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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/10] vmscan: Kick flusher threads to clean pages when reclaim is encountering dirty pages
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:32:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100909093211.GM29263@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100909122228.3db2b95c.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 12:22:28PM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Mon,  6 Sep 2010 11:47:33 +0100
> Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
> 
> > There are a number of cases where pages get cleaned but two of concern
> > to this patch are;
> >   o When dirtying pages, processes may be throttled to clean pages if
> >     dirty_ratio is not met.
> >   o Pages belonging to inodes dirtied longer than
> >     dirty_writeback_centisecs get cleaned.
> > 
> > The problem for reclaim is that dirty pages can reach the end of the LRU if
> > pages are being dirtied slowly so that neither the throttling or a flusher
> > thread waking periodically cleans them.
> > 
> > Background flush is already cleaning old or expired inodes first but the
> > expire time is too far in the future at the time of page reclaim. To mitigate
> > future problems, this patch wakes flusher threads to clean 4M of data -
> > an amount that should be manageable without causing congestion in many cases.
> > 
> > Ideally, the background flushers would only be cleaning pages belonging
> > to the zone being scanned but it's not clear if this would be of benefit
> > (less IO) or not (potentially less efficient IO if an inode is scattered
> > across multiple zones).
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
> > ---
> >  mm/vmscan.c |   32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> >  1 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > index 408c101..33d27a4 100644
> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > @@ -148,6 +148,18 @@ static DECLARE_RWSEM(shrinker_rwsem);
> >  /* Direct lumpy reclaim waits up to five seconds for background cleaning */
> >  #define MAX_SWAP_CLEAN_WAIT 50
> >  
> > +/*
> > + * When reclaim encounters dirty data, wakeup flusher threads to clean
> > + * a maximum of 4M of data.
> > + */
> > +#define MAX_WRITEBACK (4194304UL >> PAGE_SHIFT)
> > +#define WRITEBACK_FACTOR (MAX_WRITEBACK / SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX)
> > +static inline long nr_writeback_pages(unsigned long nr_dirty)
> > +{
> > +	return laptop_mode ? 0 :
> > +			min(MAX_WRITEBACK, (nr_dirty * WRITEBACK_FACTOR));
> > +}
> > +
> >  static struct zone_reclaim_stat *get_reclaim_stat(struct zone *zone,
> >  						  struct scan_control *sc)
> >  {
> > @@ -686,12 +698,14 @@ static noinline_for_stack void free_page_list(struct list_head *free_pages)
> >   */
> >  static unsigned long shrink_page_list(struct list_head *page_list,
> >  					struct scan_control *sc,
> > +					int file,
> >  					unsigned long *nr_still_dirty)
> >  {
> >  	LIST_HEAD(ret_pages);
> >  	LIST_HEAD(free_pages);
> >  	int pgactivate = 0;
> >  	unsigned long nr_dirty = 0;
> > +	unsigned long nr_dirty_seen = 0;
> >  	unsigned long nr_reclaimed = 0;
> >  
> >  	cond_resched();
> > @@ -790,6 +804,8 @@ static unsigned long shrink_page_list(struct list_head *page_list,
> >  		}
> >  
> >  		if (PageDirty(page)) {
> > +			nr_dirty_seen++;
> > +
> >  			/*
> >  			 * Only kswapd can writeback filesystem pages to
> >  			 * avoid risk of stack overflow
> > @@ -923,6 +939,18 @@ keep_lumpy:
> >  
> >  	list_splice(&ret_pages, page_list);
> >  
> > +	/*
> > +	 * If reclaim is encountering dirty pages, it may be because
> > +	 * dirty pages are reaching the end of the LRU even though the
> > +	 * dirty_ratio may be satisified. In this case, wake flusher
> > +	 * threads to pro-actively clean up to a maximum of
> > +	 * 4 * SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX amount of data (usually 1/2MB) unless
> > +	 * !may_writepage indicates that this is a direct reclaimer in
> > +	 * laptop mode avoiding disk spin-ups
> > +	 */
> > +	if (file && nr_dirty_seen && sc->may_writepage)
> > +		wakeup_flusher_threads(nr_writeback_pages(nr_dirty));
> > +
> 
> Thank you. Ok, I'll check what happens in memcg.
> 

Thanks

> Can I add
> 	if (sc->memcg) {
> 		memcg_check_flusher_wakeup()
> 	}
> or some here ?
> 

It seems reasonable.

> Hm, maybe memcg should wake up flusher at starting try_to_free_memory_cgroup_pages().
> 

I'm afraid I cannot make a judgement call on which is the best as I am
not very familiar with how cgroups behave in comparison to normal
reclaim. There could easily be a follow-on patch though that was cgroup
specific?

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/10] vmscan: Kick flusher threads to clean pages when reclaim is encountering dirty pages
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:32:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100909093211.GM29263@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100909122228.3db2b95c.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 12:22:28PM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Mon,  6 Sep 2010 11:47:33 +0100
> Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
> 
> > There are a number of cases where pages get cleaned but two of concern
> > to this patch are;
> >   o When dirtying pages, processes may be throttled to clean pages if
> >     dirty_ratio is not met.
> >   o Pages belonging to inodes dirtied longer than
> >     dirty_writeback_centisecs get cleaned.
> > 
> > The problem for reclaim is that dirty pages can reach the end of the LRU if
> > pages are being dirtied slowly so that neither the throttling or a flusher
> > thread waking periodically cleans them.
> > 
> > Background flush is already cleaning old or expired inodes first but the
> > expire time is too far in the future at the time of page reclaim. To mitigate
> > future problems, this patch wakes flusher threads to clean 4M of data -
> > an amount that should be manageable without causing congestion in many cases.
> > 
> > Ideally, the background flushers would only be cleaning pages belonging
> > to the zone being scanned but it's not clear if this would be of benefit
> > (less IO) or not (potentially less efficient IO if an inode is scattered
> > across multiple zones).
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
> > ---
> >  mm/vmscan.c |   32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> >  1 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > index 408c101..33d27a4 100644
> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > @@ -148,6 +148,18 @@ static DECLARE_RWSEM(shrinker_rwsem);
> >  /* Direct lumpy reclaim waits up to five seconds for background cleaning */
> >  #define MAX_SWAP_CLEAN_WAIT 50
> >  
> > +/*
> > + * When reclaim encounters dirty data, wakeup flusher threads to clean
> > + * a maximum of 4M of data.
> > + */
> > +#define MAX_WRITEBACK (4194304UL >> PAGE_SHIFT)
> > +#define WRITEBACK_FACTOR (MAX_WRITEBACK / SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX)
> > +static inline long nr_writeback_pages(unsigned long nr_dirty)
> > +{
> > +	return laptop_mode ? 0 :
> > +			min(MAX_WRITEBACK, (nr_dirty * WRITEBACK_FACTOR));
> > +}
> > +
> >  static struct zone_reclaim_stat *get_reclaim_stat(struct zone *zone,
> >  						  struct scan_control *sc)
> >  {
> > @@ -686,12 +698,14 @@ static noinline_for_stack void free_page_list(struct list_head *free_pages)
> >   */
> >  static unsigned long shrink_page_list(struct list_head *page_list,
> >  					struct scan_control *sc,
> > +					int file,
> >  					unsigned long *nr_still_dirty)
> >  {
> >  	LIST_HEAD(ret_pages);
> >  	LIST_HEAD(free_pages);
> >  	int pgactivate = 0;
> >  	unsigned long nr_dirty = 0;
> > +	unsigned long nr_dirty_seen = 0;
> >  	unsigned long nr_reclaimed = 0;
> >  
> >  	cond_resched();
> > @@ -790,6 +804,8 @@ static unsigned long shrink_page_list(struct list_head *page_list,
> >  		}
> >  
> >  		if (PageDirty(page)) {
> > +			nr_dirty_seen++;
> > +
> >  			/*
> >  			 * Only kswapd can writeback filesystem pages to
> >  			 * avoid risk of stack overflow
> > @@ -923,6 +939,18 @@ keep_lumpy:
> >  
> >  	list_splice(&ret_pages, page_list);
> >  
> > +	/*
> > +	 * If reclaim is encountering dirty pages, it may be because
> > +	 * dirty pages are reaching the end of the LRU even though the
> > +	 * dirty_ratio may be satisified. In this case, wake flusher
> > +	 * threads to pro-actively clean up to a maximum of
> > +	 * 4 * SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX amount of data (usually 1/2MB) unless
> > +	 * !may_writepage indicates that this is a direct reclaimer in
> > +	 * laptop mode avoiding disk spin-ups
> > +	 */
> > +	if (file && nr_dirty_seen && sc->may_writepage)
> > +		wakeup_flusher_threads(nr_writeback_pages(nr_dirty));
> > +
> 
> Thank you. Ok, I'll check what happens in memcg.
> 

Thanks

> Can I add
> 	if (sc->memcg) {
> 		memcg_check_flusher_wakeup()
> 	}
> or some here ?
> 

It seems reasonable.

> Hm, maybe memcg should wake up flusher at starting try_to_free_memory_cgroup_pages().
> 

I'm afraid I cannot make a judgement call on which is the best as I am
not very familiar with how cgroups behave in comparison to normal
reclaim. There could easily be a follow-on patch though that was cgroup
specific?

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-09  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-06 10:47 [PATCH 0/9] Reduce latencies and improve overall reclaim efficiency v1 Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 01/10] tracing, vmscan: Add trace events for LRU list shrinking Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 02/10] writeback: Account for time spent congestion_waited Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 03/10] writeback: Do not congestion sleep if there are no congested BDIs or significant writeback Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-07 15:25   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-07 15:25     ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08 11:04     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08 11:04       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08 14:52       ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08 14:52         ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-09  8:54         ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-09  8:54           ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-12 15:37           ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-12 15:37             ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-13  8:55             ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13  8:55               ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13  9:48               ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-13  9:48                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-13 10:07                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 10:07                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 10:20                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-13 10:20                     ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-13 10:30                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 10:30                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08 21:23   ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-08 21:23     ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-09 10:43     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-09 10:43       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-09  3:02   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  3:02     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  8:58     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-09  8:58       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 04/10] vmscan: Synchronous lumpy reclaim should not call congestion_wait() Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-07 15:26   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-07 15:26     ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08  6:15   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-09-08  6:15     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-09-08 11:25   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-08 11:25     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-09  3:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  3:03     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 05/10] vmscan: Synchrounous lumpy reclaim use lock_page() instead trylock_page() Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-07 15:28   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-07 15:28     ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08  6:16   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-09-08  6:16     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-09-08 11:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-08 11:28     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-09  3:04   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  3:04     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  3:15     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  3:15       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  3:25       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-09  3:25         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-09  4:13       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-09  4:13         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-09  9:22         ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-09  9:22           ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-10 10:25           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-10 10:25             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-10 10:33             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-10 10:33               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-10 10:33               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-13  9:14             ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13  9:14               ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-14 10:14               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-14 10:14                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 06/10] vmscan: Narrow the scenarios lumpy reclaim uses synchrounous reclaim Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-09  3:14   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  3:14     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 07/10] vmscan: Remove dead code in shrink_inactive_list() Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-07 15:33   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-07 15:33     ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 08/10] vmscan: isolated_lru_pages() stop neighbour search if neighbour cannot be isolated Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-07 15:37   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-07 15:37     ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08 11:12     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08 11:12       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08 14:58       ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08 14:58         ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08 11:37   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-08 11:37     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-08 12:50     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08 12:50       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08 13:14       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-08 13:14         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-08 13:27         ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08 13:27           ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-09  3:17   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  3:17     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 09/10] vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 13:31   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13 13:31     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13 13:55     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 13:55       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 14:33       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13 14:33         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-28 21:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-28 21:50     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-29 10:26     ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-29 10:26       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 10/10] vmscan: Kick flusher threads to clean pages when reclaim is encountering dirty pages Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-09  3:22   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  3:22     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  9:32     ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-09-09  9:32       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13  0:53       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-13  0:53         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-13 13:48   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13 13:48     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13 14:10     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 14:10       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 14:41       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13 14:41         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 0/9] Reduce latencies and improve overall reclaim efficiency v1 Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:49   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08  3:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-08  3:14   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-08  8:38   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08  8:38     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 23:10 ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-13 23:10   ` Minchan Kim

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