Re: Sound BoF in LinuxCon Europe?

Re: Sound BoF in LinuxCon Europe?

[Liam Girdwood]

On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 12:36 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> just wondering how about holding a sound-BoF in LinuxCon Europe in
> October?
> 
> I know ELCE will be held at the very same time, so it may need the
> adjustment of schedule.  But in general what do you think?
> 

I don't think I'll be at ELCE but Peter will be attending from TI.

> I know some guys will attend LPC in September, too.  If the topic is
> redundant again after one month, it's fine, no much need for that.
> OTOH, it's a conference in Europe, so people there may have more
> chance to attend (like me :-)
> 

Mark and I are looking at another ASoC/Audio workshop at LPC, to go over
progress and planning for the next development phase. Imo, this would
likely complement a BOF at LinuxCon since a good proportion of the BOF
audience will probably be different from LPC with different hardware,
requirements, users, etc. 

> An alternative is a workshop in KS2011 day 1, but I think KS suits
> better for more broader topics, e.g. the discussions on the media-
> notification support or the jack implementation like a thread in the
> last month.
> 

Regards

Liam

Re: Sound BoF in LinuxCon Europe?

[David Henningsson]

On 2011-07-08 12:36, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just wondering how about holding a sound-BoF in LinuxCon Europe in
> October?
>
> I know ELCE will be held at the very same time, so it may need the
> adjustment of schedule.  But in general what do you think?
>
> I know some guys will attend LPC in September, too.  If the topic is
> redundant again after one month, it's fine, no much need for that.
> OTOH, it's a conference in Europe, so people there may have more
> chance to attend (like me :-)
>
> An alternative is a workshop in KS2011 day 1, but I think KS suits
> better for more broader topics, e.g. the discussions on the media-
> notification support or the jack implementation like a thread in the
> last month.

I like the initiative and I'm all for having a sound BoF!

Unfortunately, the timing is bad. Ubuntu's biggest event, the Ubuntu 
Developer Summit, is in Florida 24-28 October and my attendance is 
required...

-- 
David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd.
http://launchpad.net/~diwic

Re: Sound BoF in LinuxCon Europe?

[Mark Brown]

On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 12:36:34PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> just wondering how about holding a sound-BoF in LinuxCon Europe in
> October?

> I know ELCE will be held at the very same time, so it may need the
> adjustment of schedule.  But in general what do you think?

I have no current plans to attend these conferences, I'm planning to go
to LPC instead.  Not sure if I'd be able to arrange it unless I get a KS
invite.

> An alternative is a workshop in KS2011 day 1, but I think KS suits
> better for more broader topics, e.g. the discussions on the media-
> notification support or the jack implementation like a thread in the
> last month.

Yes, I don't think it's good for covering at KS as it's far too
detailed.  If we're going to do something probably LinuxCon/ELC Europe
make most sense.

Re: Sound BoF in LinuxCon Europe?

[Mark Brown]

On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 09:43:32AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> Mark Brown wrote:

> > Yes, I don't think it's good for covering at KS as it's far too
> > detailed.  If we're going to do something probably LinuxCon/ELC Europe
> > make most sense.

> Well, KS day 1 is basically an open-day for workshops, AFAIK.
> (The days 2 and 3 are different.)
> So, it can be suitable for covering subsystem(s) specific problems.

> Though, I also think LinuxCon/ELC would be a better choice, too.

If nothing else we can always arrange something in the hallway/beer
tracks.

Re: Sound BoF in LinuxCon Europe?

[Lennart Poettering]

On Fri, 08.07.11 12:18, Liam Girdwood (lrg@ti.com) wrote:

> 
> On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 12:36 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > just wondering how about holding a sound-BoF in LinuxCon Europe in
> > October?
> > 
> > I know ELCE will be held at the very same time, so it may need the
> > adjustment of schedule.  But in general what do you think?

I'll be both in Prague and in Santa Rosa, and be happy to join you in
both occasions (even if I don't work on audio as much as I used to).

Lennart

-- 
Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc.

Re: Sound BoF in LinuxCon Europe?

[Takashi Iwai]

At Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:59:59 +0200,
Lennart Poettering wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 08.07.11 12:18, Liam Girdwood (lrg@ti.com) wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 12:36 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > just wondering how about holding a sound-BoF in LinuxCon Europe in
> > > October?
> > > 
> > > I know ELCE will be held at the very same time, so it may need the
> > > adjustment of schedule.  But in general what do you think?
> 
> I'll be both in Prague and in Santa Rosa, and be happy to join you in
> both occasions (even if I don't work on audio as much as I used to).

Thanks, good to know!


Takashi

Re: Sound BoF in LinuxCon Europe?

[David Henningsson]

On 2011-07-08 14:53, David Henningsson wrote:
> On 2011-07-08 12:36, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> just wondering how about holding a sound-BoF in LinuxCon Europe in
>> October?
>>
>> I know ELCE will be held at the very same time, so it may need the
>> adjustment of schedule. But in general what do you think?
>>
>> I know some guys will attend LPC in September, too. If the topic is
>> redundant again after one month, it's fine, no much need for that.
>> OTOH, it's a conference in Europe, so people there may have more
>> chance to attend (like me :-)
>>
>> An alternative is a workshop in KS2011 day 1, but I think KS suits
>> better for more broader topics, e.g. the discussions on the media-
>> notification support or the jack implementation like a thread in the
>> last month.
>
> I like the initiative and I'm all for having a sound BoF!
>
> Unfortunately, the timing is bad. Ubuntu's biggest event, the Ubuntu
> Developer Summit, is in Florida 24-28 October and my attendance is
> required...

Actually the UDS has suddenly moved to 31 October - 4 November instead, 
so it will likely be possible for me to attend LinuxCon should you have 
a sound BoF there. As it's time to start book tickets it would be good 
to know whether that'll be the case or not.

As a side note, I just saw an announcement that there will probably be a 
PulseAudio session at the desktop summit. [1] If that means a lot of 
audio people are going there, perhaps that could be an alternative 
location for the sound BoF as well? Takashi and others, will you be at 
the desktop summit?

-- 
David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd.
http://launchpad.net/~diwic

[1] http://wiki.desktopsummit.org/Workshops_%26_BoFs/2011/The_Audio_BoF

Re: Sound BoF in LinuxCon Europe?

[Lennart Poettering]

On Tue, 12.07.11 23:28, David Henningsson (david.henningsson@canonical.com) wrote:

> Actually the UDS has suddenly moved to 31 October - 4 November instead, 
> so it will likely be possible for me to attend LinuxCon should you have 
> a sound BoF there. As it's time to start book tickets it would be good 
> to know whether that'll be the case or not.
> 
> As a side note, I just saw an announcement that there will probably be a 
> PulseAudio session at the desktop summit. [1] If that means a lot of 
> audio people are going there, perhaps that could be an alternative 
> location for the sound BoF as well? Takashi and others, will you be at 
> the desktop summit?

Colin, Arun and I will be there at least.

Lennart

-- 
Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc.

Re: Sound BoF in LinuxCon Europe?

[Mark Brown]

On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 06:13:27PM +0900, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 09:43:32AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:

> > Well, KS day 1 is basically an open-day for workshops, AFAIK.
> > (The days 2 and 3 are different.)
> > So, it can be suitable for covering subsystem(s) specific problems.

> > Though, I also think LinuxCon/ELC would be a better choice, too.

> If nothing else we can always arrange something in the hallway/beer
> tracks.

It turns out I'll be there for the whole time now.

Re: Sound BoF in LinuxCon Europe?

[Takashi Iwai]

At Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:29:33 +0100,
Mark Brown wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 06:13:27PM +0900, Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 09:43:32AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> 
> > > Well, KS day 1 is basically an open-day for workshops, AFAIK.
> > > (The days 2 and 3 are different.)
> > > So, it can be suitable for covering subsystem(s) specific problems.
> 
> > > Though, I also think LinuxCon/ELC would be a better choice, too.
> 
> > If nothing else we can always arrange something in the hallway/beer
> > tracks.
> 
> It turns out I'll be there for the whole time now.

Great, we can meet up there, then.


Takashi

Re: Sound BoF in LinuxCon Europe?

[Mark Brown]

On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 04:46:09PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> Mark Brown wrote:

> > It turns out I'll be there for the whole time now.

> Great, we can meet up there, then.

Finally!  :)