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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Zhi Yong Wu <wuzhy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, kwolf@redhat.com,
	guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com, herbert@gondor.hengli.com.au,
	stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com, aliguori@us.ibm.com,
	raharper@us.ibm.com, luowenj@cn.ibm.com, wuzhy@cn.ibm.com,
	zhanx@cn.ibm.com, zhaoyang@cn.ibm.com, llim@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel][RFC]QEMU disk I/O limits
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:56:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110531135646.GF17656@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110531134537.GE16382@redhat.com>

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 09:45:37AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 01:09:23PM +0800, Zhi Yong Wu wrote:
> > Hello, all,
> > 
> >     I have prepared to work on a feature called "Disk I/O limits" for qemu-kvm projeect.
> >     This feature will enable the user to cap disk I/O amount performed by a VM.It is important for some storage resources to be shared among multi-VMs. As you've known, if some of VMs are doing excessive disk I/O, they will hurt the performance of other VMs.
> > 
> 
> Hi Zhiyong,
> 
> Why not use kernel blkio controller for this and why reinvent the wheel
> and implement the feature again in qemu?

The finest level of granularity offered by cgroups apply limits per QEMU
process. So the blkio controller can't be used to apply controls directly
to individual disks used by QEMU, only the VM as a whole.

We networking we can use 'net_cls' cgroups controller for the process
as a whole, or attach  'tc' to individual TAP devices for per-NIC
throttling, both of which ultimately use the same kernel functionality.
I don't see an equivalent option for throttling individual disks that
would reuse functionality from the blkio controller.

Regards,
Daniel
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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, aliguori@us.ibm.com,
	stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	wuzhy@cn.ibm.com, herbert@gondor.hengli.com.au,
	Zhi Yong Wu <wuzhy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	luowenj@cn.ibm.com, zhanx@cn.ibm.com, zhaoyang@cn.ibm.com,
	llim@redhat.com, raharper@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC]QEMU disk I/O limits
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:56:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110531135646.GF17656@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110531134537.GE16382@redhat.com>

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 09:45:37AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 01:09:23PM +0800, Zhi Yong Wu wrote:
> > Hello, all,
> > 
> >     I have prepared to work on a feature called "Disk I/O limits" for qemu-kvm projeect.
> >     This feature will enable the user to cap disk I/O amount performed by a VM.It is important for some storage resources to be shared among multi-VMs. As you've known, if some of VMs are doing excessive disk I/O, they will hurt the performance of other VMs.
> > 
> 
> Hi Zhiyong,
> 
> Why not use kernel blkio controller for this and why reinvent the wheel
> and implement the feature again in qemu?

The finest level of granularity offered by cgroups apply limits per QEMU
process. So the blkio controller can't be used to apply controls directly
to individual disks used by QEMU, only the VM as a whole.

We networking we can use 'net_cls' cgroups controller for the process
as a whole, or attach  'tc' to individual TAP devices for per-NIC
throttling, both of which ultimately use the same kernel functionality.
I don't see an equivalent option for throttling individual disks that
would reuse functionality from the blkio controller.

Regards,
Daniel
-- 
|: http://berrange.com      -o-    http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :|
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|: http://autobuild.org       -o-         http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :|
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-31 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-30  5:09 [Qemu-devel][RFC]QEMU disk I/O limits Zhi Yong Wu
2011-05-30  5:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC]QEMU " Zhi Yong Wu
2011-05-31 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel][RFC]QEMU " Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 13:45   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC]QEMU " Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 13:50   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-31 13:50     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-05-31 14:04     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 14:04       ` [Qemu-devel] " Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 14:25       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-31 17:59         ` Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 17:59           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 18:39           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-31 18:39             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-31 19:24             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 19:24               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 23:30               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-01 13:20                 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-06-01 21:15                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-01 21:15                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-01 21:42                     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-06-01 21:42                       ` Vivek Goyal
2011-06-01 22:28                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-01 22:28                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-04  8:54                 ` Blue Swirl
2011-06-04  8:54                   ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-31 20:48             ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-31 20:48               ` [Qemu-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2011-05-31 22:22               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-31 13:56   ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2011-05-31 13:56     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-31 14:10     ` [Qemu-devel][RFC]QEMU " Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 14:10       ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC]QEMU " Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 14:19       ` [Qemu-devel][RFC]QEMU " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-31 14:19         ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC]QEMU " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-31 14:28         ` [Qemu-devel][RFC]QEMU " Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 14:28           ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC]QEMU " Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 15:28         ` [Qemu-devel][RFC]QEMU " Ryan Harper
2011-05-31 15:28           ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC]QEMU " Ryan Harper
2011-05-31 19:55 ` [Qemu-devel][RFC]QEMU " Vivek Goyal
2011-05-31 19:55   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC]QEMU " Vivek Goyal
2011-06-01  3:12   ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-01  3:12     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-02  9:33     ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-02  9:33       ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-03  6:56       ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-03  6:56         ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-01  3:19   ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-01  3:19     ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-01 13:32     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-06-02  6:07       ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-02  6:17 ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-02  6:17   ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-02  6:29   ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-02  7:15     ` Sasha Levin
2011-06-02  8:18       ` Zhi Yong Wu
2011-06-02  8:18         ` Zhi Yong Wu

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