* Compiling FBB
@ 2011-10-11 8:18 f6bvp
2011-10-14 22:10 ` Miroslav Skoric
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From: f6bvp @ 2011-10-11 8:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Miroslav Skoric, linux-hams; +Cc: f6bvp
*Hello Miroslav,
It looks like you did not install AX.25 libraries (libax25) before
installing FBB.
Look at the following link :
http://code.google.com/p/linuxax25/
73 de Bernard, f6bvp
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-10-11 8:18 Compiling FBB f6bvp
@ 2011-10-14 22:10 ` Miroslav Skoric
2011-10-14 22:20 ` Dave Platt
2011-10-15 7:55 ` Bernard, f6bvp
0 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Miroslav Skoric @ 2011-10-14 22:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: f6bvp; +Cc: linux-hams
On 10/11/2011 10:18 AM, f6bvp wrote:
> *Hello Miroslav,
>
> It looks like you did not install AX.25 libraries (libax25) before
> installing FBB.
> Look at the following link :
>
> http://code.google.com/p/linuxax25/
>
> 73 de Bernard, f6bvp
>
Hi Bernard,
I already had libax25 (as well as ax25-apps and ax25-tools) before
trying to compile FBB. Btw, in respect to repositories of Ubuntu and
Debian communities, I installed the version they both provided: libax25
0.0.11-6.1)
However, I checked the link above, but not sure what their versions
might help me in regard to the FBB compiling issue. In fact, I would
like to keep the existing ax25 stuff, provided they bring basic
functionality (for example, I managed to activate a few Linux nodes in
Ubuntu and Debian, and now I am in the process of configuring them to
interact with Win/BPQ32 nodes in the mixed Lin/Win dual-boot environment.)
What else could I eventually try to install/reinstall?
Misko, YT7MPB
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-10-14 22:10 ` Miroslav Skoric
@ 2011-10-14 22:20 ` Dave Platt
2011-10-15 7:55 ` Bernard, f6bvp
1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Dave Platt @ 2011-10-14 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Miroslav Skoric; +Cc: linux-hams
> I already had libax25 (as well as ax25-apps and ax25-tools) before
> trying to compile FBB. Btw, in respect to repositories of Ubuntu and
> Debian communities, I installed the version they both provided: libax25
> 0.0.11-6.1)
Debian and Ubuntu (and I suspect most other Linux distros) split these
and most libraries into two parts: the runtime portion, and the
development portion.
You need to have both installed, in order to compile and build
anything which uses the library. You only need the runtime portion
to run programs that someone else has built.
On Debian, for example, the "libax25" package has the runtime,
and "libax25-dev" has the development portions.
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-10-14 22:10 ` Miroslav Skoric
2011-10-14 22:20 ` Dave Platt
@ 2011-10-15 7:55 ` Bernard, f6bvp
2011-10-15 10:00 ` Marc Coevoet
2011-10-21 4:02 ` Compiling FBB David Ranch
1 sibling, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Bernard, f6bvp @ 2011-10-15 7:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Miroslav Skoric; +Cc: linux-hams, Lee Woldanski
Hello Miroslav,
I now understand the libax25 issue.
Debian and alike libax25 packages are installing AX.25 libraries into
/usr/lib/ whereas by default xfbb link process is expecting libax25.* in
/usr/local/lib directory.
You will certainly know how to edit Makefile in order to tell it where
to find the libraries.
I must say that for many reasons I do prefere to get all hamradio
applications and libraries in /usr/local subdirectories.
This is more convenient for backups and file search.
Last remark : there have been some updates and bug removals in the
"unofficial" libax25, tools and apps that I gave you as compared to the
"old one" you are using (libax25 > 0.0.11-6.1).
This is the result of an intensive work performed by Lee VE7FET with
FPAC development team. The site I gave you the address has Debian /
Ubuntu compatible packages. You should consider using them. This will
not break anything in your application but rather remove some failure
causes.
73 de Bernard, f6bvp
Le 15/10/2011 00:10, Miroslav Skoric a écrit :
> On 10/11/2011 10:18 AM, f6bvp wrote:
>> *Hello Miroslav,
>>
>> It looks like you did not install AX.25 libraries (libax25) before
>> installing FBB.
>> Look at the following link :
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/linuxax25/
>>
>> 73 de Bernard, f6bvp
>>
>
> Hi Bernard,
>
> I already had libax25 (as well as ax25-apps and ax25-tools) before
> trying to compile FBB. Btw, in respect to repositories of Ubuntu and
> Debian communities, I installed the version they both provided: libax25
> 0.0.11-6.1)
>
> However, I checked the link above, but not sure what their versions
> might help me in regard to the FBB compiling issue. In fact, I would
> like to keep the existing ax25 stuff, provided they bring basic
> functionality (for example, I managed to activate a few Linux nodes in
> Ubuntu and Debian, and now I am in the process of configuring them to
> interact with Win/BPQ32 nodes in the mixed Lin/Win dual-boot environment.)
>
> What else could I eventually try to install/reinstall?
>
> Misko, YT7MPB
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-10-15 7:55 ` Bernard, f6bvp
@ 2011-10-15 10:00 ` Marc Coevoet
2011-10-17 11:25 ` Bernard, f6bvp
2011-10-18 20:07 ` RS232-USB conversion (was: Compiling FBB) Miroslav Skoric
2011-10-21 4:02 ` Compiling FBB David Ranch
1 sibling, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Marc Coevoet @ 2011-10-15 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bernard, f6bvp; +Cc: Miroslav Skoric, linux-hams, Lee Woldanski
Op 15-10-11 09:55, Bernard, f6bvp schreef:
> Hello Miroslav,
>
> I now understand the libax25 issue.
> Debian and alike libax25 packages are installing AX.25 libraries into
> /usr/lib/ whereas by default xfbb link process is expecting libax25.*
> in /usr/local/lib directory.
>
No, the link libs are known when compiled (even when different distros
use different hierarchies). Everything can be configured in an option
of "configure".
see here for some options: (you can build for ARM(tablets) eg in the
/usr/armlib etc)
sh configure -help
`configure' configures this package to adapt to many kinds of systems.
Usage: configure [OPTION]... [VAR=VALUE]...
To assign environment variables (e.g., CC, CFLAGS...), specify them as
VAR=VALUE. See below for descriptions of some of the useful variables.
Defaults for the options are specified in brackets.
Configuration:
-h, --help display this help and exit
--help=short display options specific to this package
--help=recursive display the short help of all the included
packages
-V, --version display version information and exit
-q, --quiet, --silent do not print `checking ...' messages
--cache-file=FILE cache test results in FILE [disabled]
-C, --config-cache alias for `--cache-file=config.cache'
-n, --no-create do not create output files
--srcdir=DIR find the sources in DIR [configure dir or `..']
Installation directories:
--prefix=PREFIX install architecture-independent files in PREFIX
[/usr/local]
--exec-prefix=EPREFIX install architecture-dependent files in EPREFIX
[PREFIX]
By default, `make install' will install all the files in
`/usr/local/bin', `/usr/local/lib' etc. You can specify
an installation prefix other than `/usr/local' using `--prefix',
for instance `--prefix=$HOME'.
For better control, use the options below.
Fine tuning of the installation directories:
--bindir=DIR user executables [EPREFIX/bin]
--sbindir=DIR system admin executables [EPREFIX/sbin]
--libexecdir=DIR program executables [EPREFIX/libexec]
--sysconfdir=DIR read-only single-machine data [PREFIX/etc]
--sharedstatedir=DIR modifiable architecture-independent data
[PREFIX/com]
--localstatedir=DIR modifiable single-machine data [PREFIX/var]
--libdir=DIR object code libraries [EPREFIX/lib]
--includedir=DIR C header files [PREFIX/include]
--oldincludedir=DIR C header files for non-gcc [/usr/include]
--datarootdir=DIR read-only arch.-independent data root
[PREFIX/share]
--datadir=DIR read-only architecture-independent data
[DATAROOTDIR]
--infodir=DIR info documentation [DATAROOTDIR/info]
--localedir=DIR locale-dependent data [DATAROOTDIR/locale]
--mandir=DIR man documentation [DATAROOTDIR/man]
--docdir=DIR documentation root [DATAROOTDIR/doc/PACKAGE]
--htmldir=DIR html documentation [DOCDIR]
--dvidir=DIR dvi documentation [DOCDIR]
--pdfdir=DIR pdf documentation [DOCDIR]
--psdir=DIR ps documentation [DOCDIR]
Program names:
--program-prefix=PREFIX prepend PREFIX to installed
program names
--program-suffix=SUFFIX append SUFFIX to installed program
names
--program-transform-name=PROGRAM run sed PROGRAM on installed
program names
System types:
--build=BUILD configure for building on BUILD [guessed]
--host=HOST cross-compile to build programs to run on HOST [BUILD]
Optional Features:
--disable-option-checking ignore unrecognized --enable/--with options
--disable-FEATURE do not include FEATURE (same as
--enable-FEATURE=no)
--enable-FEATURE[=ARG] include FEATURE [ARG=yes]
--enable-maintainer-mode enable make rules and dependencies not useful
(and sometimes confusing) to the casual installer
--disable-dependency-tracking speeds up one-time build
--enable-dependency-tracking do not reject slow dependency extractors
--disable-nls do not use Native Language Support
--enable-threads={posix|solaris|pth|win32}
specify multithreading API
--disable-threads build without multithread safety
--disable-rpath do not hardcode runtime library paths
--disable-osmupload Disable code to do osm uploads
--disable-gtktest do not try to compile and run a test GTK+ program
--disable-gtktest Do not try to compile and run a test GTK program
Optional Packages:
--with-PACKAGE[=ARG] use PACKAGE [ARG=yes]
--without-PACKAGE do not use PACKAGE (same as --with-PACKAGE=no)
--with-gnu-ld assume the C compiler uses GNU ld default=no
--with-libpth-prefix[=DIR] search for libpth in DIR/include and DIR/lib
--without-libpth-prefix don't search for libpth in includedir and
libdir
--with-libiconv-prefix[=DIR] search for libiconv in DIR/include and
DIR/lib
--without-libiconv-prefix don't search for libiconv in includedir
and libdir
--with-included-gettext use the GNU gettext library included here
--with-libintl-prefix[=DIR] search for libintl in DIR/include and
DIR/lib
--without-libintl-prefix don't search for libintl in includedir
and libdir
--with-oldgtk Use gtk1.x
--with-gtk-prefix=PFX Prefix where GTK is installed (optional)
--with-gtk-exec-prefix=PFX Exec prefix where GTK is installed (optional)
Some influential environment variables:
CC C compiler command
CFLAGS C compiler flags
LDFLAGS linker flags, e.g. -L<lib dir> if you have libraries in a
nonstandard directory <lib dir>
LIBS libraries to pass to the linker, e.g. -l<library>
CPPFLAGS (Objective) C/C++ preprocessor flags, e.g. -I<include dir> if
you have headers in a nonstandard directory <include dir>
CPP C preprocessor
YACC The `Yet Another C Compiler' implementation to use.
Defaults to
the first program found out of: `bison -y', `byacc', `yacc'.
YFLAGS The list of arguments that will be passed by default to
$YACC.
This script will default YFLAGS to the empty string to
avoid a
default value of `-d' given by some make applications.
PKG_CONFIG path to pkg-config utility
PKG_CONFIG_PATH
directories to add to pkg-config's search path
PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR
path overriding pkg-config's built-in search path
LIBXML2_CFLAGS
C compiler flags for LIBXML2, overriding pkg-config
LIBXML2_LIBS
linker flags for LIBXML2, overriding pkg-config
LIBCURL_CFLAGS
C compiler flags for LIBCURL, overriding pkg-config
LIBCURL_LIBS
linker flags for LIBCURL, overriding pkg-config
Use these variables to override the choices made by `configure' or to help
it to find libraries and programs with nonstandard names/locations.
Marc
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-10-15 10:00 ` Marc Coevoet
@ 2011-10-17 11:25 ` Bernard, f6bvp
2011-10-18 20:07 ` RS232-USB conversion (was: Compiling FBB) Miroslav Skoric
1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Bernard, f6bvp @ 2011-10-17 11:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: marcc; +Cc: Miroslav Skoric, linux-hams, Lee Woldanski
Hello Marc,
Yes I know that ./configure options allow choosing directories for
compile, install, libs etc..
That is why I was talking about default libax25 install options.
In that case, the sequence "./configure, make make install" used by
general users, leads to an install of most applications into /usr/local/...
I was deploring that this was not the default Debian (Ubuntu) choice for
AX.25.
73 de Bernard, f6bvp
Le 15/10/2011 12:00, Marc Coevoet a écrit :
> Op 15-10-11 09:55, Bernard, f6bvp schreef:
>> Hello Miroslav,
>>
>> I now understand the libax25 issue.
>> Debian and alike libax25 packages are installing AX.25 libraries into
>> /usr/lib/ whereas by default xfbb link process is expecting libax25.*
>> in /usr/local/lib directory.
>>
>
> No, the link libs are known when compiled (even when different distros
> use different hierarchies). Everything can be configured in an option of
> "configure".
>
>
> see here for some options: (you can build for ARM(tablets) eg in the
> /usr/armlib etc)
>
> sh configure -help
> `configure' configures this package to adapt to many kinds of systems.
>
> Usage: configure [OPTION]... [VAR=VALUE]...
>
> To assign environment variables (e.g., CC, CFLAGS...), specify them as
> VAR=VALUE. See below for descriptions of some of the useful variables.
>
> Defaults for the options are specified in brackets.
>
> Configuration:
> -h, --help display this help and exit
> --help=short display options specific to this package
> --help=recursive display the short help of all the included packages
> -V, --version display version information and exit
> -q, --quiet, --silent do not print `checking ...' messages
> --cache-file=FILE cache test results in FILE [disabled]
> -C, --config-cache alias for `--cache-file=config.cache'
> -n, --no-create do not create output files
> --srcdir=DIR find the sources in DIR [configure dir or `..']
>
> Installation directories:
> --prefix=PREFIX install architecture-independent files in PREFIX
> [/usr/local]
> --exec-prefix=EPREFIX install architecture-dependent files in EPREFIX
> [PREFIX]
>
> By default, `make install' will install all the files in
> `/usr/local/bin', `/usr/local/lib' etc. You can specify
> an installation prefix other than `/usr/local' using `--prefix',
> for instance `--prefix=$HOME'.
>
> For better control, use the options below.
>
> Fine tuning of the installation directories:
> --bindir=DIR user executables [EPREFIX/bin]
> --sbindir=DIR system admin executables [EPREFIX/sbin]
> --libexecdir=DIR program executables [EPREFIX/libexec]
> --sysconfdir=DIR read-only single-machine data [PREFIX/etc]
> --sharedstatedir=DIR modifiable architecture-independent data [PREFIX/com]
> --localstatedir=DIR modifiable single-machine data [PREFIX/var]
> --libdir=DIR object code libraries [EPREFIX/lib]
> --includedir=DIR C header files [PREFIX/include]
> --oldincludedir=DIR C header files for non-gcc [/usr/include]
> --datarootdir=DIR read-only arch.-independent data root [PREFIX/share]
> --datadir=DIR read-only architecture-independent data [DATAROOTDIR]
> --infodir=DIR info documentation [DATAROOTDIR/info]
> --localedir=DIR locale-dependent data [DATAROOTDIR/locale]
> --mandir=DIR man documentation [DATAROOTDIR/man]
> --docdir=DIR documentation root [DATAROOTDIR/doc/PACKAGE]
> --htmldir=DIR html documentation [DOCDIR]
> --dvidir=DIR dvi documentation [DOCDIR]
> --pdfdir=DIR pdf documentation [DOCDIR]
> --psdir=DIR ps documentation [DOCDIR]
>
> Program names:
> --program-prefix=PREFIX prepend PREFIX to installed program names
> --program-suffix=SUFFIX append SUFFIX to installed program names
> --program-transform-name=PROGRAM run sed PROGRAM on installed program names
>
> System types:
> --build=BUILD configure for building on BUILD [guessed]
> --host=HOST cross-compile to build programs to run on HOST [BUILD]
>
> Optional Features:
> --disable-option-checking ignore unrecognized --enable/--with options
> --disable-FEATURE do not include FEATURE (same as --enable-FEATURE=no)
> --enable-FEATURE[=ARG] include FEATURE [ARG=yes]
> --enable-maintainer-mode enable make rules and dependencies not useful
> (and sometimes confusing) to the casual installer
> --disable-dependency-tracking speeds up one-time build
> --enable-dependency-tracking do not reject slow dependency extractors
> --disable-nls do not use Native Language Support
> --enable-threads={posix|solaris|pth|win32}
> specify multithreading API
> --disable-threads build without multithread safety
> --disable-rpath do not hardcode runtime library paths
> --disable-osmupload Disable code to do osm uploads
> --disable-gtktest do not try to compile and run a test GTK+ program
> --disable-gtktest Do not try to compile and run a test GTK program
>
> Optional Packages:
> --with-PACKAGE[=ARG] use PACKAGE [ARG=yes]
> --without-PACKAGE do not use PACKAGE (same as --with-PACKAGE=no)
> --with-gnu-ld assume the C compiler uses GNU ld default=no
> --with-libpth-prefix[=DIR] search for libpth in DIR/include and DIR/lib
> --without-libpth-prefix don't search for libpth in includedir and libdir
> --with-libiconv-prefix[=DIR] search for libiconv in DIR/include and DIR/lib
> --without-libiconv-prefix don't search for libiconv in includedir and
> libdir
> --with-included-gettext use the GNU gettext library included here
> --with-libintl-prefix[=DIR] search for libintl in DIR/include and DIR/lib
> --without-libintl-prefix don't search for libintl in includedir and libdir
> --with-oldgtk Use gtk1.x
> --with-gtk-prefix=PFX Prefix where GTK is installed (optional)
> --with-gtk-exec-prefix=PFX Exec prefix where GTK is installed (optional)
>
> Some influential environment variables:
> CC C compiler command
> CFLAGS C compiler flags
> LDFLAGS linker flags, e.g. -L<lib dir> if you have libraries in a
> nonstandard directory <lib dir>
> LIBS libraries to pass to the linker, e.g. -l<library>
> CPPFLAGS (Objective) C/C++ preprocessor flags, e.g. -I<include dir> if
> you have headers in a nonstandard directory <include dir>
> CPP C preprocessor
> YACC The `Yet Another C Compiler' implementation to use. Defaults to
> the first program found out of: `bison -y', `byacc', `yacc'.
> YFLAGS The list of arguments that will be passed by default to $YACC.
> This script will default YFLAGS to the empty string to avoid a
> default value of `-d' given by some make applications.
> PKG_CONFIG path to pkg-config utility
> PKG_CONFIG_PATH
> directories to add to pkg-config's search path
> PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR
> path overriding pkg-config's built-in search path
> LIBXML2_CFLAGS
> C compiler flags for LIBXML2, overriding pkg-config
> LIBXML2_LIBS
> linker flags for LIBXML2, overriding pkg-config
> LIBCURL_CFLAGS
> C compiler flags for LIBCURL, overriding pkg-config
> LIBCURL_LIBS
> linker flags for LIBCURL, overriding pkg-config
>
> Use these variables to override the choices made by `configure' or to help
> it to find libraries and programs with nonstandard names/locations.
>
>
> Marc
>
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* RS232-USB conversion (was: Compiling FBB)
2011-10-15 10:00 ` Marc Coevoet
2011-10-17 11:25 ` Bernard, f6bvp
@ 2011-10-18 20:07 ` Miroslav Skoric
2011-10-18 20:21 ` Gordon JC Pearce
2011-10-18 21:00 ` Bruno Tréguier
1 sibling, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Miroslav Skoric @ 2011-10-18 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: marcc; +Cc: Bernard, f6bvp, linux-hams, Lee Woldanski
On 10/15/2011 12:00 PM, Marc Coevoet wrote:
> Op 15-10-11 09:55, Bernard, f6bvp schreef:
>> Hello Miroslav,
>>
>> I now understand the libax25 issue.
>> Debian and alike libax25 packages are installing AX.25 libraries into
>> /usr/lib/ whereas by default xfbb link process is expecting libax25.*
>> in /usr/local/lib directory.
>>
>
> No, the link libs are known when compiled (even when different distros
> use different hierarchies). Everything can be configured in an option of
> "configure".
>
OK guys, thank you all for your advices ...will see about compiling FBB
when I return from a conference trip. Btw, after a long time of
avoiding to purchase a laptop/notebook comp (and still living well
without a cellphone :-)), I have been thinking about an inexpensive
portable comp that could run not only PPT (or similarly formatted)
scientific presentations, but also to give me an opportunity to run my
TNC2S (an old German-made TNC), which connects over RS232. I do not know
if some of you have experience with some of those adapters that convert
an USB output of a laptop to a RS232 connector of a TNC. I heard that
some adapters (if not all) come with a kind of software that makes them
thinking that the computer still has COM1, COM2, etc, but I don't know
if such software works only in M$ world or/and in Linux too. (In the
other words, I would like to have a relatively modern machine, but to
avoid buying an expensive one that is still equipped with RS232.)
Opinions?
Misko
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* Re: RS232-USB conversion (was: Compiling FBB)
2011-10-18 20:07 ` RS232-USB conversion (was: Compiling FBB) Miroslav Skoric
@ 2011-10-18 20:21 ` Gordon JC Pearce
2011-10-18 21:16 ` RS232-USB conversion Dave Platt
2011-10-18 21:00 ` Bruno Tréguier
1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Gordon JC Pearce @ 2011-10-18 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Miroslav Skoric, linux-hams
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:07:07 +0200
Miroslav Skoric <skoric@eunet.rs> wrote:
> thinking that the computer still has COM1, COM2, etc, but I don't know
> if such software works only in M$ world or/and in Linux too. (In the
> other words, I would like to have a relatively modern machine, but to
> avoid buying an expensive one that is still equipped with RS232.)
If you use a USB-to-serial adaptor, it will appear as something like /dev/ttyUSB0 in Linux. In Windows it's a bit hit-or-miss.
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* Re: RS232-USB conversion
2011-10-18 20:07 ` RS232-USB conversion (was: Compiling FBB) Miroslav Skoric
2011-10-18 20:21 ` Gordon JC Pearce
@ 2011-10-18 21:00 ` Bruno Tréguier
1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Bruno Tréguier @ 2011-10-18 21:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Miroslav Skoric; +Cc: linux-hams
Le 18/10/2011 à 22:07, Miroslav Skoric a écrit :
> OK guys, thank you all for your advices ...will see about compiling FBB
> when I return from a conference trip. Btw, after a long time of avoiding
> to purchase a laptop/notebook comp (and still living well without a
> cellphone :-)), I have been thinking about an inexpensive portable comp
> that could run not only PPT (or similarly formatted) scientific
> presentations, but also to give me an opportunity to run my TNC2S (an
> old German-made TNC), which connects over RS232. I do not know if some
> of you have experience with some of those adapters that convert an USB
> output of a laptop to a RS232 connector of a TNC. I heard that some
> adapters (if not all) come with a kind of software that makes them
> thinking that the computer still has COM1, COM2, etc, but I don't know
> if such software works only in M$ world or/and in Linux too. (In the
> other words, I would like to have a relatively modern machine, but to
> avoid buying an expensive one that is still equipped with RS232.)
>
> Opinions?
Hi Miroslav,
I guess all those devices come at least with a Windows driver, but
regarding Linux you shouldn't have any problem either, as most of the
converters out there are based on FTDI or Prolific chipsets, which have
been supported out-of-the-box by linux kernels for at least several
years now. They usually are seen as /dev/ttyACMxx or /dev/ttyUSBxx
respectively, and flow-control signals are also correctly dealt with.
However, I heard (or rather read) some people stating that though all
devices seemed to work fine for rig-control purposes, they had problems
when using Prolific-based converters for FSK, which weren't quick enough
(the issue seemed to be driver-related). This information is quite old
now, but if you want to avoid problems, you should probably favour
FTDI-based converters if you intend to use them with your TNC.
Best regards,
Bruno - F8FIV
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* Re: RS232-USB conversion
2011-10-18 20:21 ` Gordon JC Pearce
@ 2011-10-18 21:16 ` Dave Platt
0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Dave Platt @ 2011-10-18 21:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gordon JC Pearce; +Cc: Miroslav Skoric, linux-hams
> If you use a USB-to-serial adaptor, it will appear as something like /dev/ttyUSB0 in Linux. In Windows it's a bit hit-or-miss.
Some USB-to-serial adapters (e.g. those from FTDI) come with
individual machine-readable serial numbers scribed into each
individual chip, which can be read out by the host software.
This can be a definite advantage in Linux (and perhaps in Windows
as well) because it's possible to arrange for each specific
physical USB-to-serial adapter, to be assigned the same
device name in /dev each time it is connected. On modern
Linux distributions you can use the "udev" scripts to
assign a name-alias, if you wish... so, for example, the
adapter you have connected to your TNC might always
be /dev/ttyTNC0.
Without a unique ID in the chip, device-name assignment is much
more hit-or-miss. If you have two or more such adapters connected,
they may change "names" each time you reboot... it'll depend on just
what order your USB hubs and devices are recognized ("enumerated")
at boot time. On Linux they'll swap /dev names around, on Windows
they will have different "virtual serial port" COM names.
The Prolific CP2103 USB-to-serial adapter chips (quite popular)
don't generally have IDs in them... I believe this chip *can*
be used with an external (I2C or SPI) EEPROM chip that holds
an ID, but very few manufacturers use this feature.
Interesting note - FTDI now makes a USB-to-serial adapter
which is built into a shell that's the same size as a
DB-9 male or female PC-mount connector, and has the
same pinout. If you have a device which has a DB-9 RS-232
connector mounted on its PC board, you can unsolder this,
solder in the corresponding FTDI adapter, and your device
now has a USB-serial connection rather than RS-232.
Unfortunately they don't seem to make these to fit the
older DB-25 connector standard.
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-10-15 7:55 ` Bernard, f6bvp
2011-10-15 10:00 ` Marc Coevoet
@ 2011-10-21 4:02 ` David Ranch
2011-10-21 10:15 ` Bernard, f6bvp
2011-10-21 12:04 ` Thomas Osterried
1 sibling, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: David Ranch @ 2011-10-21 4:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bernard, f6bvp; +Cc: ralf, linux-hams, ax25
Hello Bernard, Ralf, Thomas,
I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now: Do you know why
the official version of the ax25 apps/libs/tools hasn't been updated in
ages? I've been slowly hacking up the legacy "released" versions to
work around bugs I've found in my personal uses and I'm sure there are
other issues I haven't hit.. yet:
nrattach.c - non-incrementing nr interfaces (netrom)
http://marc.info/?l=linux-hams&m=125646640011531&w=2
axipd/kiss.c - control byte non-zero when used for axudp tunnels
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=606338
It seems that many of these issues are resolved in the official CVS but
maybe other issues as you pointed out in that Google URL aren't. It
would be nice if we could at least get the current CVS pushed out as
say a new official version of 0.0.13 and be aligned across all three
packages. Even better, have this 0.0.13 version integrate the fixes in
the Google repo too?
--David
Bernard, f6bvp wrote:
> Hello Miroslav,
>
> I now understand the libax25 issue.
> Debian and alike libax25 packages are installing AX.25 libraries into
> /usr/lib/ whereas by default xfbb link process is expecting libax25.*
> in /usr/local/lib directory.
>
> You will certainly know how to edit Makefile in order to tell it where
> to find the libraries.
>
> I must say that for many reasons I do prefere to get all hamradio
> applications and libraries in /usr/local subdirectories.
> This is more convenient for backups and file search.
>
> Last remark : there have been some updates and bug removals in the
> "unofficial" libax25, tools and apps that I gave you as compared to
> the "old one" you are using (libax25 > 0.0.11-6.1).
>
> This is the result of an intensive work performed by Lee VE7FET with
> FPAC development team. The site I gave you the address has Debian /
> Ubuntu compatible packages. You should consider using them. This will
> not break anything in your application but rather remove some failure
> causes.
>
>
> 73 de Bernard, f6bvp
>
>
>
> Le 15/10/2011 00:10, Miroslav Skoric a écrit :
>> On 10/11/2011 10:18 AM, f6bvp wrote:
>>> *Hello Miroslav,
>>>
>>> It looks like you did not install AX.25 libraries (libax25) before
>>> installing FBB.
>>> Look at the following link :
>>>
>>> http://code.google.com/p/linuxax25/
>>>
>>> 73 de Bernard, f6bvp
>>>
>>
>> Hi Bernard,
>>
>> I already had libax25 (as well as ax25-apps and ax25-tools) before
>> trying to compile FBB. Btw, in respect to repositories of Ubuntu and
>> Debian communities, I installed the version they both provided: libax25
>> 0.0.11-6.1)
>>
>> However, I checked the link above, but not sure what their versions
>> might help me in regard to the FBB compiling issue. In fact, I would
>> like to keep the existing ax25 stuff, provided they bring basic
>> functionality (for example, I managed to activate a few Linux nodes in
>> Ubuntu and Debian, and now I am in the process of configuring them to
>> interact with Win/BPQ32 nodes in the mixed Lin/Win dual-boot
>> environment.)
>>
>> What else could I eventually try to install/reinstall?
>>
>> Misko, YT7MPB
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-10-21 4:02 ` Compiling FBB David Ranch
@ 2011-10-21 10:15 ` Bernard, f6bvp
2011-10-21 17:11 ` Lee Woldanski
2011-10-21 12:04 ` Thomas Osterried
1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Bernard, f6bvp @ 2011-10-21 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Ranch; +Cc: ralf, linux-hams, ax25, Lee Woldanski
Hello Misko,
Lee Ve7et is the maintainer of "unofficial" AX.25 suite.
These AX.25 programs are constantly updated, as opposed to the certainly
too slowly maintained "official" versions.
We are willing to repare all known bugs as soon as possible.
If you have personal solutions to known or unknown bugs, please let us
know by sending patches to the linux-ham list with copies to Ralf DL5BE.
We will do our best to improve the AX.25 libraries and applications.
73 de Bernard, f6bvp
Le 21/10/2011 06:02, David Ranch a écrit :
>
> Hello Bernard, Ralf, Thomas,
>
> I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now: Do you know why
> the official version of the ax25 apps/libs/tools hasn't been updated in
> ages? I've been slowly hacking up the legacy "released" versions to work
> around bugs I've found in my personal uses and I'm sure there are other
> issues I haven't hit.. yet:
>
> nrattach.c - non-incrementing nr interfaces (netrom)
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-hams&m=125646640011531&w=2
>
> axipd/kiss.c - control byte non-zero when used for axudp tunnels
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=606338
>
>
> It seems that many of these issues are resolved in the official CVS but
> maybe other issues as you pointed out in that Google URL aren't. It
> would be nice if we could at least get the current CVS pushed out as say
> a new official version of 0.0.13 and be aligned across all three
> packages. Even better, have this 0.0.13 version integrate the fixes in
> the Google repo too?
>
> --David
>
>
>
> Bernard, f6bvp wrote:
>> Hello Miroslav,
>>
>> I now understand the libax25 issue.
>> Debian and alike libax25 packages are installing AX.25 libraries into
>> /usr/lib/ whereas by default xfbb link process is expecting libax25.*
>> in /usr/local/lib directory.
>>
>> You will certainly know how to edit Makefile in order to tell it where
>> to find the libraries.
>>
>> I must say that for many reasons I do prefere to get all hamradio
>> applications and libraries in /usr/local subdirectories.
>> This is more convenient for backups and file search.
>>
>> Last remark : there have been some updates and bug removals in the
>> "unofficial" libax25, tools and apps that I gave you as compared to
>> the "old one" you are using (libax25 > 0.0.11-6.1).
>>
>> This is the result of an intensive work performed by Lee VE7FET with
>> FPAC development team. The site I gave you the address has Debian /
>> Ubuntu compatible packages. You should consider using them. This will
>> not break anything in your application but rather remove some failure
>> causes.
>>
>>
>> 73 de Bernard, f6bvp
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 15/10/2011 00:10, Miroslav Skoric a écrit :
>>> On 10/11/2011 10:18 AM, f6bvp wrote:
>>>> *Hello Miroslav,
>>>>
>>>> It looks like you did not install AX.25 libraries (libax25) before
>>>> installing FBB.
>>>> Look at the following link :
>>>>
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/linuxax25/
>>>>
>>>> 73 de Bernard, f6bvp
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Bernard,
>>>
>>> I already had libax25 (as well as ax25-apps and ax25-tools) before
>>> trying to compile FBB. Btw, in respect to repositories of Ubuntu and
>>> Debian communities, I installed the version they both provided: libax25
>>> 0.0.11-6.1)
>>>
>>> However, I checked the link above, but not sure what their versions
>>> might help me in regard to the FBB compiling issue. In fact, I would
>>> like to keep the existing ax25 stuff, provided they bring basic
>>> functionality (for example, I managed to activate a few Linux nodes in
>>> Ubuntu and Debian, and now I am in the process of configuring them to
>>> interact with Win/BPQ32 nodes in the mixed Lin/Win dual-boot
>>> environment.)
>>>
>>> What else could I eventually try to install/reinstall?
>>>
>>> Misko, YT7MPB
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-10-21 4:02 ` Compiling FBB David Ranch
2011-10-21 10:15 ` Bernard, f6bvp
@ 2011-10-21 12:04 ` Thomas Osterried
2011-11-08 20:05 ` Patrick Ouellette
1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Osterried @ 2011-10-21 12:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Ranch, Bernard, f6bvp, ralf, linux-hams
Hello,
On 2011-10-20 21:02:44 -0700, David Ranch <linux-hams@trinnet.net>
wrote in <4EA0EEE4.7050502@trinnet.net>:
>
> Hello Bernard, Ralf, Thomas,
>
> I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now: Do you know
> why the official version of the ax25 apps/libs/tools hasn't been
> updated in ages?
Unfortunately, there's no debian-developer who regulary builds new
packages from the CVS head of ax25-apps, -tools and libax25.
> I've been slowly hacking up the legacy "released"
> versions to work around bugs I've found in my personal uses and I'm
> sure there are other issues I haven't hit.. yet:
We're trying to fix bugs we're aware of.
> nrattach.c - non-incrementing nr interfaces (netrom)
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-hams&m=125646640011531&w=2
http://www.linux-ax25.org/cvsweb/ax25-tools/netrom/nrattach.c.diff?r1=1.3;r2=1.4;f=h
I was guilty. I have fixed it 2009/11/02.
>
> axipd/kiss.c - control byte non-zero when used for axudp tunnels
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=606338
It has been a long thread.
We rejected the patch because it leads kiss-commands to be converted
to normal data packets.
If there really come data packets with the wrong kiss header (i.E.
slottime+DATA), the software (or kernel-driver) which sends false data
has to be fixed.
> It seems that many of these issues are resolved in the official CVS
> but maybe other issues as you pointed out in that Google URL aren't.
Again: We're trying to fix bugs get aware of.
> It would be nice if we could at least get the current CVS pushed
> out as say a new official version of 0.0.13 and be aligned across
> all three packages. Even better, have this 0.0.13 version
> integrate the fixes in the Google repo too?
What google repo?
The ax25-apps, -tools and libax25 are homed at linux-ax25.org.
vy 73,
- Thomas dl9sau
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-10-21 10:15 ` Bernard, f6bvp
@ 2011-10-21 17:11 ` Lee Woldanski
0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Lee Woldanski @ 2011-10-21 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Ranch; +Cc: Bernard, f6bvp, ralf, linux-hams, ax25
As Bernard has eluded to, I am maintaining my own copies of the
official AX.25 suite at http://linuxax25.googlecode.com.
This is a personal project so that I can package up the source for
easier deployment to my embedded systems. If someone else finds it
useful, that's great.
I have taken the CVS source from http://www.linux-ax25.org and
re-organized it a bit, and integrated it with Autotools. It makes it
easier to build and maintain, in my opinion.
I have used the CVS source as my code base, since there are a number
of bug fixes in there that are not present in the current released
version.
I would like all patches and bug fixes to be sent to the official
maintainers, as I pull my changes from there. That said, I wouldn't
mind a heads up on any submitted patches, so I can keep an eye open
for them when they are accepted (since I manually check for diffs
periodically).
Cheers!
Lee
VE7FET
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Bernard, f6bvp <f6bvp@free.fr> wrote:
> Hello Misko,
>
> Lee Ve7fet is the maintainer of "unofficial" AX.25 suite.
> These AX.25 programs are constantly updated, as opposed to the certainly too
> slowly maintained "official" versions.
>
> We are willing to repare all known bugs as soon as possible.
>
> If you have personal solutions to known or unknown bugs, please let us know
> by sending patches to the linux-ham list with copies to Ralf DL5BE.
>
> We will do our best to improve the AX.25 libraries and applications.
>
> 73 de Bernard, f6bvp
>
> Le 21/10/2011 06:02, David Ranch a écrit :
>>
>> Hello Bernard, Ralf, Thomas,
>>
>> I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now: Do you know why
>> the official version of the ax25 apps/libs/tools hasn't been updated in
>> ages? I've been slowly hacking up the legacy "released" versions to work
>> around bugs I've found in my personal uses and I'm sure there are other
>> issues I haven't hit.. yet:
>>
>> nrattach.c - non-incrementing nr interfaces (netrom)
>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-hams&m=125646640011531&w=2
>>
>> axipd/kiss.c - control byte non-zero when used for axudp tunnels
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=606338
>>
>>
>> It seems that many of these issues are resolved in the official CVS but
>> maybe other issues as you pointed out in that Google URL aren't. It
>> would be nice if we could at least get the current CVS pushed out as say
>> a new official version of 0.0.13 and be aligned across all three
>> packages. Even better, have this 0.0.13 version integrate the fixes in
>> the Google repo too?
>>
>> --David
>>
>>
>>
>> Bernard, f6bvp wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Miroslav,
>>>
>>> I now understand the libax25 issue.
>>> Debian and alike libax25 packages are installing AX.25 libraries into
>>> /usr/lib/ whereas by default xfbb link process is expecting libax25.*
>>> in /usr/local/lib directory.
>>>
>>> You will certainly know how to edit Makefile in order to tell it where
>>> to find the libraries.
>>>
>>> I must say that for many reasons I do prefere to get all hamradio
>>> applications and libraries in /usr/local subdirectories.
>>> This is more convenient for backups and file search.
>>>
>>> Last remark : there have been some updates and bug removals in the
>>> "unofficial" libax25, tools and apps that I gave you as compared to
>>> the "old one" you are using (libax25 > 0.0.11-6.1).
>>>
>>> This is the result of an intensive work performed by Lee VE7FET with
>>> FPAC development team. The site I gave you the address has Debian /
>>> Ubuntu compatible packages. You should consider using them. This will
>>> not break anything in your application but rather remove some failure
>>> causes.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73 de Bernard, f6bvp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 15/10/2011 00:10, Miroslav Skoric a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> On 10/11/2011 10:18 AM, f6bvp wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> *Hello Miroslav,
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like you did not install AX.25 libraries (libax25) before
>>>>> installing FBB.
>>>>> Look at the following link :
>>>>>
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/linuxax25/
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 de Bernard, f6bvp
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Bernard,
>>>>
>>>> I already had libax25 (as well as ax25-apps and ax25-tools) before
>>>> trying to compile FBB. Btw, in respect to repositories of Ubuntu and
>>>> Debian communities, I installed the version they both provided: libax25
>>>> 0.0.11-6.1)
>>>>
>>>> However, I checked the link above, but not sure what their versions
>>>> might help me in regard to the FBB compiling issue. In fact, I would
>>>> like to keep the existing ax25 stuff, provided they bring basic
>>>> functionality (for example, I managed to activate a few Linux nodes in
>>>> Ubuntu and Debian, and now I am in the process of configuring them to
>>>> interact with Win/BPQ32 nodes in the mixed Lin/Win dual-boot
>>>> environment.)
>>>>
>>>> What else could I eventually try to install/reinstall?
>>>>
>>>> Misko, YT7MPB
>>>
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-10-21 12:04 ` Thomas Osterried
@ 2011-11-08 20:05 ` Patrick Ouellette
2011-11-08 20:12 ` Thomas Osterried
` (3 more replies)
0 siblings, 4 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Patrick Ouellette @ 2011-11-08 20:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Osterried; +Cc: David Ranch, Bernard, f6bvp, ralf, linux-hams
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 02:04:00PM +0200, Thomas Osterried wrote:
>
> On 2011-10-20 21:02:44 -0700, David Ranch <linux-hams@trinnet.net>
> wrote in <4EA0EEE4.7050502@trinnet.net>:
> >
> > Hello Bernard, Ralf, Thomas,
> >
> > I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now: Do you know
> > why the official version of the ax25 apps/libs/tools hasn't been
> > updated in ages?
>
> Unfortunately, there's no debian-developer who regulary builds new
> packages from the CVS head of ax25-apps, -tools and libax25.
I used maintain ax25 for Debian to a long time ago. Apparently I will be
picking up support in Debian again since no one else seems to want to and the
"team maintainer" concept has fallen apart.
The first order of business I have to attend to is the apparent need to rename
the node package and binary to ax25-node.
www.linux-ax25.org is apparently down right now?
(the Google repo mentioned is: http://code.google.com/p/linuxax25/ )
73,
Pat
--
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ne4po (at) arrl (dot) net Amateur Radio: NE4PO
What kind of change have you been in the world today?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-11-08 20:05 ` Patrick Ouellette
@ 2011-11-08 20:12 ` Thomas Osterried
2011-11-08 21:22 ` Ralf Baechle DL5RB
` (2 subsequent siblings)
3 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Osterried @ 2011-11-08 20:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Patrick Ouellette
Cc: Thomas Osterried, David Ranch, Bernard, f6bvp, ralf, linux-hams
Am Dienstag, den 08. November 2011 um 21:05:24 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Ouellette <pouelle@debian.org> in <20111108200524.GE30829@flying-gecko.net>:
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 02:04:00PM +0200, Thomas Osterried wrote:
> >
> > On 2011-10-20 21:02:44 -0700, David Ranch <linux-hams@trinnet.net>
> > wrote in <4EA0EEE4.7050502@trinnet.net>:
> > >
> > > Hello Bernard, Ralf, Thomas,
> > >
> > > I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now: Do you know
> > > why the official version of the ax25 apps/libs/tools hasn't been
> > > updated in ages?
> >
> > Unfortunately, there's no debian-developer who regulary builds new
> > packages from the CVS head of ax25-apps, -tools and libax25.
>
> I used maintain ax25 for Debian to a long time ago. Apparently I will be
> picking up support in Debian again since no one else seems to want to and the
> "team maintainer" concept has fallen apart.
>
> The first order of business I have to attend to is the apparent need to rename
> the node package and binary to ax25-node.
>
> www.linux-ax25.org is apparently down right now?
yes, it's currently under maintainance:
** PROBLEM Service Alert: linux-ax25/FTP is CRITICAL **
Von:
root@mail-smt.osterried.it
An:
thomas@x-berg.in-berlin.de
Datum:
Tue Nov 8 21:00:04 2011
***** Nagios *****
Notification Type: PROBLEM
Service: FTP
Host: linux-ax25
Address: 81.2.74.12
State: CRITICAL
Date/Time: Tue Nov 8 21:00:04 CET 2011
Additional Info:
Connection refused
>
> (the Google repo mentioned is: http://code.google.com/p/linuxax25/ )
>
> 73,
>
> Pat
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-11-08 20:05 ` Patrick Ouellette
2011-11-08 20:12 ` Thomas Osterried
@ 2011-11-08 21:22 ` Ralf Baechle DL5RB
2011-11-08 21:39 ` Bill Vodall
2011-11-09 1:22 ` David Ranch
3 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Ralf Baechle DL5RB @ 2011-11-08 21:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Patrick Ouellette
Cc: Thomas Osterried, David Ranch, Bernard, f6bvp, linux-hams
On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 03:05:24PM -0500, Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> I used maintain ax25 for Debian to a long time ago. Apparently I will be
> picking up support in Debian again since no one else seems to want to and the
> "team maintainer" concept has fallen apart.
>
> The first order of business I have to attend to is the apparent need to rename
> the node package and binary to ax25-node.
>
> www.linux-ax25.org is apparently down right now?
I'm upgrading the VM. All services are running again but there might be
a few more brief outages to the ftp service while I'm doing nasty things
to systemd.
Ralf
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-11-08 20:05 ` Patrick Ouellette
2011-11-08 20:12 ` Thomas Osterried
2011-11-08 21:22 ` Ralf Baechle DL5RB
@ 2011-11-08 21:39 ` Bill Vodall
2011-11-08 22:09 ` Patrick Ouellette
2011-11-09 1:22 ` David Ranch
3 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Bill Vodall @ 2011-11-08 21:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-hams
>> > I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now: Do you know
>> > why the official version of the ax25 apps/libs/tools hasn't been
>> > updated in ages?
>>
>> Unfortunately, there's no debian-developer who regulary builds new
>> packages from the CVS head of ax25-apps, -tools and libax25.
>
> I used maintain ax25 for Debian to a long time ago. Apparently I will be
> picking up support in Debian again since no one else seems to want to and the
> "team maintainer" concept has fallen apart.
Does this have any relationship to the ax25-* packages in the Ubuntu
LTS releases? I had a frustrating experience last week getting ax25
going again on a system and was wondering what could be done to make
it work out of the box for the next user.
Thanks,
Bill - WA7NWP
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-11-08 21:39 ` Bill Vodall
@ 2011-11-08 22:09 ` Patrick Ouellette
0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Patrick Ouellette @ 2011-11-08 22:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bill Vodall; +Cc: linux-hams
On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 01:39:39PM -0800, Bill Vodall wrote:
>
> Does this have any relationship to the ax25-* packages in the Ubuntu
> LTS releases? I had a frustrating experience last week getting ax25
> going again on a system and was wondering what could be done to make
> it work out of the box for the next user.
>
If Ubuntu does not have their own version of the ax25-* packages
(usually they have -ubuntu- in the package name), then yes it does.
Pat
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-11-08 20:05 ` Patrick Ouellette
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2011-11-08 21:39 ` Bill Vodall
@ 2011-11-09 1:22 ` David Ranch
2011-11-09 7:09 ` Marc Coevoet
` (2 more replies)
3 siblings, 3 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: David Ranch @ 2011-11-09 1:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Patrick Ouellette
Cc: Thomas Osterried, Bernard, f6bvp, ralf, linux-hams, kd1zd
Hello Patrick,
Thanks for willing to take this back on! One thing to regarding the
node binary. The old "Linux Node" software evidently has several major
security vulnerabilities in it that were resolved in a fork called
Uronode. See the Unode release nodes below for more details.
The HAM that wrote Uronode has seemingly dropped of the map as all his
domains no longer work, etc. A different HAM (KD1ZD) has reposted that
work as a new fork called Unode. I would argue that the original Linux
node software should be patched to be secure or better yet, be DROPPED
from the ax25 suite in favor of this new Unode software which is "more"
secure, has some additional features, etc.
https://github.com/kd1zd/Unode
Just my $0.02
--David
KI6ZHD
Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 02:04:00PM +0200, Thomas Osterried wrote:
>> On 2011-10-20 21:02:44 -0700, David Ranch <linux-hams@trinnet.net>
>> wrote in <4EA0EEE4.7050502@trinnet.net>:
>>> Hello Bernard, Ralf, Thomas,
>>>
>>> I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now: Do you know
>>> why the official version of the ax25 apps/libs/tools hasn't been
>>> updated in ages?
>> Unfortunately, there's no debian-developer who regulary builds new
>> packages from the CVS head of ax25-apps, -tools and libax25.
>
> I used maintain ax25 for Debian to a long time ago. Apparently I will be
> picking up support in Debian again since no one else seems to want to and the
> "team maintainer" concept has fallen apart.
>
> The first order of business I have to attend to is the apparent need to rename
> the node package and binary to ax25-node.
>
> www.linux-ax25.org is apparently down right now?
>
> (the Google repo mentioned is: http://code.google.com/p/linuxax25/ )
>
> 73,
>
> Pat
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-11-09 1:22 ` David Ranch
@ 2011-11-09 7:09 ` Marc Coevoet
2011-11-09 9:31 ` Thomas Osterried
2011-11-09 9:36 ` Marco Di Martino (IW2OHX)
2 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Marc Coevoet @ 2011-11-09 7:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Ranch
Cc: Patrick Ouellette, Thomas Osterried, Bernard, f6bvp, ralf,
linux-hams, kd1zd
Op 09-11-11 02:22, David Ranch schreef:
> The old "Linux Node" software evidently has several major security
> vulnerabilities in it
Whoooh! Security vulnerabilities. What kind of? What web site?
Marc
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-11-09 1:22 ` David Ranch
2011-11-09 7:09 ` Marc Coevoet
@ 2011-11-09 9:31 ` Thomas Osterried
2011-11-09 9:36 ` Marco Di Martino (IW2OHX)
2 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Osterried @ 2011-11-09 9:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Ranch
Cc: Patrick Ouellette, Thomas Osterried, Bernard, f6bvp, ralf,
linux-hams, kd1zd
Am Mittwoch, den 09. November 2011 um 02:22:30 Uhr, schrieb David Ranch <linux-hams@trinnet.net> in <4EB9D5D6.50509@trinnet.net>:
>
> Hello Patrick,
>
> Thanks for willing to take this back on! One thing to regarding the
> node binary. The old "Linux Node" software evidently has several major
> security vulnerabilities in it that were resolved in a fork called
> Uronode. See the Unode release nodes below for more details.
>
> The HAM that wrote Uronode has seemingly dropped of the map as all his
> domains no longer work, etc. A different HAM (KD1ZD) has reposted that
> work as a new fork called Unode. I would argue that the original Linux
> node software should be patched to be secure or better yet, be DROPPED
> from the ax25 suite in favor of this new Unode software which is "more"
> secure, has some additional features, etc.
The software project Node is not part or ax25-apps/-tools.
> https://github.com/kd1zd/Unode
>
> Just my $0.02
>
> --David
> KI6ZHD
>
>
> Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 02:04:00PM +0200, Thomas Osterried wrote:
> >> On 2011-10-20 21:02:44 -0700, David Ranch <linux-hams@trinnet.net>
> >> wrote in <4EA0EEE4.7050502@trinnet.net>:
> >>> Hello Bernard, Ralf, Thomas,
> >>>
> >>> I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now: Do you know
> >>> why the official version of the ax25 apps/libs/tools hasn't been
> >>> updated in ages?
> >> Unfortunately, there's no debian-developer who regulary builds new
> >> packages from the CVS head of ax25-apps, -tools and libax25.
> >
> > I used maintain ax25 for Debian to a long time ago. Apparently I will be
> > picking up support in Debian again since no one else seems to want to and the
> > "team maintainer" concept has fallen apart.
> >
> > The first order of business I have to attend to is the apparent need to rename
> > the node package and binary to ax25-node.
> >
> > www.linux-ax25.org is apparently down right now?
> >
> > (the Google repo mentioned is: http://code.google.com/p/linuxax25/ )
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Pat
>
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* Re: Compiling FBB
2011-11-09 1:22 ` David Ranch
2011-11-09 7:09 ` Marc Coevoet
2011-11-09 9:31 ` Thomas Osterried
@ 2011-11-09 9:36 ` Marco Di Martino (IW2OHX)
2 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Marco Di Martino (IW2OHX) @ 2011-11-09 9:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Ranch
Cc: Patrick Ouellette, Thomas Osterried, Bernard, f6bvp, ralf,
linux-hams, kd1zd
Hi David,
thanks for the info.
I'm going to test unode at iw2ohx.ampr.org (telnet iw2ohx.ampr.org).
I searched for years a replacement of node. A part security issues, I had
problem with process node that sometimes eat a lot of CPU expecially
when someone
doesn't close connection with "B" command. I hope this problem was fixed
in Unode.
I appreciated flexd implementation, I teste it years ago with AWZNode.
I hope to post feedback here after configuring unode in my ham linux box.
Bye
Marco
iw2ohx
On 11/09/2011 02:22 AM, David Ranch wrote:
>
> Hello Patrick,
>
> Thanks for willing to take this back on! One thing to regarding the
> node binary. The old "Linux Node" software evidently has several major
> security vulnerabilities in it that were resolved in a fork called
> Uronode. See the Unode release nodes below for more details.
>
> The HAM that wrote Uronode has seemingly dropped of the map as all
> his domains no longer work, etc. A different HAM (KD1ZD) has reposted
> that work as a new fork called Unode. I would argue that the
> original Linux node software should be patched to be secure or better
> yet, be DROPPED from the ax25 suite in favor of this new Unode
> software which is "more" secure, has some additional features, etc.
>
> https://github.com/kd1zd/Unode
>
> Just my $0.02
>
> --David
> KI6ZHD
>
>
> Patrick Ouellette wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 02:04:00PM +0200, Thomas Osterried wrote:
>>> On 2011-10-20 21:02:44 -0700, David Ranch <linux-hams@trinnet.net>
>>> wrote in <4EA0EEE4.7050502@trinnet.net>:
>>>> Hello Bernard, Ralf, Thomas,
>>>>
>>>> I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now: Do you know
>>>> why the official version of the ax25 apps/libs/tools hasn't been
>>>> updated in ages?
>>> Unfortunately, there's no debian-developer who regulary builds new
>>> packages from the CVS head of ax25-apps, -tools and libax25.
>>
>> I used maintain ax25 for Debian to a long time ago. Apparently I
>> will be picking up support in Debian again since no one else seems to
>> want to and the
>> "team maintainer" concept has fallen apart.
>> The first order of business I have to attend to is the apparent need
>> to rename
>> the node package and binary to ax25-node.
>>
>> www.linux-ax25.org is apparently down right now?
>>
>> (the Google repo mentioned is: http://code.google.com/p/linuxax25/ )
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Pat
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* Re: Compiling FBB
@ 2011-11-09 9:14 Tomi Manninen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Tomi Manninen @ 2011-11-09 9:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Ranch, Patrick Ouellette
Cc: Bernard, f6bvp, Thomas Osterried, kd1zd, linux-hams, ralf
David Ranch [linux-hams@trinnet.net] kirjoitti:
> Thanks for willing to take this back on! One thing to regarding the
> node binary. The old "Linux Node" software evidently has several major
> security vulnerabilities in it that were resolved in a fork called
> Uronode. See the Unode release nodes below for more details.
I took a quick look, and the only security related thing I found was
in the CHANGES file where Morgan, SM6TKY's report was mentioned.
Most of those vulnerabilities were only present in AWZnode and UROnode.
The ones in LinuxNode were fixed in version 0.3.2 that was released
23 Aug 2003, one day after Morgan's private report.
Also I remember that I fixed a *major* vulnerability in 0.2.6 (released 1999)
This one I noticed myself, it was a "brown paper bag" kind of a thing...
I don't know if that one is fixed in UROnode (which was forked from
AWZnode which was forked from LinuxNode -- but when, I don't know).
Other than those two, I'm not aware of any security vulnerabilities in
the original LinuxNode code. If there are any, they were simply never
reported to me.
> The HAM that wrote Uronode has seemingly dropped of the map as all his
> domains no longer work, etc. A different HAM (KD1ZD) has reposted that
> work as a new fork called Unode. I would argue that the original Linux
> node software should be patched to be secure or better yet, be DROPPED
> from the ax25 suite in favor of this new Unode software which is "more"
> secure, has some additional features, etc.
Well, LinuxNode has been a separate package at least since 1999, version
0.3.0, so I don't know about that "dropping". However I have no objections
to anyone using Unode or it becoming the "standard", so just go ahead.
/Tomi, oh2bns
PS. Patrick, I was made aware about that node/node.js clash by someone
reading the debian mailing list but I never got around to participating in the
debate. :-/ To me it's completely ok if you rename the binary in the debian
package to axnode, ax25-node or whatever. It was quite braindead from
me to use such a generic name, even though it was back in 1994 and
something aimed for a fairly closed audience. Altogether another issue is
how someone managed to do that again more than a decade later and with
a name that was already "reserved"... :)
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* Compiling FBB
@ 2011-10-02 15:41 Miroslav Skoric
0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Miroslav Skoric @ 2011-10-02 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linux Hams
Hi all!
I have been trying to compile fbbsrc.705c9 in Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS. Both
daemon and X11 compile fails, as follows:
misko@client:/usr/local/src/ax25/fbbsrc.705c9/src$ sudo make
gcc -Wall -O2 -Wstrict-prototypes -funsigned-char -D__LINUX__
-DPROTOTYPES -I../include -fstack-check -c -o arbre.o arbre.c
In file included from ../include/serv.h:97,
from arbre.c:32:
../include/fbb_serv.h:47:26: error: netax25/ax25.h: No such file or
directory
In file included from ../include/fbb_serv.h:48,
from ../include/serv.h:97,
from arbre.c:32:
/usr/include/netrom/netrom.h:44: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘ax25_address’
In file included from ../include/fbb_serv.h:49,
from ../include/serv.h:97,
from arbre.c:32:
/usr/include/netrose/rose.h:74: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before ‘ax25_address’
/usr/include/netrose/rose.h:83: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before ‘ax25_address’
/usr/include/netrose/rose.h:92: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before ‘ax25_address’
/usr/include/netrose/rose.h:107: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘ax25_address’
../include/fbb_serv.h:50:27: error: netax25/axlib.h: No such file or
directory
make: *** [arbre.o] Error 1
misko@client:/usr/local/src/ax25/fbbsrc.705c9/src$
... and for X11 ...
misko@client:/usr/local/src/ax25/fbbsrc.705c9/src/X11$ sudo make
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -g -funsigned-char -D__LINUX__
-DPROTOTYPES -I../../include -I/usr/X11R6/LessTif/Motif2.0/include
-I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/netax25 -c -o xfbbabtd.o
xfbbabtd.c
In file included from ../../include/serv.h:97,
from xfbbabtd.c:27:
../../include/fbb_serv.h:47:26: error: netax25/ax25.h: No such file or
directory
In file included from ../../include/fbb_serv.h:48,
from ../../include/serv.h:97,
from xfbbabtd.c:27:
/usr/include/netrom/netrom.h:44: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘ax25_address’
In file included from ../../include/fbb_serv.h:49,
from ../../include/serv.h:97,
from xfbbabtd.c:27:
/usr/include/netrose/rose.h:74: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before ‘ax25_address’
/usr/include/netrose/rose.h:83: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before ‘ax25_address’
/usr/include/netrose/rose.h:92: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list
before ‘ax25_address’
/usr/include/netrose/rose.h:107: error: expected
specifier-qualifier-list before ‘ax25_address’
../../include/fbb_serv.h:50:27: error: netax25/axlib.h: No such file or
directory
make: *** [xfbbabtd.o] Error 1
misko@client:/usr/local/src/ax25/fbbsrc.705c9/src/X11$
Any suggestion to check for something that might be missing? Btw, I
noticed that related Makefile files have both AX25INCPATH =
/usr/local/include/netax25 but I do not see ../netax25 folder there (or
anywhere else).
Regards,
Misko YT7MPB
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