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From: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	qemu-devel Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Vaidyanathan S <svaidy@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Exporting Guest RAM information for NUMA binding
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:50:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111121225010.GE3344@sequoia.sous-sol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1321894980.28118.16.camel@twins>

* Peter Zijlstra (a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl) wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 21:30 +0530, Bharata B Rao wrote:
> > 
> > In the original post of this mail thread, I proposed a way to export
> > guest RAM ranges (Guest Physical Address-GPA) and their corresponding host
> > host virtual mappings (Host Virtual Address-HVA) from QEMU (via QEMU monitor).
> > The idea was to use this GPA to HVA mappings from tools like libvirt to bind
> > specific parts of the guest RAM to different host nodes. This needed an
> > extension to existing mbind() to allow binding memory of a process(QEMU) from a
> > different process(libvirt). This was needed since we wanted to do all this from
> > libvirt.
> > 
> > Hence I was coming from that background when I asked for extending
> > ms_mbind() to take a tid parameter. If QEMU community thinks that NUMA
> > binding should all be done from outside of QEMU, it is needed, otherwise
> > what you have should be sufficient. 
> 
> That's just retarded, and no you won't get such extentions. Poking at
> another process's virtual address space is just daft. Esp. if there's no
> actual reason for it.

Need to separate the binding vs the policy mgmt.  The policy mgmt could
still be done outside, whereas the binding could still be done from w/in
QEMU.  A simple monitor interface to rebalance vcpu memory allcoations
to different nodes could very well schedule vcpu thread work in QEMU.

So, I agree, even if there is some external policy mgmt, it could still
easily work w/ QEMU to use Peter's proposed interface.

thanks,
-chris

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From: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	qemu-devel Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Vaidyanathan S <svaidy@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] Exporting Guest RAM information for NUMA binding
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:50:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111121225010.GE3344@sequoia.sous-sol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1321894980.28118.16.camel@twins>

* Peter Zijlstra (a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl) wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 21:30 +0530, Bharata B Rao wrote:
> > 
> > In the original post of this mail thread, I proposed a way to export
> > guest RAM ranges (Guest Physical Address-GPA) and their corresponding host
> > host virtual mappings (Host Virtual Address-HVA) from QEMU (via QEMU monitor).
> > The idea was to use this GPA to HVA mappings from tools like libvirt to bind
> > specific parts of the guest RAM to different host nodes. This needed an
> > extension to existing mbind() to allow binding memory of a process(QEMU) from a
> > different process(libvirt). This was needed since we wanted to do all this from
> > libvirt.
> > 
> > Hence I was coming from that background when I asked for extending
> > ms_mbind() to take a tid parameter. If QEMU community thinks that NUMA
> > binding should all be done from outside of QEMU, it is needed, otherwise
> > what you have should be sufficient. 
> 
> That's just retarded, and no you won't get such extentions. Poking at
> another process's virtual address space is just daft. Esp. if there's no
> actual reason for it.

Need to separate the binding vs the policy mgmt.  The policy mgmt could
still be done outside, whereas the binding could still be done from w/in
QEMU.  A simple monitor interface to rebalance vcpu memory allcoations
to different nodes could very well schedule vcpu thread work in QEMU.

So, I agree, even if there is some external policy mgmt, it could still
easily work w/ QEMU to use Peter's proposed interface.

thanks,
-chris

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-21 22:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-29 18:45 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] Exporting Guest RAM information for NUMA binding Bharata B Rao
2011-10-29 19:57 ` Alexander Graf
2011-10-29 19:57   ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-10-30  9:32   ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2011-10-30  9:32     ` [Qemu-devel] " Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2011-11-08 17:33   ` Chris Wright
2011-11-08 17:33     ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Wright
2011-11-21 15:18     ` Bharata B Rao
2011-11-21 15:18       ` Bharata B Rao
2011-11-21 15:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-21 15:25         ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-21 16:00         ` Bharata B Rao
2011-11-21 17:03           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-21 17:03             ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-21 22:50             ` Chris Wright [this message]
2011-11-21 22:50               ` Chris Wright
2011-11-22  1:57               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-22  1:57                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-22  1:51             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-22  1:51               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-23 15:03               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-23 15:03                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-23 18:34                 ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-23 18:34                   ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-23 20:19                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-23 20:19                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-30 16:22                   ` Dipankar Sarma
2011-11-30 16:22                     ` Dipankar Sarma
2011-11-30 16:25                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-30 16:25                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-30 16:33                       ` Chris Wright
2011-11-30 16:33                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Wright
2011-11-30 17:41                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-30 17:41                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2011-12-01 17:25                       ` Dipankar Sarma
2011-12-01 17:25                         ` Dipankar Sarma
2011-12-01 17:36                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-12-01 17:36                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2011-12-01 17:49                           ` Dipankar Sarma
2011-12-01 17:49                             ` Dipankar Sarma
2011-12-01 17:40                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-01 17:40                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-22 11:01                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-22 11:01                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-22 17:13                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-22 17:13                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-22 17:55                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-22 17:55                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-22 19:04                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-22 19:04                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-22 11:24                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-22 11:24                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2011-11-21 18:03         ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-21 18:03           ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-11-21 19:31           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-21 19:31             ` Peter Zijlstra

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