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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Mark Lord <kernel@teksavvy.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Alex Elder <aelder@sgi.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: xfs: very slow after mount, very slow at umount
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:30:11 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110127033011.GH21311@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D40C8D1.8090202@teksavvy.com>

[Please cc xfs@oss.sgi.com on XFS bug reports. Added.]

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 08:22:25PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
> Alex / Christoph,
> 
> My mythtv box here uses XFS on a 2TB drive for storing recordings and videos.
> It is behaving rather strangely though, and has gotten worse recently.
> Here is what I see happening:
> 
> The drive mounts fine at boot, but the very first attempt to write a new file
> to the filesystem suffers from a very very long pause, 30-60 seconds, during which
> time the disk activity light is fully "on".

Please post the output of xfs_info <mtpt> so we can see what you
filesystem configuration is.

> This happens only on the first new file write after mounting.
> From then on, the filesystem is fast and responsive as expected.
> If I umount the filesystem, and then mount it again,
> the exact same behaviour can be observed.

I can't say I've seen this. Can you capture a blktrace of the IO so
we can see what IO is actually being done, and perhaps also record
an XFS event trace as well (i.e. of all the events in
/sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/xfs).

> This of course screws up mythtv, as it causes me to lose the first 30-60
> seconds of the first recording it attempts after booting.  So as a workaround
> I now have a startup script to create, sync, and delete a 64MB file before
> starting mythtv.  This still takes 30-60 seconds, but it all happens and
> finishes before mythtv has a real-time need to write to the filesystem.
> 
> The 2TB drive is fine -- zero errors, no events in the SMART logs,
> and I've disabled the silly WD head-unload logic on it.
> 
> What's happening here?  Why the big long burst of activity?
> I've only just noticed this behaviour in the past few weeks,
> running 2.6.35 and more recently 2.6.37.

Can you be a bit more precise? what were you running before 2.6.35
when you didn't notice this?

> * * *
> 
> The other issue is something I notice at umount time.
> I have a second big drive used as a backup device for the drive discussed above.
> I use "mirrordir" (similar to rsync) to clone directories/files from the main
> drive to the backup drive.  After mirrordir finishes, I then "umount /backup".
> The umount promptly hangs, disk light on solid, for 30-60 seconds, then finishes.

Same again - blktrace and event traces for the different cases.

Also, how many files are you syncing? how much data, number of
inodes, etc...

> If I type "sync" just before doing the umount, sync takes about 1 second,
> and the umount finishes instantly.
> 
> Huh? What's happening there?

Sounds like something is broken w.r.t. writeback during unmount.
Perhaps also adding the writeback events to the trace would help
understand what is happening here....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Mark Lord <kernel@teksavvy.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com, Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alex Elder <aelder@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: xfs: very slow after mount, very slow at umount
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:30:11 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110127033011.GH21311@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D40C8D1.8090202@teksavvy.com>

[Please cc xfs@oss.sgi.com on XFS bug reports. Added.]

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 08:22:25PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
> Alex / Christoph,
> 
> My mythtv box here uses XFS on a 2TB drive for storing recordings and videos.
> It is behaving rather strangely though, and has gotten worse recently.
> Here is what I see happening:
> 
> The drive mounts fine at boot, but the very first attempt to write a new file
> to the filesystem suffers from a very very long pause, 30-60 seconds, during which
> time the disk activity light is fully "on".

Please post the output of xfs_info <mtpt> so we can see what you
filesystem configuration is.

> This happens only on the first new file write after mounting.
> From then on, the filesystem is fast and responsive as expected.
> If I umount the filesystem, and then mount it again,
> the exact same behaviour can be observed.

I can't say I've seen this. Can you capture a blktrace of the IO so
we can see what IO is actually being done, and perhaps also record
an XFS event trace as well (i.e. of all the events in
/sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/xfs).

> This of course screws up mythtv, as it causes me to lose the first 30-60
> seconds of the first recording it attempts after booting.  So as a workaround
> I now have a startup script to create, sync, and delete a 64MB file before
> starting mythtv.  This still takes 30-60 seconds, but it all happens and
> finishes before mythtv has a real-time need to write to the filesystem.
> 
> The 2TB drive is fine -- zero errors, no events in the SMART logs,
> and I've disabled the silly WD head-unload logic on it.
> 
> What's happening here?  Why the big long burst of activity?
> I've only just noticed this behaviour in the past few weeks,
> running 2.6.35 and more recently 2.6.37.

Can you be a bit more precise? what were you running before 2.6.35
when you didn't notice this?

> * * *
> 
> The other issue is something I notice at umount time.
> I have a second big drive used as a backup device for the drive discussed above.
> I use "mirrordir" (similar to rsync) to clone directories/files from the main
> drive to the backup drive.  After mirrordir finishes, I then "umount /backup".
> The umount promptly hangs, disk light on solid, for 30-60 seconds, then finishes.

Same again - blktrace and event traces for the different cases.

Also, how many files are you syncing? how much data, number of
inodes, etc...

> If I type "sync" just before doing the umount, sync takes about 1 second,
> and the umount finishes instantly.
> 
> Huh? What's happening there?

Sounds like something is broken w.r.t. writeback during unmount.
Perhaps also adding the writeback events to the trace would help
understand what is happening here....

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-01-27  3:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-27  1:22 xfs: very slow after mount, very slow at umount Mark Lord
2011-01-27  1:43 ` Mark Lord
2011-01-27  3:43   ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-27  3:43     ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-27  3:53     ` Mark Lord
2011-01-27  3:53       ` Mark Lord
2011-01-27  4:54       ` Mark Lord
2011-01-27  4:54         ` Mark Lord
2011-01-27 23:34       ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-27 23:34         ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-27  3:30 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2011-01-27  3:30   ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-27  3:49   ` Mark Lord
2011-01-27  3:49     ` Mark Lord
2011-01-27  5:17     ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-01-27 15:12     ` Mark Lord
2011-01-27 15:12       ` Mark Lord
2011-01-27 15:40       ` Justin Piszcz
2011-01-27 15:40         ` Justin Piszcz
2011-01-27 16:03         ` Mark Lord
2011-01-27 16:03           ` Mark Lord
2011-01-27 19:40           ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-01-27 19:40             ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-01-27 20:11             ` david
2011-01-27 20:11               ` david
2011-01-27 23:53               ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-01-27 23:53                 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-01-28  2:09                 ` david
2011-01-28  2:09                   ` david
2011-01-28 13:56                   ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-28 13:56                     ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-28 19:26                     ` david
2011-01-28 19:26                       ` david
2011-01-29  5:40                       ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-29  5:40                         ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-29  6:08                         ` david
2011-01-29  6:08                           ` david
2011-01-29  7:35                           ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-29  7:35                             ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-31 19:17                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-31 19:17                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-27 21:56             ` Mark Lord
2011-01-27 21:56               ` Mark Lord
2011-01-28  0:17               ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-28  0:17                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-28  1:22                 ` Mark Lord
2011-01-28  1:22                   ` Mark Lord
2011-01-28  1:36                   ` Mark Lord
2011-01-28  1:36                     ` Mark Lord
2011-01-28  4:14                   ` David Rees
2011-01-28  4:14                     ` David Rees
2011-01-28 14:22                     ` Mark Lord
2011-01-28 14:22                       ` Mark Lord
2011-01-28  7:31                   ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-28  7:31                     ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-28 14:33                     ` Mark Lord
2011-01-28 14:33                       ` Mark Lord
2011-01-28 23:58                       ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-28 23:58                         ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-28 19:18             ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-01-28 19:18               ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-01-27 20:24           ` John Stoffel
2011-01-27 20:24             ` John Stoffel
2011-01-27 23:41       ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-27 23:41         ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-28  0:59         ` Mark Lord
2011-01-28  0:59           ` Mark Lord
2011-01-27 23:39     ` Dave Chinner
2011-01-27 23:39       ` Dave Chinner

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