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From: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: bhutchings@solarflare.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru,
	pekkas@netcore.fi, jmorris@namei.org, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,
	kaber@trash.net, eric.dumazet@gmail.com, therbert@google.com,
	xiaosuo@gmail.com, jesse@nicira.com, kees.cook@canonical.com,
	eugene@redhat.com, dan.j.rosenberg@gmail.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] don't allow CAP_NET_ADMIN to load non-netdev kernel modules
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:44:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110227114438.GA4317@albatros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110225.111606.115927805.davem@davemloft.net>

David,

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:16 -0800, David Miller wrote:
> From: Ben Hutchings <bhutchings@solarflare.com>
> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:07:59 +0000
> 
> > You realise that module loading doesn't actually run in the context of
> > request_module(), right?
> 
> Why is that a barrier?  We could simply pass a capability mask into
> request_module if necessary.
> 
> It's an implementation detail, and not a deterrant to my suggested
> scheme.

Let's discuss your scheme.  AFAIU, you suggest to change:


1. a) request_module("%s", devname) =>
request_module_with_caps(CAP_NET_ADMIN, "%s", devname)

   b) call_usermodehelper() => call_usermodehelper_with_caps()

   c) add some bits/sections into kernel module image indicating that
this module is safe to be loaded via CAP_NET_ADMIN

   d) run modprobe with CAP_NET_ADMIN only

   e) in load_module() check whether (the process has CAP_SYS_MODULE) or
(the process has CAP_NET_ADMIN and bit SAFE_NET_MODULE is raised in
the module image)

This obviously doesn't work - the kernel is not able to verify whether
the bit/section is not malformed by user with CAP_NET_ADMIN.


-OR-


1. a) request_module("%s", devname) => request_module_with_argument("--netdev", "%s", devname)

   b) patch modprobe to add "--netmodule-only" argument (or bitmask,
whatever), this would indicate that only net/** modules may be loaded.

Then the things are still broken - a user has to update modprobe
together with the kernel, otherwise the updated kernel would call
"modprobe" with unsupported argument and even "sit0" wouldn't work.


Additionally this touches module loading process, which is not buggy.


Or you propose something else besides these 2 ways?  Please clarify.


Thanks,

-- 
Vasiliy Kulikov
http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-27 11:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-24 15:12 module loading with CAP_NET_ADMIN Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-24 16:34 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-02-25 12:30   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-25 15:14     ` [PATCH] don't allow CAP_NET_ADMIN to load non-netdev kernel modules Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-25 17:25       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-02-25 17:47         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-25 17:48         ` Ben Hutchings
2011-02-25 18:47       ` David Miller
2011-02-25 19:02         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-25 19:05           ` David Miller
2011-02-25 19:07             ` Ben Hutchings
2011-02-25 19:16               ` David Miller
2011-02-25 19:30                 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-02-25 19:43                   ` David Miller
2011-02-25 19:53                     ` Ben Hutchings
2011-02-25 20:37                       ` David Miller
2011-02-25 20:38                       ` Ben Hutchings
2011-02-25 20:59                         ` Michał Mirosław
2011-02-27 20:22                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-02-28  9:29                             ` Michael Tokarev
2011-02-28  9:51                               ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-28 19:23                                 ` David Miller
2011-03-01 19:48                                   ` [PATCH] net: " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-01 20:13                                     ` Ben Hutchings
2011-03-01 21:33                                       ` [PATCH v2] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-02  7:15                                         ` Michael Tokarev
2011-03-09 22:06                                           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-09 22:09                                             ` David Miller
2011-03-09 22:53                                               ` James Morris
2011-03-10  9:49                                                 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-02 16:01                                         ` Kees Cook
2011-03-02 19:39                                         ` Jake Edge
2011-03-02 19:43                                           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-02 19:49                                             ` Jake Edge
2011-03-02 20:18                                               ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-03-02 20:38                                                 ` Jake Edge
2011-03-02 20:40                                                 ` Jake Edge
2011-03-22 20:47                                         ` Eric Paris
2011-03-22 20:47                                           ` Eric Paris
2011-03-24 15:37                                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-03-24 18:03                                             ` Eric Paris
2011-03-24 18:33                                               ` Ben Hutchings
2011-03-24 20:26                                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-03-24 21:39                                                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-24 21:46                                                     ` David Miller
2011-03-24 21:57                                                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-03-24 22:15                                                         ` Eric Paris
2011-03-24 21:57                                                       ` Greg KH
2011-03-26 10:35                                                       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-02-27 11:44                 ` Vasiliy Kulikov [this message]
2011-02-27 23:18                   ` [PATCH] " David Miller
2011-02-27 23:19                   ` David Miller
2011-02-25 15:29     ` module loading with CAP_NET_ADMIN Michael Tokarev
2011-02-25 15:57       ` Vasiliy Kulikov

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