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From: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
To: linux@arm.linux.org.uk
Cc: fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp, khc@pm.waw.pl,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ARM: 2.6.3[45] PCI regression (IXP4xx and PXA?)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 00:55:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100816005427V.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100815082328.GA12222@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:23:28 +0100
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 02:42:51PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:46:05 +0100
> > Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 06:30:37PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:54:13 +0100
> > > > Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > > > >  This means that when dmabounce comes to allocate the replacement
> > > > > buffer, it gets a buffer which won't be accessible to the DMA
> > > > > controller
> > > > 
> > > > Really? looks like dmabounce does nothing for coherent memory that
> > > > dma_alloc_coherent() allocates.
> > > > 
> > > > The following very hacky patch works?
> > > 
> > > So what happens if you use a driver which uses dma_alloc_coherent()
> > > directly?  Should the driver really be passed memory which is
> > > inaccessible to the device because its outside the host bridge PCI
> > > window?
> > 
> > I'm not sure what you mean.
> > 
> > A driver which uses dma_alloc_coherent() directly should
> > work. dma_alloc_coherent() allocates memory with GFP_DMA with that
> > patch for dmabounce devices. So the driver gets the access-able
> > memory.
> > 
> > The memory that dma_alloc_coherent() returns should be always
> > consistent. We can't bounce it. All we can do is returning a memory
> > that a device (and its bus) can access to.
> > 
> > Krzysztof, can you try the patch?
> 
> Why bother when we both agree that the patch is a dirty hack?
> 
> Come up with something cleaner first.

Because this fix needs to go to stable trees too. A simple patch is
better even if it's hacky.

For example, we can unify dma_needs_bounce functions in arm with a
clean solution, I think. But dma_needs_bounce() was changed after
2.6.35 so it would be difficult to backport a clean solution.

btw, will we have more like this case? If so, I think that it's worth
having a generic solution for this case instead of having the arch
(arm and powerpc) specific solution.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp (FUJITA Tomonori)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: ARM: 2.6.3[45] PCI regression (IXP4xx and PXA?)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 00:55:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100816005427V.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100815082328.GA12222@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:23:28 +0100
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 02:42:51PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:46:05 +0100
> > Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 06:30:37PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:54:13 +0100
> > > > Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > > > >  This means that when dmabounce comes to allocate the replacement
> > > > > buffer, it gets a buffer which won't be accessible to the DMA
> > > > > controller
> > > > 
> > > > Really? looks like dmabounce does nothing for coherent memory that
> > > > dma_alloc_coherent() allocates.
> > > > 
> > > > The following very hacky patch works?
> > > 
> > > So what happens if you use a driver which uses dma_alloc_coherent()
> > > directly?  Should the driver really be passed memory which is
> > > inaccessible to the device because its outside the host bridge PCI
> > > window?
> > 
> > I'm not sure what you mean.
> > 
> > A driver which uses dma_alloc_coherent() directly should
> > work. dma_alloc_coherent() allocates memory with GFP_DMA with that
> > patch for dmabounce devices. So the driver gets the access-able
> > memory.
> > 
> > The memory that dma_alloc_coherent() returns should be always
> > consistent. We can't bounce it. All we can do is returning a memory
> > that a device (and its bus) can access to.
> > 
> > Krzysztof, can you try the patch?
> 
> Why bother when we both agree that the patch is a dirty hack?
> 
> Come up with something cleaner first.

Because this fix needs to go to stable trees too. A simple patch is
better even if it's hacky.

For example, we can unify dma_needs_bounce functions in arm with a
clean solution, I think. But dma_needs_bounce() was changed after
2.6.35 so it would be difficult to backport a clean solution.

btw, will we have more like this case? If so, I think that it's worth
having a generic solution for this case instead of having the arch
(arm and powerpc) specific solution.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-15 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-10 20:36 ARM: 2.6.3[45] PCI regression (IXP4xx and PXA?) Krzysztof Halasa
2010-08-10 20:36 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2010-08-11  2:06 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-11  2:06   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-11  7:25   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-08-11  7:25     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-08-13  6:23     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-13  6:23       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-13 21:54       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-08-13 21:54         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-08-14  9:30         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-14  9:30           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-14 18:46           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-08-14 18:46             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-08-15  5:42             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-15  5:42               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-15  8:23               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-08-15  8:23                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-08-15  8:23                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-08-15 15:55                 ` FUJITA Tomonori [this message]
2010-08-15 15:55                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-16 23:29           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2010-08-16 23:29             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2010-08-19  8:51             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-19  8:51               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-19 16:56               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2010-08-19 16:56                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2010-08-19 10:31           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-19 10:31             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-19 14:50             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-19 14:50               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-19 16:53               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2010-08-19 16:53                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2010-08-19 17:20                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-19 17:20                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-19 21:54                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-19 21:54                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-19 21:51               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-19 21:51                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-26 11:55                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-26 11:55                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-26 13:54                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-26 13:54                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-26 17:57                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-08-26 17:57                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-08-27  6:54                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-27  6:54                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-26 16:02                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2010-08-26 16:02                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2010-08-27  0:26                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-08-27  0:26                       ` FUJITA Tomonori

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