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From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] SPL framework re-design
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:27:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110627092728.D19B91A23C3F@gemini.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E0804DC.8090805@ti.com>

Dear Aneesh,

In message <4E0804DC.8090805@ti.com> you wrote:
>
> >> +spl:	$(TIMESTAMP_FILE) $(VERSION_FILE) depend
> >> +	$(MAKE) -C spl/ all
> >> +
> >>    $(obj)mmc_spl/u-boot-mmc-spl.bin:	mmc_spl
> >
> > The mmc_spl/ is suppoed to be moved into spl/, isn't it?
> 
> This patch was intended only as a prototype for the new directory
> structure. I didn't bother to touch the existing stuff.

I see.

> >> --- /dev/null
> >> +++ b/spl/Makefile
> >> @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@
> >> +#
> >> +# (C) Copyright 2011 Daniel Schwierzeck, daniel.schwierzeck at googlemail.com.
> >
> > Really???
> 
> I copied Daniel's Makefile and started from there.

I guess the only real part that was left from the old file is the GPL
header...

> > As Mike mentioned, we can eventually directly include the OBJSs here
> > and omit the building of libraries?
> 
> I can't seem to find a mail from Mike on this thread. Did I miss any
> mail?

I can find it either.  I don't know what I had in mind then.

> Do you mean re-using equivalent libraries from the normal U-Boot
> without re-compiling them?

There are actually two different topics here:

- The first is how to link all the objects in the spl/ tree together.
  As I understand, you proposal was to link all objects in each of the
  subdirectories into a library, and then link all the libraries
  together.

  Instead of doing this, we could as well just maintain a list of
  objects and then link all these together directly, without creating
  libraries first.

- The other topic is if to build new object files, and where.  At the
  moment we have two situations:

  * Some files are built with special options such that unneeded code
    gets commented out using respecive #ifdef's / #ifndef's.  We can
    probably get rid of (most of ?) these #ifdef's / #ifndef's when
    properly using -ffunction-sections / --gc-sections

    Why should we then recompile the code?

  * Some files (start.S) really need different code.  Here the
    questions is more how and where to recompile using proper options.
    I would be glad if we could get rid of the symlinking.  Maybe we
    can add respective build rules to the original Makefiles (see also
    proposal by Ilya,
    http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.boot-loaders.u-boot/102033 ),
    eventually just using a different suffix, say ".splo" instead of
    ".o"?

> > allow for vendor directories (where "BOARDDIR = $(VENDOR)/$(BOARD)").
> 
> I didn't want to make the directory structure any longer than required.
> But I can add this if required.

It will be needed.

> > Hm... can we try to do without the symlinks?
> 
> Well. I think it's difficult. Most of my hardware initialization such
> as clock init, SDRAM init etc need to know under what context it
> is getting executed. The context can be:
> 1. SPL
> 2. Regular U-Boot executing from NOR flash
> 3. Regular U-Boot executing from SDRAM
> etc.

Agreed - we need another, independent set of object files.  But cannot
we create these in the existent source tree?

> If you want to do away with symlinks, I would propose going with
> Daniel's approach. This uses /spl as a remote building directory, but
> do not create any symlinks.

Yes, this is an improvement over the current situation - but Ilya's
question is a good one: why do we need the pl/ subtree in the first
place?


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-27  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 172+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-16  8:08 [U-Boot] SPL framework re-design Aneesh V
2011-06-16 10:47 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-16 11:50   ` Aneesh V
2011-06-16 12:15     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-16 13:38       ` Aneesh V
2011-06-16 21:52         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-16 12:55   ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-06-16 13:10     ` Andreas Bießmann
2011-06-26 23:17       ` Ilya Yanok
2011-06-27  4:29         ` Aneesh V
2011-06-27  8:24           ` Ilya Yanok
2011-06-27  9:08             ` Aneesh V
2011-06-27  8:42           ` Simon Schwarz
2011-06-27  9:36           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-27 18:42             ` Scott Wood
2011-06-27 20:54               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-27  9:27         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-27 13:42           ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-06-27 20:48             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-27 18:34           ` Scott Wood
2011-06-27 20:50             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-27 20:55               ` Scott Wood
2011-06-27 21:10                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-27 21:18                   ` Scott Wood
2011-06-27 21:22                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-28  6:54                       ` Aneesh V
2011-06-28 16:18                         ` Scott Wood
2011-06-29  7:27                           ` Aneesh V
2011-06-16 13:57     ` Aneesh V
2011-06-16 14:27       ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-06-16 21:55       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-16 21:47     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-17 18:45       ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-06-17 18:51         ` Scott Wood
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 0/7] spl framework prototype Aneesh V
2011-07-01  5:20       ` Aneesh V
2011-07-05 16:26       ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 0/4] " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-05 16:26         ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 1/4] Adapt config.mk for usage in spl/Makefile Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-05 17:52           ` Mike Frysinger
2011-07-06  8:07           ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08  9:08           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 10:20             ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 11:19               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 11:40                 ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 12:37                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 11:34             ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-08 12:25               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 13:33                 ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 13:44                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 13:52                     ` Aneesh V
2011-07-05 16:26         ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 2/4] Use ALL-y style instead of ifeq blocks for better readability and upgradeability Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-05 17:53           ` Mike Frysinger
2011-07-08  9:12           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 10:28             ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 11:20               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-05 16:26         ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 3/4] Add new folder and build system for SPL Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-08  9:17           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 11:32             ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 12:32               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 12:51                 ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 13:04                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 13:28                     ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 13:41                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 13:50                         ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 11:57             ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-05 16:26         ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 4/4] Hook spl directory into main Makefile Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-08  9:18           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08  4:40         ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 0/4] spl framework prototype Aneesh V
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 1/7] Adapt config.mk for usage in spl/Makefile Aneesh V
2011-06-29 18:52       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-06-30  5:12         ` Aneesh V
2011-06-30 11:09           ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 2/7] Use ALL-y style instead of ifeq blocks for better readability and upgradeability Aneesh V
2011-06-29 18:54       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-06-30  5:14         ` Aneesh V
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 3/7] Add new folder and build system for SPL Aneesh V
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 4/7] Hook spl directory into main Makefile Aneesh V
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 5/7] armv7: adapt Makefile for spl building Aneesh V
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 6/7] omap: common spl support for OMAP3/4 Aneesh V
2011-06-30  6:01       ` Heiko Schocher
2011-06-30  6:12         ` Aneesh V
2011-06-30  7:08           ` Andreas Bießmann
2011-07-01  9:27             ` Aneesh V
2011-07-01  9:55               ` Andreas Bießmann
2011-07-01 11:48                 ` Aneesh V
2011-07-01 19:51                   ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-03  4:47                     ` Aneesh V
2011-07-03  6:56                       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-03  7:31                         ` Andreas Bießmann
2011-07-03  7:48                           ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-03  8:39                         ` Aneesh V
2011-06-30  7:53           ` Heiko Schocher
2011-06-30  8:21             ` Simon Schwarz
2011-06-30 10:05               ` Aneesh V
2011-06-30 11:09               ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-06-30 11:18                 ` Aneesh V
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 7/7] omap4: adapt Makefile for spl building Aneesh V
2011-06-17 16:48   ` [U-Boot] SPL framework re-design Aneesh V
2011-06-17 22:28     ` Scott Wood
2011-06-19 10:22       ` V, Aneesh
2011-06-20 16:19         ` Scott Wood
2011-06-21  3:22           ` Aneesh V
2011-06-21 10:59     ` Aneesh V
2011-06-25  8:06       ` Aneesh V
2011-06-25 12:10       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-25 16:11         ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-06-27  4:19         ` Aneesh V
2011-06-27  9:27           ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2011-06-27 14:56             ` Aneesh V
2011-06-27 20:49               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-16 16:45 ` Scott Wood
2011-06-16 22:09   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-16 22:22     ` Scott Wood
2011-06-17  7:02     ` Aneesh V
2011-06-17  7:00   ` Aneesh V
2011-06-28  0:55 ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-28  4:10   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-13 15:11 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 0/9] Prototype for generic SPL framework Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 1/9] Use ALL-y style instead of ifeq blocks for better readability Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 2/9] spl: add initial support for a generic SPL framework Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-15 16:22     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v2 " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-18 16:06       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:22         ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 3/9] Extend build-system for " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-14  5:37     ` Aneesh V
2011-07-14  9:45       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-14 10:02         ` Aneesh V
2011-07-15 16:24     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v2 " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 4/9] Hook SPL build-system into toplevel Makefile Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 5/9] arm: adjust PLATFORM_LIBS for SPL Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 6/9] scaled down version of generic libraries " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-15 12:31     ` Simon Schwarz
2011-07-15 12:41       ` Aneesh V
2011-07-15 13:10         ` Simon Schwarz
2011-07-15 13:35           ` Aneesh V
2011-07-15 14:43         ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 7/9] replace CONFIG_PRELOADER with CONFIG_SPL_BUILD Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 8/9] spl: Add support for common libraries and drivers Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 9/9] spl: add support for omap-common libraries Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:17   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 0/9] Prototype for generic SPL framework Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-14 20:06   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-14 20:25   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-15  7:57     ` Aneesh V
2011-07-15  8:35       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-15 15:02     ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-18 16:09   ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 0/9] Add initial support for a " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 1/9] Use ALL-y style instead of ifeq blocks for better readability Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-19  3:51       ` Vipin Kumar
2011-07-26 12:41       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 2/9] spl: add initial support for a generic SPL framework Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-18 17:48       ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:42         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 3/9] Extend build-system for " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:42       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 4/9] Hook SPL build-system into toplevel Makefile Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:43       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 5/9] arm: adjust PLATFORM_LIBS for SPL Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-19  9:21       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-19 10:38         ` Aneesh V
2011-07-19 11:03           ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-19 15:51       ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-20  7:59         ` Aneesh V
2011-07-26 12:44         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 6/9] scaled down version of generic libraries " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:44       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 7/9] replace CONFIG_PRELOADER with CONFIG_SPL_BUILD Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:45       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] spl: Add support for common libraries and drivers Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:45       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 9/9] spl: add support for omap-common libraries Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:45       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-20 21:12     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 0/9] Add initial support for a generic SPL framework Paulraj, Sandeep

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