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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@novell.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	colin.king@canonical.com, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG] fatal hang untarring 90GB file, possibly writeback related.
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:42:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110506114245.GE6591@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110506074224.GB6591@suse.de>

On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 08:42:24AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 09:22:33AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 09:13 -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > I've got a ftrace output of kswapd ... it's 500k compressed, so I'll
> > > send under separate cover.
> > 
> > Here it is ... it's under 2.6.38.4 vanilla, but the code is similar. 
> > 
> 
> I was quiet because I was off trying to reproduce this but not having
> much luck. It doesn't seem directly related to filesystems or
> cgroups. For example, here is what I see with ext4 without cgroups
> 
>                 2.6.34-vanilla    2.6.37-vanilla    2.6.38-vanilla       rc6-vanilla
> download tar           70 ( 0.00%)   68 ( 2.94%)   69 ( 1.45%)   70 ( 0.00%)
> unpack tar            601 ( 0.00%)  605 (-0.66%)  604 (-0.50%)  605 (-0.66%)
> copy source files     319 ( 0.00%)  321 (-0.62%)  320 (-0.31%)  332 (-3.92%)
> create tarfile       1368 ( 0.00%) 1372 (-0.29%) 1371 (-0.22%) 1363 ( 0.37%)
> delete source dirs     21 ( 0.00%)   21 ( 0.00%)   23 (-8.70%)   22 (-4.55%)
> expand tar            263 ( 0.00%)  261 ( 0.77%)  257 ( 2.33%)  259 ( 1.54%)
> 
> (all results are in seconds)
> 
> When running in cgroups, the results are similar - bit slower but
> not remarkably so. ext3 is slower but not enough to count as the bug.
> 
> The trace you posted is very short but kswapd is not going to sleep
> in it. It's less than a seconds worth on different cpus so it's hard
> to draw any conclusion from it other than sleeping_prematurely()
> is often deciding that kswapd should not sleep.
> 
> So lets consider what keeps it awake.
> 
> 1. High-order allocations? You machine is using i915 and RPC, something
>    neither of my test machine uses. i915 is potentially a source for
>    high-order allocations. I'm attaching a perl script. Please run it as
>    ./watch-highorder.pl --output /tmp/highorders.txt
>    while you are running tar. When kswapd is running for about 30
>    seconds, interrupt it with ctrl+c twice in quick succession and
>    post /tmp/highorders.txt
> 
> 2. All unreclaimable is not being set or we are not balancing at all.
>    Can you post the output of sysrq+m while the machine is struggling
>    please?
> 
> 3. Slab may not be shrinking for some reason. Can you run a shell
>    script like this during the whole test and record its output please?
> 
>    #!/bin/bash
>    while [ 1 ]; do
> 	   echo time: `date +%s`
> 	   cat /proc/vmstat
> 	   sleep 2
>    done
> 
>    Similarly if this is a slab issue, it'd be nice to know who it is so
> 
>    #!/bin/bash
>    while [ 1 ]; do
> 	   echo time: `date +%s`
> 	   cat /proc/slabinfo
> 	   sleep $MONITOR_UPDATE_FREQUENCY
>    done
> 
> 4. Lets get a better look at what is going on in kswapd
> 
>    echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/vmscan/enable
>    cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace_pipe > vmscan-ftrace.txt
> 

Also, could you test the patch at https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/3/5/121
please?

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@novell.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	colin.king@canonical.com, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG] fatal hang untarring 90GB file, possibly writeback related.
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:42:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110506114245.GE6591@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110506074224.GB6591@suse.de>

On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 08:42:24AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 09:22:33AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 09:13 -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > I've got a ftrace output of kswapd ... it's 500k compressed, so I'll
> > > send under separate cover.
> > 
> > Here it is ... it's under 2.6.38.4 vanilla, but the code is similar. 
> > 
> 
> I was quiet because I was off trying to reproduce this but not having
> much luck. It doesn't seem directly related to filesystems or
> cgroups. For example, here is what I see with ext4 without cgroups
> 
>                 2.6.34-vanilla    2.6.37-vanilla    2.6.38-vanilla       rc6-vanilla
> download tar           70 ( 0.00%)   68 ( 2.94%)   69 ( 1.45%)   70 ( 0.00%)
> unpack tar            601 ( 0.00%)  605 (-0.66%)  604 (-0.50%)  605 (-0.66%)
> copy source files     319 ( 0.00%)  321 (-0.62%)  320 (-0.31%)  332 (-3.92%)
> create tarfile       1368 ( 0.00%) 1372 (-0.29%) 1371 (-0.22%) 1363 ( 0.37%)
> delete source dirs     21 ( 0.00%)   21 ( 0.00%)   23 (-8.70%)   22 (-4.55%)
> expand tar            263 ( 0.00%)  261 ( 0.77%)  257 ( 2.33%)  259 ( 1.54%)
> 
> (all results are in seconds)
> 
> When running in cgroups, the results are similar - bit slower but
> not remarkably so. ext3 is slower but not enough to count as the bug.
> 
> The trace you posted is very short but kswapd is not going to sleep
> in it. It's less than a seconds worth on different cpus so it's hard
> to draw any conclusion from it other than sleeping_prematurely()
> is often deciding that kswapd should not sleep.
> 
> So lets consider what keeps it awake.
> 
> 1. High-order allocations? You machine is using i915 and RPC, something
>    neither of my test machine uses. i915 is potentially a source for
>    high-order allocations. I'm attaching a perl script. Please run it as
>    ./watch-highorder.pl --output /tmp/highorders.txt
>    while you are running tar. When kswapd is running for about 30
>    seconds, interrupt it with ctrl+c twice in quick succession and
>    post /tmp/highorders.txt
> 
> 2. All unreclaimable is not being set or we are not balancing at all.
>    Can you post the output of sysrq+m while the machine is struggling
>    please?
> 
> 3. Slab may not be shrinking for some reason. Can you run a shell
>    script like this during the whole test and record its output please?
> 
>    #!/bin/bash
>    while [ 1 ]; do
> 	   echo time: `date +%s`
> 	   cat /proc/vmstat
> 	   sleep 2
>    done
> 
>    Similarly if this is a slab issue, it'd be nice to know who it is so
> 
>    #!/bin/bash
>    while [ 1 ]; do
> 	   echo time: `date +%s`
> 	   cat /proc/slabinfo
> 	   sleep $MONITOR_UPDATE_FREQUENCY
>    done
> 
> 4. Lets get a better look at what is going on in kswapd
> 
>    echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/vmscan/enable
>    cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace_pipe > vmscan-ftrace.txt
> 

Also, could you test the patch at https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/3/5/121
please?

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-06 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-27 16:09 [BUG] fatal hang untarring 90GB file, possibly writeback related James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:09 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:33 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 16:33   ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 16:50   ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:50     ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:50     ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 16:54     ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 16:54       ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 17:21       ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 17:21         ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 17:21         ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 17:34         ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 17:34           ` Chris Mason
2011-04-27 17:50           ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 17:50             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 18:25             ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-27 18:25               ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 15:57               ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 15:57                 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 20:05             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-27 20:05               ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 11:36               ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 11:36                 ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 12:29                 ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 12:29                   ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 13:42                   ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 13:42                     ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 13:45                     ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 13:45                       ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 14:01                       ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 14:04                         ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 14:04                           ` Chris Mason
2011-04-28 15:23                           ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 14:25                         ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:25                           ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:33                           ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:33                             ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:58                             ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 22:40                               ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 22:40                                 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 22:44                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 22:44                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 18:55                                 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-03 18:55                                   ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 16:11                             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:11                               ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 14:49                   ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 14:49                     ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 13:52                 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 13:52                   ` Jan Kara
2011-04-28 14:07                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 14:07                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 14:25                     ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 14:25                       ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 15:08                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 15:08                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 16:01                         ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:01                           ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:50                           ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:50                             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:56                             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 16:56                               ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 17:18                               ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 17:18                                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 18:30                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 18:30                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 19:21                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 19:21                                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 19:59                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 19:59                                       ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 20:27                                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-28 20:27                                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-04-29 15:02                                         ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 15:02                                           ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 21:12                                       ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 21:12                                         ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 22:43                                         ` James Bottomley
2011-04-28 22:43                                           ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03  9:13                                           ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-03  9:13                                             ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-03 14:13                                             ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 14:13                                               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03 14:22                                               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-06  7:42                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06  7:42                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06  8:07                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-09 18:16                                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-09 18:16                                                       ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 10:21                                                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 10:21                                                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 10:33                                                         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-10 10:33                                                           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-10 14:01                                                         ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 14:01                                                           ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 14:35                                                           ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 14:35                                                             ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 15:29                                                             ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 15:29                                                               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 15:57                                                               ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 15:57                                                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:05                                                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:05                                                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:17                                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 17:17                                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10 17:29                                                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 17:29                                                                       ` James Bottomley
2011-05-10 21:08                                                               ` Raghavendra D Prabhu
2011-05-11  9:16                                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-11  9:16                                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 11:42                                                   ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2011-05-06 11:42                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 15:44                                                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 15:44                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 19:14                                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-06 19:14                                                       ` James Bottomley
2011-05-06 19:37                                                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-06 19:37                                                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-10  5:37                                                     ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-10  5:37                                                       ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-10  5:37                                                       ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-06 15:58                                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-03  9:54                                 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-03  9:54                                   ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 17:10                         ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28 17:10                           ` Colin Ian King
2011-04-28  0:37         ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-28  0:37           ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-29 10:23         ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-29 10:23           ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-29 15:37           ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 15:37             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 16:31             ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 16:31               ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 18:02               ` James Bottomley
2011-04-29 18:02                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-02 20:04                 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-02 20:04                   ` James Bottomley

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