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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] SPL framework re-design
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:42:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110627134205.021af180@schlenkerla.am.freescale.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110627093633.679C71A23C3F@gemini.denx.de>

On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:36:33 +0200
Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de> wrote:

> Dear Aneesh,
> 
> In message <4E080733.2030001@ti.com> you wrote:
> > 
> > > I wonder why do we need this whole spl thing in the first place (well,
> > > surely I know what they are used for but why do we need a separate entity
> > > for this)? Isn't it just the same U-Boot in, well, very special configuration
> > > (minimal set of drivers, no shell, etc)? Why do we need a whole shadow tree
> > > at spl/ instead of just providing the _configuration_?
> > >
> > > Am I missing something?
> > 
> > The reason is that the regular U-Boot is not configurable enough to
> > build the extremely small images that should fit in internal RAM. The
> > last time I attempted, I ended up getting an ~60KB image for
> > OMAP4(that too without any of the hardware initialization I am adding
> > in my SPL work).
> 
> This statement does not make much sense to me.  If we can do it in the
> spl/ directory, we should be able to do it in any other directory as
> well.  The worst to happen is that we have to keep two setsof object
> files separated, but chosing a different suffix should be sufficient.

We do it in the spl/ directory by bypassing the normal makefile
config system, specifying a board-and-spl-specific list of objects instead.

It could of course be done with the standard config system, but it will
require that every bit of code in U-Boot be enabled only with a particular
config option -- no "always on" code.  This would be a good thing anyway,
but it will take some work to do it cleanly.  A first step would probably
be a global "finegrained/small" flag that configs use to opt into the
new system, but eventually all bits of functionality should have
appropriate individual config symbols.

-Scott

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-27 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 172+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-16  8:08 [U-Boot] SPL framework re-design Aneesh V
2011-06-16 10:47 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-16 11:50   ` Aneesh V
2011-06-16 12:15     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-16 13:38       ` Aneesh V
2011-06-16 21:52         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-16 12:55   ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-06-16 13:10     ` Andreas Bießmann
2011-06-26 23:17       ` Ilya Yanok
2011-06-27  4:29         ` Aneesh V
2011-06-27  8:24           ` Ilya Yanok
2011-06-27  9:08             ` Aneesh V
2011-06-27  8:42           ` Simon Schwarz
2011-06-27  9:36           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-27 18:42             ` Scott Wood [this message]
2011-06-27 20:54               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-27  9:27         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-27 13:42           ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-06-27 20:48             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-27 18:34           ` Scott Wood
2011-06-27 20:50             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-27 20:55               ` Scott Wood
2011-06-27 21:10                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-27 21:18                   ` Scott Wood
2011-06-27 21:22                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-28  6:54                       ` Aneesh V
2011-06-28 16:18                         ` Scott Wood
2011-06-29  7:27                           ` Aneesh V
2011-06-16 13:57     ` Aneesh V
2011-06-16 14:27       ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-06-16 21:55       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-16 21:47     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-17 18:45       ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-06-17 18:51         ` Scott Wood
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 0/7] spl framework prototype Aneesh V
2011-07-01  5:20       ` Aneesh V
2011-07-05 16:26       ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 0/4] " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-05 16:26         ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 1/4] Adapt config.mk for usage in spl/Makefile Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-05 17:52           ` Mike Frysinger
2011-07-06  8:07           ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08  9:08           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 10:20             ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 11:19               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 11:40                 ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 12:37                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 11:34             ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-08 12:25               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 13:33                 ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 13:44                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 13:52                     ` Aneesh V
2011-07-05 16:26         ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 2/4] Use ALL-y style instead of ifeq blocks for better readability and upgradeability Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-05 17:53           ` Mike Frysinger
2011-07-08  9:12           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 10:28             ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 11:20               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-05 16:26         ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 3/4] Add new folder and build system for SPL Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-08  9:17           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 11:32             ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 12:32               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 12:51                 ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 13:04                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 13:28                     ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 13:41                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08 13:50                         ` Aneesh V
2011-07-08 11:57             ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-05 16:26         ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 4/4] Hook spl directory into main Makefile Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-08  9:18           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-08  4:40         ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 0/4] spl framework prototype Aneesh V
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 1/7] Adapt config.mk for usage in spl/Makefile Aneesh V
2011-06-29 18:52       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-06-30  5:12         ` Aneesh V
2011-06-30 11:09           ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 2/7] Use ALL-y style instead of ifeq blocks for better readability and upgradeability Aneesh V
2011-06-29 18:54       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-06-30  5:14         ` Aneesh V
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 3/7] Add new folder and build system for SPL Aneesh V
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 4/7] Hook spl directory into main Makefile Aneesh V
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 5/7] armv7: adapt Makefile for spl building Aneesh V
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 6/7] omap: common spl support for OMAP3/4 Aneesh V
2011-06-30  6:01       ` Heiko Schocher
2011-06-30  6:12         ` Aneesh V
2011-06-30  7:08           ` Andreas Bießmann
2011-07-01  9:27             ` Aneesh V
2011-07-01  9:55               ` Andreas Bießmann
2011-07-01 11:48                 ` Aneesh V
2011-07-01 19:51                   ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-03  4:47                     ` Aneesh V
2011-07-03  6:56                       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-03  7:31                         ` Andreas Bießmann
2011-07-03  7:48                           ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-03  8:39                         ` Aneesh V
2011-06-30  7:53           ` Heiko Schocher
2011-06-30  8:21             ` Simon Schwarz
2011-06-30 10:05               ` Aneesh V
2011-06-30 11:09               ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-06-30 11:18                 ` Aneesh V
2011-06-29 13:09     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 7/7] omap4: adapt Makefile for spl building Aneesh V
2011-06-17 16:48   ` [U-Boot] SPL framework re-design Aneesh V
2011-06-17 22:28     ` Scott Wood
2011-06-19 10:22       ` V, Aneesh
2011-06-20 16:19         ` Scott Wood
2011-06-21  3:22           ` Aneesh V
2011-06-21 10:59     ` Aneesh V
2011-06-25  8:06       ` Aneesh V
2011-06-25 12:10       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-25 16:11         ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-06-27  4:19         ` Aneesh V
2011-06-27  9:27           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-27 14:56             ` Aneesh V
2011-06-27 20:49               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-16 16:45 ` Scott Wood
2011-06-16 22:09   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-16 22:22     ` Scott Wood
2011-06-17  7:02     ` Aneesh V
2011-06-17  7:00   ` Aneesh V
2011-06-28  0:55 ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-28  4:10   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-13 15:11 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 0/9] Prototype for generic SPL framework Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 1/9] Use ALL-y style instead of ifeq blocks for better readability Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 2/9] spl: add initial support for a generic SPL framework Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-15 16:22     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v2 " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-18 16:06       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:22         ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 3/9] Extend build-system for " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-14  5:37     ` Aneesh V
2011-07-14  9:45       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-14 10:02         ` Aneesh V
2011-07-15 16:24     ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v2 " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 4/9] Hook SPL build-system into toplevel Makefile Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 5/9] arm: adjust PLATFORM_LIBS for SPL Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 6/9] scaled down version of generic libraries " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-15 12:31     ` Simon Schwarz
2011-07-15 12:41       ` Aneesh V
2011-07-15 13:10         ` Simon Schwarz
2011-07-15 13:35           ` Aneesh V
2011-07-15 14:43         ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 7/9] replace CONFIG_PRELOADER with CONFIG_SPL_BUILD Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 8/9] spl: Add support for common libraries and drivers Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:11   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 9/9] spl: add support for omap-common libraries Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-13 15:17   ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH v1 0/9] Prototype for generic SPL framework Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-14 20:06   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-14 20:25   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-15  7:57     ` Aneesh V
2011-07-15  8:35       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-15 15:02     ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-18 16:09   ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 0/9] Add initial support for a " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 1/9] Use ALL-y style instead of ifeq blocks for better readability Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-19  3:51       ` Vipin Kumar
2011-07-26 12:41       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 2/9] spl: add initial support for a generic SPL framework Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-18 17:48       ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:42         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 3/9] Extend build-system for " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:42       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 4/9] Hook SPL build-system into toplevel Makefile Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:43       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 5/9] arm: adjust PLATFORM_LIBS for SPL Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-19  9:21       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-19 10:38         ` Aneesh V
2011-07-19 11:03           ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-19 15:51       ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-20  7:59         ` Aneesh V
2011-07-26 12:44         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 6/9] scaled down version of generic libraries " Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:44       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 7/9] replace CONFIG_PRELOADER with CONFIG_SPL_BUILD Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:45       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] spl: Add support for common libraries and drivers Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:45       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-18 16:09     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 9/9] spl: add support for omap-common libraries Daniel Schwierzeck
2011-07-26 12:45       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-20 21:12     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 0/9] Add initial support for a generic SPL framework Paulraj, Sandeep

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