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From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
To: Mark Lord <kernel@teksavvy.com>
Cc: Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	Brad Campbell <brad@fnarfbargle.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	Bart De Schuymer <bdschuym@pandora.be>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: KVM induced panic on 2.6.38[2367] & 2.6.39
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:43:41 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110610164341.GA784@khazad-dum.debian.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DF21002.3040708@teksavvy.com>

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Mark Lord wrote:
> Something many of us don't realize is that nearly all Intel chipsets
> have a built-in hardware watchdog timer.  This includes chipset for
> consumer desktop boards as well as the big iron server stuff.
> 
> It's the "i8xx_tco" driver in the kernel enables use of them:

That's the old module name, but yes, it is very useful in desktops and
laptops (when it works).   Server-class hardware will have a baseboard
management unit that can really power-cycle the system instead of just
rebooting.

And test it first before you depend on it triggering at a remote location,
as the firmware might cause the Intel chipset watchdog to actually hang the
box instead of causing a proper reboot (happens on the IBM thinkpad T43, for
example).

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
To: Mark Lord <kernel@teksavvy.com>
Cc: Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	Brad Campbell <brad@fnarfbargle.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	Bart De Schuymer <bdschuym@pandora.be>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: KVM induced panic on 2.6.38[2367] & 2.6.39
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:43:41 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110610164341.GA784@khazad-dum.debian.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DF21002.3040708@teksavvy.com>

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Mark Lord wrote:
> Something many of us don't realize is that nearly all Intel chipsets
> have a built-in hardware watchdog timer.  This includes chipset for
> consumer desktop boards as well as the big iron server stuff.
> 
> It's the "i8xx_tco" driver in the kernel enables use of them:

That's the old module name, but yes, it is very useful in desktops and
laptops (when it works).   Server-class hardware will have a baseboard
management unit that can really power-cycle the system instead of just
rebooting.

And test it first before you depend on it triggering at a remote location,
as the firmware might cause the Intel chipset watchdog to actually hang the
box instead of causing a proper reboot (happens on the IBM thinkpad T43, for
example).

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-10 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-31  1:24 KVM induced panic on 2.6.38[2367] & 2.6.39 Brad Campbell
2011-05-31  5:47 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-05-31  5:47   ` Borislav Petkov
2011-05-31  9:26   ` Brad Campbell
2011-05-31  9:26     ` Brad Campbell
2011-05-31 10:38     ` Borislav Petkov
2011-05-31 10:38       ` Borislav Petkov
2011-05-31 14:24       ` Brad Campbell
2011-05-31 14:24         ` Brad Campbell
2011-05-31 14:24         ` Brad Campbell
2011-05-31 22:31         ` Hugh Dickins
2011-05-31 22:31           ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-01  0:18           ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01  0:18             ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01  0:37           ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01  0:37             ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01  1:15             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-01  1:15               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-01  2:03               ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01  2:03                 ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01  4:52               ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-01  4:52                 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-01  6:31                 ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01  6:31                   ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01  6:56                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-01  6:56                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-01  9:29                     ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01  9:29                       ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01  9:29                       ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01  9:40                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-01  9:40                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-01  9:41                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-01  9:41                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-01 10:53                           ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01 10:53                             ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01 11:09                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-01 11:09                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-01 11:18                             ` CaT
2011-06-01 11:18                               ` CaT
2011-06-01 11:52                               ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01 11:52                                 ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-01 23:03                                 ` CaT
2011-06-01 23:03                                   ` CaT
2011-06-03 13:38                                   ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-03 13:38                                     ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-03 15:50                                     ` Bernhard Held
2011-06-03 15:50                                       ` Bernhard Held
2011-06-03 15:50                                       ` Bernhard Held
2011-06-03 16:07                                       ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-03 16:07                                         ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-06 20:10                                         ` Bart De Schuymer
2011-06-06 20:10                                           ` Bart De Schuymer
2011-06-06 20:23                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 20:23                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 20:23                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07  3:33                                           ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-07  3:33                                             ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-07 13:30                                             ` Patrick McHardy
2011-06-07 13:30                                               ` Patrick McHardy
2011-06-07 14:40                                               ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-07 14:40                                                 ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-07 15:35                                                 ` Patrick McHardy
2011-06-07 15:35                                                   ` Patrick McHardy
2011-06-07 18:31                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07 18:31                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07 18:31                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07 22:57                                                     ` Patrick McHardy
2011-06-07 22:57                                                       ` Patrick McHardy
2011-06-07 22:57                                                       ` Patrick McHardy
2011-06-08  0:18                                                       ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-08  0:18                                                         ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-08  0:18                                                         ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-08  3:59                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-08  3:59                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-08  3:59                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-08 17:02                                                           ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-08 17:02                                                             ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-08 17:02                                                             ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-08 21:22                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-08 21:22                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-08 21:22                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-10  2:52                                                             ` Simon Horman
2011-06-10  2:52                                                               ` Simon Horman
2011-06-10 12:37                                                               ` Mark Lord
2011-06-10 12:37                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2011-06-10 16:43                                                                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [this message]
2011-06-10 16:43                                                                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-06-12 15:38                                                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-12 15:38                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-07 23:43                                                   ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-07 23:43                                                     ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-07 18:04                                                 ` Bart De Schuymer
2011-06-07 18:04                                                   ` Bart De Schuymer
2011-06-08  0:15                                                   ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-08  0:15                                                     ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-05  8:14                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-05  8:14                                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-05 13:45                                       ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-05 13:45                                         ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-05 13:58                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-05 13:58                                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-06 20:22                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 20:22                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 20:22                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07 13:27                                           ` Brad Campbell
2011-06-07 13:37                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07 15:15                                               ` Brad Campbell
2011-08-20 13:16                                               ` Brad Campbell
2011-08-22  6:36                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22  6:45                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-08-22 11:45                                                     ` Brad Campbell

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