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From: Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@googlemail.com>
To: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
Cc: Zefir Kurtisi <zefir.kurtisi@neratec.com>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <rodrigue@qca.qualcomm.com>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org,
	kgiori@qca.qualcomm.com, nbd@openwrt.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 5/6] ath9k: enable DFS pulse detection
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 17:26:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201110041726.40722.chunkeey@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-VmomWYUtd84APvEg7mKC-sevT3UVaX2qKBn3KiVriPZybgQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday, October 04, 2011 04:50:42 PM Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Also whilst I'm at it, "SPECTRUM_MANAGEMENT" is a very broad flag to set.

Hm, 802.11-2007 5.4.4 "Spectrum management services" explicitly
mentions that both services TPC and DFS are required in some
regulatory domains for operation in the 5 GHz band.

> For example: you may not want to do DFS on the AR5416 NICs because
> (as documented in the open hal and earlier ath9k bits) there isn't
> support for radar pulses on the ext channel. So even if you had a
> successful DFS algorithm for this NIC, you'd have to somehow tell
> the DFS machinery that HT40+DFS channels aren't supported but
> HT20+DFS channels are.
well, that's a pity. We do have seperated HT feature sets for each
band but they are not seperated by operation mode...

[ Just for fun: Do you know how the AR5418 handled radars in
the proprietary turbo mode in the 5 GHz band? And how does
Atheros own driver/stack/etc. deals with this limitation?
After all Unex sold/sells the DNBA-81 on their product page
as: <http://www.unex.com.tw/product/dnba-81>

"DNBA-81 is a 802.11n 2x3 2-stream a/b/g dual band wifi
Cardbus designed specifically for laptops and *access points*/
home gateways/consumer electronics/multimedia entertainment
devices/peripherals with standard Cardbus slot." ]

Regards,
	Chr

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@googlemail.com>
To: ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org
Subject: [ath9k-devel] [RFC 5/6] ath9k: enable DFS pulse detection
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 17:26:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201110041726.40722.chunkeey@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-VmomWYUtd84APvEg7mKC-sevT3UVaX2qKBn3KiVriPZybgQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday, October 04, 2011 04:50:42 PM Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Also whilst I'm at it, "SPECTRUM_MANAGEMENT" is a very broad flag to set.

Hm, 802.11-2007 5.4.4 "Spectrum management services" explicitly
mentions that both services TPC and DFS are required in some
regulatory domains for operation in the 5 GHz band.

> For example: you may not want to do DFS on the AR5416 NICs because
> (as documented in the open hal and earlier ath9k bits) there isn't
> support for radar pulses on the ext channel. So even if you had a
> successful DFS algorithm for this NIC, you'd have to somehow tell
> the DFS machinery that HT40+DFS channels aren't supported but
> HT20+DFS channels are.
well, that's a pity. We do have seperated HT feature sets for each
band but they are not seperated by operation mode...

[ Just for fun: Do you know how the AR5418 handled radars in
the proprietary turbo mode in the 5 GHz band? And how does
Atheros own driver/stack/etc. deals with this limitation?
After all Unex sold/sells the DNBA-81 on their product page
as: <http://www.unex.com.tw/product/dnba-81>

"DNBA-81 is a 802.11n 2x3 2-stream a/b/g dual band wifi
Cardbus designed specifically for laptops and *access points*/
home gateways/consumer electronics/multimedia entertainment
devices/peripherals with standard Cardbus slot." ]

Regards,
	Chr

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-04 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-03 10:29 [RFC 0/6] ath9k: DFS pattern detection Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 10:29 ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 10:29 ` [RFC 1/6] ath9k: add DFS statistics to debugfs Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 10:29   ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 18:14   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-03 18:14     ` [ath9k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-04  8:27     ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-04  8:27       ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 10:29 ` [RFC 2/6] ath9k: add DFS debug flag Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 10:29   ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 18:15   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-03 18:15     ` [ath9k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-04  8:31     ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-04  8:31       ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-04  9:40       ` Mohammed Shafi
2011-10-04  9:40         ` [ath9k-devel] " Mohammed Shafi
2011-10-03 10:29 ` [RFC 3/6] ath9k: initial radar pulse detection for DFS Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 10:29   ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 11:57   ` Adrian Chadd
2011-10-03 11:57     ` [ath9k-devel] " Adrian Chadd
2011-10-03 12:23     ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 12:23       ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 12:43       ` Adrian Chadd
2011-10-03 12:43         ` [ath9k-devel] " Adrian Chadd
2011-10-03 14:21         ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 14:21           ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 14:23           ` Adrian Chadd
2011-10-03 14:23             ` [ath9k-devel] " Adrian Chadd
2011-10-03 10:29 ` [RFC 4/6] ath9k: add DFS build parameter Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 10:29   ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 18:26   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-03 18:26     ` [ath9k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-04  9:55     ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-04  9:55       ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-04 10:37       ` Felix Fietkau
2011-10-04 10:37         ` [ath9k-devel] " Felix Fietkau
2011-10-04 12:25         ` Adrian Chadd
2011-10-04 12:25           ` [ath9k-devel] " Adrian Chadd
2011-10-05 22:20         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-05 22:20           ` [ath9k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-03 10:29 ` [RFC 5/6] ath9k: enable DFS pulse detection Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 10:29   ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 18:27   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-03 18:27     ` [ath9k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-03 19:24     ` Christian Lamparter
2011-10-03 19:24       ` [ath9k-devel] " Christian Lamparter
2011-10-03 19:31       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-03 19:31         ` [ath9k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-04 13:38         ` Christian Lamparter
2011-10-04 13:38           ` [ath9k-devel] " Christian Lamparter
2011-10-04 14:17           ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-04 14:17             ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-04 14:34             ` Adrian Chadd
2011-10-04 14:34               ` [ath9k-devel] " Adrian Chadd
2011-10-05 22:31               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-05 22:31                 ` [ath9k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-05 22:53                 ` Peter Stuge
2011-10-05 23:02                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-04 14:42             ` Christian Lamparter
2011-10-04 14:42               ` [ath9k-devel] " Christian Lamparter
2011-10-04 14:50               ` Adrian Chadd
2011-10-04 14:50                 ` [ath9k-devel] " Adrian Chadd
2011-10-04 15:26                 ` Christian Lamparter [this message]
2011-10-04 15:26                   ` Christian Lamparter
2011-10-04 15:57                   ` Adrian Chadd
2011-10-04 15:57                     ` [ath9k-devel] " Adrian Chadd
2011-10-04 16:42                     ` Christian Lamparter
2011-10-04 16:42                       ` [ath9k-devel] " Christian Lamparter
2011-10-04 17:03                       ` Adrian Chadd
2011-10-04 17:03                         ` [ath9k-devel] " Adrian Chadd
2011-10-04 17:49                         ` Christian Lamparter
2011-10-04 17:49                           ` [ath9k-devel] " Christian Lamparter
2011-10-05 22:37                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-05 22:37                   ` [ath9k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-04 16:26               ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-04 16:26                 ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-05 22:30             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-05 22:30               ` [ath9k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-05 22:27           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-05 22:27             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-06 16:49             ` Christian Lamparter
2011-10-06 16:49               ` Christian Lamparter
2011-10-06 18:36               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-06 18:36                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-06 18:41                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-06 18:41                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-06 20:32                 ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-06 20:32                   ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-06 20:41                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-06 20:41                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-06 21:08                     ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-06 21:08                       ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-06 21:12                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-06 21:12                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-07  3:06                       ` Adrian Chadd
2011-10-07  3:06                         ` Adrian Chadd
2011-10-07  7:54                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-07  7:54                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-07  8:48                         ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-07  8:48                           ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-07 11:43                           ` Adrian Chadd
2011-10-07 11:43                             ` Adrian Chadd
2011-10-04 10:11     ` Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-04 10:11       ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-05 22:23       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-05 22:23         ` [ath9k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-03 10:29 ` [RFC 6/6] ath9k: handle pulse data reported by DFS HW Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 10:29   ` [ath9k-devel] " Zefir Kurtisi
2011-10-03 18:30   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2011-10-03 18:30     ` [ath9k-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez

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