solution.   This makes the product frustratingly unattractive for many.

Most solutions involve either running vnc and using a vnc client that supports copy/paste (this can be tricky to find itself), or running some other tcp-based copy-paste application. 

For many users, the networking in a client VM is unimportant--they just want to run some application there, and setting up netoworking in a VM itself can be an issue.  Most of these solutions rely on un-maintained software, and some require that other software be installed to make them work (Basic interpreter, Java, etc).  Any of these solutions take some work to set up.

I can tell you, the absence of a copy/paste mechanism makes the project an immediate no-go for many users.  I work with a guy who spent a lot of time trying, gave up, and switched to VirtualBox for this exact reason.

It would be much better if copy/paste worked out of the box.  Ideally, it should work independently of networking.

Cheers!

Some discussions and proposed solutions:
-----------------------------------------------------
http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=161
    Somebody suggests VNC into the virtual host, and use vncviewer
    Somebody else suggests TCP/IP Clipboard (text editor with tcp/ip)

http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2626
    primitive app for sharing text across machines (in Basic)
    http://homepage.mac.com/bnej/shareclip/

http://borderworlds.dk/blog/20070217-00.html
    Says doesn't know a good solution but points to unmaintained package
    Qemu Guest Tools
    http://wolfpackally.wo.funpic.de/qemu/qgt/

http://bonzoli.com/docs/How_to_setup_Qemu_on_Fedora_8.html
    proposes Java remoteclip running on client and server
    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/rcm/WWW/RemoteClip/

[Qemu-devel] [Bug 614958] Re: copy-paste between client and host

[Michal Suchanek]

I use serial console to cut&paste between host and guest without
networking.

It's nice SPICE is addressing this but I agree this is not really
something qemu itself should do. There is no  hardware cut&paste device
qemu can emulate, the video hardware has not notion of cut&paste.

At the very least qemu could support paste but since the SDL interface
has no controls and is direct input to the virtual machine there would
be need for different interface with more features.

You can copy screenshots. To support true clipboard copy you need in-
client software for every OS you run. While a nice project, and nice
thing to point people to in qemu docs (if it exists) it is definitely
out of the scope of qemu - a hardware emulator. Note that for SPICE
cut&paste to work you will surely need some SPICE driver installed in
the guest, and few platforms are supported.

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Title:
  copy-paste between client and host

Status in QEMU:
  New

Bug description:
  Hi,

  I propose that copy/paste between VMs be implemented somehow directly in QEMU.
  This has been discussed repeatedly elsewhere; various solutions are proposed.  See below.

  As it is, each user has to do their own research and testing if they
  are to find a solution.   This makes the product frustratingly
  unattractive for many.

  Most solutions involve either running vnc and using a vnc client that
  supports copy/paste (this can be tricky to find itself), or running
  some other tcp-based copy-paste application.

  For many users, the networking in a client VM is unimportant--they
  just want to run some application there, and setting up netoworking in
  a VM itself can be an issue.  Most of these solutions rely on un-
  maintained software, and some require that other software be installed
  to make them work (Basic interpreter, Java, etc).  Any of these
  solutions take some work to set up.

  I can tell you, the absence of a copy/paste mechanism makes the
  project an immediate no-go for many users.  I work with a guy who
  spent a lot of time trying, gave up, and switched to VirtualBox for
  this exact reason.

  It would be much better if copy/paste worked out of the box.  Ideally,
  it should work independently of networking.

  Cheers!

  Some discussions and proposed solutions:
  -----------------------------------------------------
  http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=161
      Somebody suggests VNC into the virtual host, and use vncviewer
      Somebody else suggests TCP/IP Clipboard (text editor with tcp/ip)

  http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2626
      primitive app for sharing text across machines (in Basic)
      http://homepage.mac.com/bnej/shareclip/

  http://borderworlds.dk/blog/20070217-00.html
      Says doesn't know a good solution but points to unmaintained package
      Qemu Guest Tools
      http://wolfpackally.wo.funpic.de/qemu/qgt/

  http://bonzoli.com/docs/How_to_setup_Qemu_on_Fedora_8.html
      proposes Java remoteclip running on client and server
      http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/rcm/WWW/RemoteClip/

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[Qemu-devel] [Bug 614958] Re: copy-paste between client and host

[Steve White]

Hi Michel,

It may be out of scope for qemu -- the scope is for the developers to
decide.

My point remains though:  If this functionality isn't there when the
user installs qemu, they will find another solution.  It won't be hard
to find. I have watched this happen.

Perhaps there's some synthesis, for example, a preferred packaging of
qemu with software that provides this functionality.

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Title:
  copy-paste between client and host

Status in QEMU:
  New

Bug description:
  Hi,

  I propose that copy/paste between VMs be implemented somehow directly in QEMU.
  This has been discussed repeatedly elsewhere; various solutions are proposed.  See below.

  As it is, each user has to do their own research and testing if they
  are to find a solution.   This makes the product frustratingly
  unattractive for many.

  Most solutions involve either running vnc and using a vnc client that
  supports copy/paste (this can be tricky to find itself), or running
  some other tcp-based copy-paste application.

  For many users, the networking in a client VM is unimportant--they
  just want to run some application there, and setting up netoworking in
  a VM itself can be an issue.  Most of these solutions rely on un-
  maintained software, and some require that other software be installed
  to make them work (Basic interpreter, Java, etc).  Any of these
  solutions take some work to set up.

  I can tell you, the absence of a copy/paste mechanism makes the
  project an immediate no-go for many users.  I work with a guy who
  spent a lot of time trying, gave up, and switched to VirtualBox for
  this exact reason.

  It would be much better if copy/paste worked out of the box.  Ideally,
  it should work independently of networking.

  Cheers!

  Some discussions and proposed solutions:
  -----------------------------------------------------
  http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=161
      Somebody suggests VNC into the virtual host, and use vncviewer
      Somebody else suggests TCP/IP Clipboard (text editor with tcp/ip)

  http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2626
      primitive app for sharing text across machines (in Basic)
      http://homepage.mac.com/bnej/shareclip/

  http://borderworlds.dk/blog/20070217-00.html
      Says doesn't know a good solution but points to unmaintained package
      Qemu Guest Tools
      http://wolfpackally.wo.funpic.de/qemu/qgt/

  http://bonzoli.com/docs/How_to_setup_Qemu_on_Fedora_8.html
      proposes Java remoteclip running on client and server
      http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/rcm/WWW/RemoteClip/

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[Qemu-devel] [Bug 614958] Re: copy-paste between client and host

[T. Huth]

I think we can close this nowadays, according to comment #2.

** Changed in: qemu
       Status: New => Fix Released

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Title:
  copy-paste between client and host

Status in QEMU:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  Hi,

  I propose that copy/paste between VMs be implemented somehow directly in QEMU.
  This has been discussed repeatedly elsewhere; various solutions are proposed.  See below.

  As it is, each user has to do their own research and testing if they
  are to find a solution.   This makes the product frustratingly
  unattractive for many.

  Most solutions involve either running vnc and using a vnc client that
  supports copy/paste (this can be tricky to find itself), or running
  some other tcp-based copy-paste application.

  For many users, the networking in a client VM is unimportant--they
  just want to run some application there, and setting up netoworking in
  a VM itself can be an issue.  Most of these solutions rely on un-
  maintained software, and some require that other software be installed
  to make them work (Basic interpreter, Java, etc).  Any of these
  solutions take some work to set up.

  I can tell you, the absence of a copy/paste mechanism makes the
  project an immediate no-go for many users.  I work with a guy who
  spent a lot of time trying, gave up, and switched to VirtualBox for
  this exact reason.

  It would be much better if copy/paste worked out of the box.  Ideally,
  it should work independently of networking.

  Cheers!

  Some discussions and proposed solutions:
  -----------------------------------------------------
  http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=161
      Somebody suggests VNC into the virtual host, and use vncviewer
      Somebody else suggests TCP/IP Clipboard (text editor with tcp/ip)

  http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2626
      primitive app for sharing text across machines (in Basic)
      http://homepage.mac.com/bnej/shareclip/

  http://borderworlds.dk/blog/20070217-00.html
      Says doesn't know a good solution but points to unmaintained package
      Qemu Guest Tools
      http://wolfpackally.wo.funpic.de/qemu/qgt/

  http://bonzoli.com/docs/How_to_setup_Qemu_on_Fedora_8.html
      proposes Java remoteclip running on client and server
      http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/rcm/WWW/RemoteClip/

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[Qemu-devel] [Bug 614958] Re: copy-paste between client and host

[Ciro Santilli 六四事件 法轮功]

Having to launch a separate `remote-viewer` command to view the desktop
is not very satisfactory for me, as you then have to think about two
processes instead of one.

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Title:
  copy-paste between client and host

Status in QEMU:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  Hi,

  I propose that copy/paste between VMs be implemented somehow directly in QEMU.
  This has been discussed repeatedly elsewhere; various solutions are proposed.  See below.

  As it is, each user has to do their own research and testing if they
  are to find a solution.   This makes the product frustratingly
  unattractive for many.

  Most solutions involve either running vnc and using a vnc client that
  supports copy/paste (this can be tricky to find itself), or running
  some other tcp-based copy-paste application.

  For many users, the networking in a client VM is unimportant--they
  just want to run some application there, and setting up netoworking in
  a VM itself can be an issue.  Most of these solutions rely on un-
  maintained software, and some require that other software be installed
  to make them work (Basic interpreter, Java, etc).  Any of these
  solutions take some work to set up.

  I can tell you, the absence of a copy/paste mechanism makes the
  project an immediate no-go for many users.  I work with a guy who
  spent a lot of time trying, gave up, and switched to VirtualBox for
  this exact reason.

  It would be much better if copy/paste worked out of the box.  Ideally,
  it should work independently of networking.

  Cheers!

  Some discussions and proposed solutions:
  -----------------------------------------------------
  http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=161
      Somebody suggests VNC into the virtual host, and use vncviewer
      Somebody else suggests TCP/IP Clipboard (text editor with tcp/ip)

  http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2626
      primitive app for sharing text across machines (in Basic)
      http://homepage.mac.com/bnej/shareclip/

  http://borderworlds.dk/blog/20070217-00.html
      Says doesn't know a good solution but points to unmaintained package
      Qemu Guest Tools
      http://wolfpackally.wo.funpic.de/qemu/qgt/

  http://bonzoli.com/docs/How_to_setup_Qemu_on_Fedora_8.html
      proposes Java remoteclip running on client and server
      http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/rcm/WWW/RemoteClip/

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