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* [patch] mm: thp: disable defrag for page faults per default
@ 2011-07-25 20:38 ` Johannes Weiner
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Weiner @ 2011-07-25 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrea Arcangeli; +Cc: Mel Gorman, linux-mm, linux-kernel

With defrag mode enabled per default, huge page allocations pass
__GFP_WAIT and may drop compaction into sync-mode where they wait for
pages under writeback.

I observe applications hang for several minutes(!) when they fault in
huge pages and compaction starts to wait on in-"flight" USB stick IO.

This patch disables defrag mode for page fault allocations unless the
VMA is madvised explicitely.  Khugepaged will continue to allocate
with __GFP_WAIT per default, but stalls are not a problem of
application responsiveness there.

Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
---
 mm/huge_memory.c |    2 +-
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
index 81532f2..8c8ff29 100644
--- a/mm/huge_memory.c
+++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ unsigned long transparent_hugepage_flags __read_mostly =
 #ifdef CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_MADVISE
 	(1<<TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_REQ_MADV_FLAG)|
 #endif
-	(1<<TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_DEFRAG_FLAG)|
+	(1<<TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_DEFRAG_REQ_MADV_FLAG)|
 	(1<<TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_DEFRAG_KHUGEPAGED_FLAG);
 
 /* default scan 8*512 pte (or vmas) every 30 second */
-- 
1.7.6


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* [patch] mm: thp: disable defrag for page faults per default
@ 2011-07-25 20:38 ` Johannes Weiner
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Weiner @ 2011-07-25 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrea Arcangeli; +Cc: Mel Gorman, linux-mm, linux-kernel

With defrag mode enabled per default, huge page allocations pass
__GFP_WAIT and may drop compaction into sync-mode where they wait for
pages under writeback.

I observe applications hang for several minutes(!) when they fault in
huge pages and compaction starts to wait on in-"flight" USB stick IO.

This patch disables defrag mode for page fault allocations unless the
VMA is madvised explicitely.  Khugepaged will continue to allocate
with __GFP_WAIT per default, but stalls are not a problem of
application responsiveness there.

Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
---
 mm/huge_memory.c |    2 +-
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
index 81532f2..8c8ff29 100644
--- a/mm/huge_memory.c
+++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ unsigned long transparent_hugepage_flags __read_mostly =
 #ifdef CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_MADVISE
 	(1<<TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_REQ_MADV_FLAG)|
 #endif
-	(1<<TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_DEFRAG_FLAG)|
+	(1<<TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_DEFRAG_REQ_MADV_FLAG)|
 	(1<<TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_DEFRAG_KHUGEPAGED_FLAG);
 
 /* default scan 8*512 pte (or vmas) every 30 second */
-- 
1.7.6

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* Re: [patch] mm: thp: disable defrag for page faults per default
  2011-07-25 20:38 ` Johannes Weiner
@ 2011-07-25 21:01   ` Andrea Arcangeli
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2011-07-25 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Johannes Weiner; +Cc: Mel Gorman, linux-mm, linux-kernel

Hello Johannes,

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:38:41PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> With defrag mode enabled per default, huge page allocations pass
> __GFP_WAIT and may drop compaction into sync-mode where they wait for
> pages under writeback.
> 
> I observe applications hang for several minutes(!) when they fault in
> huge pages and compaction starts to wait on in-"flight" USB stick IO.
> 
> This patch disables defrag mode for page fault allocations unless the
> VMA is madvised explicitely.  Khugepaged will continue to allocate
> with __GFP_WAIT per default, but stalls are not a problem of
> application responsiveness there.

Allocating memory without __GFP_WAIT means THP it's like disabled
except when there's plenty of memory free after boot, even trying with
__GFP_WAIT and without compaction would be better than that. We don't
want to modify all apps, just a few special ones should have the
madvise like qemu-kvm for example (for embedded in case there's
embedded virt).

If you want to make compaction and migrate run without ever dropping
into sync-mode (or aborting if we've to wait on too many pages) I
think it'd be a whole lot better.

If you could show the SYSRQ+T during the minute wait it'd be
interesting too.

There was also some compaction bug that would lead to minutes of stall
in congestion_wait, those are fixed in current kernels.

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* Re: [patch] mm: thp: disable defrag for page faults per default
@ 2011-07-25 21:01   ` Andrea Arcangeli
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2011-07-25 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Johannes Weiner; +Cc: Mel Gorman, linux-mm, linux-kernel

Hello Johannes,

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:38:41PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> With defrag mode enabled per default, huge page allocations pass
> __GFP_WAIT and may drop compaction into sync-mode where they wait for
> pages under writeback.
> 
> I observe applications hang for several minutes(!) when they fault in
> huge pages and compaction starts to wait on in-"flight" USB stick IO.
> 
> This patch disables defrag mode for page fault allocations unless the
> VMA is madvised explicitely.  Khugepaged will continue to allocate
> with __GFP_WAIT per default, but stalls are not a problem of
> application responsiveness there.

Allocating memory without __GFP_WAIT means THP it's like disabled
except when there's plenty of memory free after boot, even trying with
__GFP_WAIT and without compaction would be better than that. We don't
want to modify all apps, just a few special ones should have the
madvise like qemu-kvm for example (for embedded in case there's
embedded virt).

If you want to make compaction and migrate run without ever dropping
into sync-mode (or aborting if we've to wait on too many pages) I
think it'd be a whole lot better.

If you could show the SYSRQ+T during the minute wait it'd be
interesting too.

There was also some compaction bug that would lead to minutes of stall
in congestion_wait, those are fixed in current kernels.

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* Re: [patch] mm: thp: disable defrag for page faults per default
  2011-07-25 21:01   ` Andrea Arcangeli
@ 2011-07-25 21:13     ` Johannes Weiner
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Weiner @ 2011-07-25 21:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrea Arcangeli; +Cc: Mel Gorman, linux-mm, linux-kernel

Hi Andrea,

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:01:48PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hello Johannes,
> 
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:38:41PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > With defrag mode enabled per default, huge page allocations pass
> > __GFP_WAIT and may drop compaction into sync-mode where they wait for
> > pages under writeback.
> > 
> > I observe applications hang for several minutes(!) when they fault in
> > huge pages and compaction starts to wait on in-"flight" USB stick IO.
> > 
> > This patch disables defrag mode for page fault allocations unless the
> > VMA is madvised explicitely.  Khugepaged will continue to allocate
> > with __GFP_WAIT per default, but stalls are not a problem of
> > application responsiveness there.
> 
> Allocating memory without __GFP_WAIT means THP it's like disabled
> except when there's plenty of memory free after boot, even trying with
> __GFP_WAIT and without compaction would be better than that. We don't
> want to modify all apps, just a few special ones should have the
> madvise like qemu-kvm for example (for embedded in case there's
> embedded virt).
> 
> If you want to make compaction and migrate run without ever dropping
> into sync-mode (or aborting if we've to wait on too many pages) I
> think it'd be a whole lot better.

Agreed, this makes more sense.

> If you could show the SYSRQ+T during the minute wait it'd be
> interesting too.

Sure thing.  It's firefox while I copy stuff to a USB stick.  In the
first one, it's just waiting for a page to finish writeback:

[171252.437688] firefox         D 000000010a31e6b7     0  8502   1110 0x00000000
[171252.437691]  ffff88001e91f8a8 0000000000000082 ffff880000000000 ffff88001e91ffd8
[171252.437693]  ffff88001e91ffd8 0000000000004000 ffffffff8180b020 ffff8800456e4680
[171252.437696]  ffff88001e91f7e8 ffffffff810cd4ed ffffea00028d4500 000000000000000e
[171252.437699] Call Trace:
[171252.437701]  [<ffffffff810cd4ed>] ? __pagevec_free+0x2d/0x40
[171252.437703]  [<ffffffff810d044c>] ? release_pages+0x24c/0x280
[171252.437705]  [<ffffffff81099448>] ? ktime_get_ts+0xa8/0xe0
[171252.437707]  [<ffffffff810c5040>] ? file_read_actor+0x170/0x170
[171252.437709]  [<ffffffff8156ac8a>] io_schedule+0x8a/0xd0
[171252.437711]  [<ffffffff810c5049>] sleep_on_page+0x9/0x10
[171252.437713]  [<ffffffff8156b0f7>] __wait_on_bit+0x57/0x80
[171252.437715]  [<ffffffff810c5630>] wait_on_page_bit+0x70/0x80
[171252.437718]  [<ffffffff810916c0>] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x40/0x40
[171252.437720]  [<ffffffff810f98a5>] migrate_pages+0x2a5/0x490
[171252.437722]  [<ffffffff810f5940>] ? suitable_migration_target+0x50/0x50
[171252.437724]  [<ffffffff810f6234>] compact_zone+0x4e4/0x770
[171252.437727]  [<ffffffff810f65e0>] compact_zone_order+0x80/0xb0
[171252.437729]  [<ffffffff810f66cd>] try_to_compact_pages+0xbd/0xf0
[171252.437731]  [<ffffffff810cc608>] __alloc_pages_direct_compact+0xa8/0x180
[171252.437734]  [<ffffffff810ccbdb>] __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x4fb/0x720
[171252.437736]  [<ffffffff810fbfe3>] do_huge_pmd_wp_page+0x4c3/0x740
[171252.437738]  [<ffffffff81094fff>] ? hrtimer_start_range_ns+0xf/0x20
[171252.437740]  [<ffffffff810e3f9c>] handle_mm_fault+0x1bc/0x2f0
[171252.437743]  [<ffffffff8102e6c6>] ? __switch_to+0x1e6/0x2c0
[171252.437745]  [<ffffffff810511b2>] do_page_fault+0x132/0x430
[171252.437747]  [<ffffffff810a4995>] ? sys_futex+0x105/0x1a0
[171252.437749]  [<ffffffff8156cf9f>] page_fault+0x1f/0x30

Here it is trying to do writeback itself and gets stuck on the clogged
request queue:

[1292004.173328] firefox         D 0000000000000000     0 30407   8429 0x00000080
[1292004.173328]  ffff880023e73598 0000000000000082 ffff880000000000 ffff880114a64590
[1292004.173328]  ffff880023e73fd8 ffff880023e73fd8 0000000000013840 0000000000013840
[1292004.173328]  ffff880117f29730 ffff880114a64590 ffff8800cfc940c8 0000000123e73600
[1292004.173328] Call Trace:
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8147439c>] io_schedule+0x47/0x62
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8121683f>] get_request_wait+0x10a/0x193
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8106f26e>] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x3d
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8121705c>] __make_request+0x2b4/0x400
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81111757>] ? kmem_cache_alloc+0x90/0x105
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81215928>] generic_make_request+0x2ae/0x328
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff810da079>] ? mempool_alloc_slab+0x15/0x17
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81215a80>] submit_bio+0xde/0xfd
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81148155>] ? bio_alloc_bioset+0x4c/0xc3
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff810ecb79>] ? inc_zone_page_state+0x27/0x29
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81143db7>] submit_bh+0xe6/0x105
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff811452f4>] __block_write_full_page+0x1e7/0x2d7
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff811496c4>] ? blkdev_get_block+0x0/0x69
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81146acf>] ? end_buffer_async_write+0x0/0x134
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81146acf>] ? end_buffer_async_write+0x0/0x134
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff811496c4>] ? blkdev_get_block+0x0/0x69
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff811469b9>] block_write_full_page_endio+0x8a/0x97
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff811469db>] block_write_full_page+0x15/0x17
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8114941c>] blkdev_writepage+0x18/0x1a
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8111534a>] move_to_new_page+0x10e/0x1a1
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81115732>] migrate_pages+0x246/0x38c
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8110b787>] ? compaction_alloc+0x0/0x2a3
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8110bf73>] compact_zone+0x3e7/0x5ca
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8110c2e5>] compact_zone_order+0x94/0x9f
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8110c381>] try_to_compact_pages+0x91/0xe3
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8146e867>] __alloc_pages_direct_compact+0xa7/0x16d
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff810df0e6>] __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x6ad/0x77f
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8110a321>] alloc_pages_vma+0xf5/0xfa
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81118e6c>] do_huge_pmd_anonymous_page+0xbf/0x261
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff810f13cf>] ? pmd_offset+0x19/0x3f
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff810f4750>] handle_mm_fault+0x113/0x1ce
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81478f30>] do_page_fault+0x358/0x37a
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff810f9e55>] ? do_mmap_pgoff+0x29f/0x2f9
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81129e21>] ? path_put+0x1f/0x23
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff814761d5>] page_fault+0x25/0x30

> There was also some compaction bug that would lead to minutes of stall
> in congestion_wait, those are fixed in current kernels.

I think that is a different issue, this happens on most recent
kernels, too.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [patch] mm: thp: disable defrag for page faults per default
@ 2011-07-25 21:13     ` Johannes Weiner
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Weiner @ 2011-07-25 21:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrea Arcangeli; +Cc: Mel Gorman, linux-mm, linux-kernel

Hi Andrea,

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:01:48PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hello Johannes,
> 
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:38:41PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > With defrag mode enabled per default, huge page allocations pass
> > __GFP_WAIT and may drop compaction into sync-mode where they wait for
> > pages under writeback.
> > 
> > I observe applications hang for several minutes(!) when they fault in
> > huge pages and compaction starts to wait on in-"flight" USB stick IO.
> > 
> > This patch disables defrag mode for page fault allocations unless the
> > VMA is madvised explicitely.  Khugepaged will continue to allocate
> > with __GFP_WAIT per default, but stalls are not a problem of
> > application responsiveness there.
> 
> Allocating memory without __GFP_WAIT means THP it's like disabled
> except when there's plenty of memory free after boot, even trying with
> __GFP_WAIT and without compaction would be better than that. We don't
> want to modify all apps, just a few special ones should have the
> madvise like qemu-kvm for example (for embedded in case there's
> embedded virt).
> 
> If you want to make compaction and migrate run without ever dropping
> into sync-mode (or aborting if we've to wait on too many pages) I
> think it'd be a whole lot better.

Agreed, this makes more sense.

> If you could show the SYSRQ+T during the minute wait it'd be
> interesting too.

Sure thing.  It's firefox while I copy stuff to a USB stick.  In the
first one, it's just waiting for a page to finish writeback:

[171252.437688] firefox         D 000000010a31e6b7     0  8502   1110 0x00000000
[171252.437691]  ffff88001e91f8a8 0000000000000082 ffff880000000000 ffff88001e91ffd8
[171252.437693]  ffff88001e91ffd8 0000000000004000 ffffffff8180b020 ffff8800456e4680
[171252.437696]  ffff88001e91f7e8 ffffffff810cd4ed ffffea00028d4500 000000000000000e
[171252.437699] Call Trace:
[171252.437701]  [<ffffffff810cd4ed>] ? __pagevec_free+0x2d/0x40
[171252.437703]  [<ffffffff810d044c>] ? release_pages+0x24c/0x280
[171252.437705]  [<ffffffff81099448>] ? ktime_get_ts+0xa8/0xe0
[171252.437707]  [<ffffffff810c5040>] ? file_read_actor+0x170/0x170
[171252.437709]  [<ffffffff8156ac8a>] io_schedule+0x8a/0xd0
[171252.437711]  [<ffffffff810c5049>] sleep_on_page+0x9/0x10
[171252.437713]  [<ffffffff8156b0f7>] __wait_on_bit+0x57/0x80
[171252.437715]  [<ffffffff810c5630>] wait_on_page_bit+0x70/0x80
[171252.437718]  [<ffffffff810916c0>] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x40/0x40
[171252.437720]  [<ffffffff810f98a5>] migrate_pages+0x2a5/0x490
[171252.437722]  [<ffffffff810f5940>] ? suitable_migration_target+0x50/0x50
[171252.437724]  [<ffffffff810f6234>] compact_zone+0x4e4/0x770
[171252.437727]  [<ffffffff810f65e0>] compact_zone_order+0x80/0xb0
[171252.437729]  [<ffffffff810f66cd>] try_to_compact_pages+0xbd/0xf0
[171252.437731]  [<ffffffff810cc608>] __alloc_pages_direct_compact+0xa8/0x180
[171252.437734]  [<ffffffff810ccbdb>] __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x4fb/0x720
[171252.437736]  [<ffffffff810fbfe3>] do_huge_pmd_wp_page+0x4c3/0x740
[171252.437738]  [<ffffffff81094fff>] ? hrtimer_start_range_ns+0xf/0x20
[171252.437740]  [<ffffffff810e3f9c>] handle_mm_fault+0x1bc/0x2f0
[171252.437743]  [<ffffffff8102e6c6>] ? __switch_to+0x1e6/0x2c0
[171252.437745]  [<ffffffff810511b2>] do_page_fault+0x132/0x430
[171252.437747]  [<ffffffff810a4995>] ? sys_futex+0x105/0x1a0
[171252.437749]  [<ffffffff8156cf9f>] page_fault+0x1f/0x30

Here it is trying to do writeback itself and gets stuck on the clogged
request queue:

[1292004.173328] firefox         D 0000000000000000     0 30407   8429 0x00000080
[1292004.173328]  ffff880023e73598 0000000000000082 ffff880000000000 ffff880114a64590
[1292004.173328]  ffff880023e73fd8 ffff880023e73fd8 0000000000013840 0000000000013840
[1292004.173328]  ffff880117f29730 ffff880114a64590 ffff8800cfc940c8 0000000123e73600
[1292004.173328] Call Trace:
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8147439c>] io_schedule+0x47/0x62
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8121683f>] get_request_wait+0x10a/0x193
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8106f26e>] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x3d
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8121705c>] __make_request+0x2b4/0x400
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81111757>] ? kmem_cache_alloc+0x90/0x105
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81215928>] generic_make_request+0x2ae/0x328
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff810da079>] ? mempool_alloc_slab+0x15/0x17
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81215a80>] submit_bio+0xde/0xfd
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81148155>] ? bio_alloc_bioset+0x4c/0xc3
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff810ecb79>] ? inc_zone_page_state+0x27/0x29
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81143db7>] submit_bh+0xe6/0x105
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff811452f4>] __block_write_full_page+0x1e7/0x2d7
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff811496c4>] ? blkdev_get_block+0x0/0x69
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81146acf>] ? end_buffer_async_write+0x0/0x134
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81146acf>] ? end_buffer_async_write+0x0/0x134
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff811496c4>] ? blkdev_get_block+0x0/0x69
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff811469b9>] block_write_full_page_endio+0x8a/0x97
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff811469db>] block_write_full_page+0x15/0x17
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8114941c>] blkdev_writepage+0x18/0x1a
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8111534a>] move_to_new_page+0x10e/0x1a1
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81115732>] migrate_pages+0x246/0x38c
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8110b787>] ? compaction_alloc+0x0/0x2a3
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8110bf73>] compact_zone+0x3e7/0x5ca
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8110c2e5>] compact_zone_order+0x94/0x9f
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8110c381>] try_to_compact_pages+0x91/0xe3
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8146e867>] __alloc_pages_direct_compact+0xa7/0x16d
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff810df0e6>] __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x6ad/0x77f
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff8110a321>] alloc_pages_vma+0xf5/0xfa
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81118e6c>] do_huge_pmd_anonymous_page+0xbf/0x261
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff810f13cf>] ? pmd_offset+0x19/0x3f
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff810f4750>] handle_mm_fault+0x113/0x1ce
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81478f30>] do_page_fault+0x358/0x37a
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff810f9e55>] ? do_mmap_pgoff+0x29f/0x2f9
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff81129e21>] ? path_put+0x1f/0x23
[1292004.173328]  [<ffffffff814761d5>] page_fault+0x25/0x30

> There was also some compaction bug that would lead to minutes of stall
> in congestion_wait, those are fixed in current kernels.

I think that is a different issue, this happens on most recent
kernels, too.

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* Re: [patch] mm: thp: disable defrag for page faults per default
  2011-07-25 20:38 ` Johannes Weiner
@ 2011-07-26  9:35   ` Mel Gorman
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Mel Gorman @ 2011-07-26  9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Johannes Weiner; +Cc: Andrea Arcangeli, linux-mm, linux-kernel

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:38:41PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> With defrag mode enabled per default, huge page allocations pass
> __GFP_WAIT and may drop compaction into sync-mode where they wait for
> pages under writeback.
> 
> I observe applications hang for several minutes(!) when they fault in
> huge pages and compaction starts to wait on in-"flight" USB stick IO.
> 
> This patch disables defrag mode for page fault allocations unless the
> VMA is madvised explicitely.  Khugepaged will continue to allocate
> with __GFP_WAIT per default, but stalls are not a problem of
> application responsiveness there.
> 

Seems drastic. You could just avoid sync migration for transparent
hugepage allocations with something like the patch below? There still
is a stall as some order-0 pages will be reclaimed before compaction
is tried again but it will nothing like a sync migration.

=== CUT HERE ===
diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
index 1fac154..40f2a9b 100644
--- a/mm/page_alloc.c
+++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
@@ -2174,7 +2174,14 @@ rebalance:
 					sync_migration);
 	if (page)
 		goto got_pg;
-	sync_migration = true;
+
+	/*
+	 * Do not use sync migration for transparent hugepage allocations as
+	 * it could stall writing back pages which is far worse than simply
+	 * failing to promote a page.
+	 */
+	if (!(gfp_mask & __GFP_NO_KSWAPD))
+		sync_migration = true;
 
 	/* Try direct reclaim and then allocating */
 	page = __alloc_pages_direct_reclaim(gfp_mask, order,
=== CUT HERE===

As this is USB, the rate of pages getting written back may mean that
too much clean memory is reclaimed in direct reclaim while compaction
still fails due to dirty pages. If this is the case, it can be mitigated
with something like this before calling direct reclaim;

if ((gfp_mask & __GFP_NO_KSWAPD) && compaction_deferred(preferred_zone))
	goto nopage;

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

^ permalink raw reply related	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [patch] mm: thp: disable defrag for page faults per default
@ 2011-07-26  9:35   ` Mel Gorman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Mel Gorman @ 2011-07-26  9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Johannes Weiner; +Cc: Andrea Arcangeli, linux-mm, linux-kernel

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:38:41PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> With defrag mode enabled per default, huge page allocations pass
> __GFP_WAIT and may drop compaction into sync-mode where they wait for
> pages under writeback.
> 
> I observe applications hang for several minutes(!) when they fault in
> huge pages and compaction starts to wait on in-"flight" USB stick IO.
> 
> This patch disables defrag mode for page fault allocations unless the
> VMA is madvised explicitely.  Khugepaged will continue to allocate
> with __GFP_WAIT per default, but stalls are not a problem of
> application responsiveness there.
> 

Seems drastic. You could just avoid sync migration for transparent
hugepage allocations with something like the patch below? There still
is a stall as some order-0 pages will be reclaimed before compaction
is tried again but it will nothing like a sync migration.

=== CUT HERE ===
diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
index 1fac154..40f2a9b 100644
--- a/mm/page_alloc.c
+++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
@@ -2174,7 +2174,14 @@ rebalance:
 					sync_migration);
 	if (page)
 		goto got_pg;
-	sync_migration = true;
+
+	/*
+	 * Do not use sync migration for transparent hugepage allocations as
+	 * it could stall writing back pages which is far worse than simply
+	 * failing to promote a page.
+	 */
+	if (!(gfp_mask & __GFP_NO_KSWAPD))
+		sync_migration = true;
 
 	/* Try direct reclaim and then allocating */
 	page = __alloc_pages_direct_reclaim(gfp_mask, order,
=== CUT HERE===

As this is USB, the rate of pages getting written back may mean that
too much clean memory is reclaimed in direct reclaim while compaction
still fails due to dirty pages. If this is the case, it can be mitigated
with something like this before calling direct reclaim;

if ((gfp_mask & __GFP_NO_KSWAPD) && compaction_deferred(preferred_zone))
	goto nopage;

-- 
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SUSE Labs

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* Re: [patch] mm: thp: disable defrag for page faults per default
  2011-07-26  9:35   ` Mel Gorman
@ 2011-08-04  7:47     ` Johannes Weiner
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Weiner @ 2011-08-04  7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mel Gorman; +Cc: Andrea Arcangeli, linux-mm, linux-kernel

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:35:17AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:38:41PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > With defrag mode enabled per default, huge page allocations pass
> > __GFP_WAIT and may drop compaction into sync-mode where they wait for
> > pages under writeback.
> > 
> > I observe applications hang for several minutes(!) when they fault in
> > huge pages and compaction starts to wait on in-"flight" USB stick IO.
> > 
> > This patch disables defrag mode for page fault allocations unless the
> > VMA is madvised explicitely.  Khugepaged will continue to allocate
> > with __GFP_WAIT per default, but stalls are not a problem of
> > application responsiveness there.
> > 
> 
> Seems drastic. You could just avoid sync migration for transparent
> hugepage allocations with something like the patch below? There still
> is a stall as some order-0 pages will be reclaimed before compaction
> is tried again but it will nothing like a sync migration.
> 
> === CUT HERE ===
> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> index 1fac154..40f2a9b 100644
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> @@ -2174,7 +2174,14 @@ rebalance:
>  					sync_migration);
>  	if (page)
>  		goto got_pg;
> -	sync_migration = true;
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * Do not use sync migration for transparent hugepage allocations as
> +	 * it could stall writing back pages which is far worse than simply
> +	 * failing to promote a page.
> +	 */
> +	if (!(gfp_mask & __GFP_NO_KSWAPD))
> +		sync_migration = true;

For khugepaged it probably makes sense to enter sync migration.  But
it's less important and could be fixed with an extra GFP flag later,
maybe?

> As this is USB, the rate of pages getting written back may mean that
> too much clean memory is reclaimed in direct reclaim while compaction
> still fails due to dirty pages. If this is the case, it can be mitigated
> with something like this before calling direct reclaim;
> 
> if ((gfp_mask & __GFP_NO_KSWAPD) && compaction_deferred(preferred_zone))
> 	goto nopage;

Ah, that looks sensible.

Thanks, I'll add those hunks to my tree and see how they improve
behaviour and keep an eye on the THP statistics.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [patch] mm: thp: disable defrag for page faults per default
@ 2011-08-04  7:47     ` Johannes Weiner
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Weiner @ 2011-08-04  7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mel Gorman; +Cc: Andrea Arcangeli, linux-mm, linux-kernel

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:35:17AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:38:41PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > With defrag mode enabled per default, huge page allocations pass
> > __GFP_WAIT and may drop compaction into sync-mode where they wait for
> > pages under writeback.
> > 
> > I observe applications hang for several minutes(!) when they fault in
> > huge pages and compaction starts to wait on in-"flight" USB stick IO.
> > 
> > This patch disables defrag mode for page fault allocations unless the
> > VMA is madvised explicitely.  Khugepaged will continue to allocate
> > with __GFP_WAIT per default, but stalls are not a problem of
> > application responsiveness there.
> > 
> 
> Seems drastic. You could just avoid sync migration for transparent
> hugepage allocations with something like the patch below? There still
> is a stall as some order-0 pages will be reclaimed before compaction
> is tried again but it will nothing like a sync migration.
> 
> === CUT HERE ===
> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> index 1fac154..40f2a9b 100644
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> @@ -2174,7 +2174,14 @@ rebalance:
>  					sync_migration);
>  	if (page)
>  		goto got_pg;
> -	sync_migration = true;
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * Do not use sync migration for transparent hugepage allocations as
> +	 * it could stall writing back pages which is far worse than simply
> +	 * failing to promote a page.
> +	 */
> +	if (!(gfp_mask & __GFP_NO_KSWAPD))
> +		sync_migration = true;

For khugepaged it probably makes sense to enter sync migration.  But
it's less important and could be fixed with an extra GFP flag later,
maybe?

> As this is USB, the rate of pages getting written back may mean that
> too much clean memory is reclaimed in direct reclaim while compaction
> still fails due to dirty pages. If this is the case, it can be mitigated
> with something like this before calling direct reclaim;
> 
> if ((gfp_mask & __GFP_NO_KSWAPD) && compaction_deferred(preferred_zone))
> 	goto nopage;

Ah, that looks sensible.

Thanks, I'll add those hunks to my tree and see how they improve
behaviour and keep an eye on the THP statistics.

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