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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: "Dr. Werner Fink" <werner@suse.de>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: tty: add 'active' sysfs attribute to tty0 and console device
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:41:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101118144123.5417ccbd@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101118131420.GA23872@boole.suse.de>

> How can I detect the major and minor of the primary console device
> of /dev/console without controlling tty?  Even if my old blogd

In the general case you can't - because a console may not have a tty.
Quite a few don't. For the cases where one has a device I can't see a
clean way to do it as an fstat on the console device will give you the
console major/mninor and some code depends upon that.

The iniability to get it is clearly a flaw and you need the sysfs link or
a sysfs list of consoles (again remembering many of them won't have a tty
bound).

> and the bootlogd(8) of SysInitV using TIOCCONS are outdated by SystemD
> the question before doing the TIOCCONS is which is the primary console
> device to e.g. create the device node in initrd or for bootlogd(8)
> to write a copy of the console messages back to the original
> primary console (and the other console devices).

For init it is /dev/console as opened at boot time and passed to the
initial user init task but with no nice way to work back to a device node.

Incidentally the primary console (as in printk) can be accessed as a tty
via the ttyprintk driver which got added recently because embedded people
wanted to use the printk interface as a (write only) tty console as well.





  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-18 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-16 15:46 tty: add 'active' sysfs attribute to tty0 and console device Kay Sievers
2010-11-16 15:57 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-16 16:13   ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-16 17:14     ` Alan Cox
2010-11-16 18:51       ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-16 19:55         ` Alan Cox
2010-11-16 20:15           ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-16 20:49             ` Alan Cox
2010-11-16 21:29               ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-16 21:42               ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 22:51                 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-16 22:58                   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 23:04                     ` Alan Cox
2010-11-16 23:18                       ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 23:49                         ` Etched Pixels
2010-11-16 21:36           ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 22:56             ` Alan Cox
2010-11-16 23:10               ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-16 23:45                 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-17 16:31                 ` John Stoffel
2010-11-17 22:01                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-17 23:40                   ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-17 23:56                     ` Alan Cox
2010-11-18  1:27                       ` Greg KH
2010-11-18  1:48                         ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-18  1:53                           ` Greg KH
2010-11-18  2:29                             ` Lennart Poettering
2010-11-18 11:00                             ` Dr. Werner Fink
2010-11-18 11:23                               ` Alan Cox
2010-11-18 12:12                                 ` Dr. Werner Fink
2010-11-18 12:58                                   ` Alan Cox
2010-11-18 13:14                                     ` Dr. Werner Fink
2010-11-18 14:41                                       ` Alan Cox [this message]
2010-11-19 13:21                                         ` Dr. Werner Fink
2010-11-19 15:47                                           ` Alan Cox
2010-11-19 17:07                                             ` Dr. Werner Fink
2010-11-19 18:02                                             ` Greg KH
2010-11-19 18:41                                               ` Dr. Werner Fink
2010-11-20 12:40                                                 ` Alan Cox
2010-12-01 11:15                                                   ` Dr. Werner Fink
2010-11-18 12:04                               ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-18 10:15                         ` Alan Cox
2010-11-18 11:55                           ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-18 13:01                             ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <20101201112004.12d78cd7@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
2010-12-01 12:32 ` Dr. Werner Fink
     [not found]   ` <tiocgdev1@mdm.bga.com>
2010-12-03 11:48     ` Dr. Werner Fink

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