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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Mandeep Singh Baines <msb-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker
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	Paul Menage <paul-inf54ven1CmVyaH7bEyXVA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Q: cgroup: Questions about possible issues in cgroup locking
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:34:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120320193414.GA21277__23457.7666888528$1332272522$gmane$org@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120119154522.GA14058-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

OK, finally we should do something with this problem ;)

On 01/19, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> I'll try to investigate if we can remove
>
> 	leader->group_leader = tsk;
>
> from de_thread(). In fact I already thought about this change a long
> ago without any connection to while_each_thread(). This assignment
> looks "assymetrical" compared to other threads we kill. But we did
> have a reason (reasons?). Hopefully, the only really important reason
> was already removed by 087806b1.

On the second thought, I think we should not do this.

For example, do_prlimit() assumes that tsk->group_leader is correct
under tasklist_lock.

OK, lets return to the thread_group_leader() check. To ensure we do
not visit the same thread twice we can check 'g', not 't'.

This is what I am going to send, after I re-check once again...

I have the problem with the changelog ;) Somehow it should explain
that while_each_thread_rcu(g, t) can't race with do_group_exit().
I think it can't, list_del_rcu(leader->thread_group) happens when
this entry is already "empty", it should be the last thread in group.
If the non-leader thread goes away from the least, we still have
the "path" to reach the leader. But this is not easy to explain.

As for the barrier. If de_thread() changes the leader it drops
and re-acquires tasklist_lock (this implies mb) after it changes
old_leader->exit_signal (used in thread_group_leader) and before
__unhash_process() which does list_del_rcu().

This means that if while_each_thread() sees the result of
list_del_rcu(old_leader) it must also see that
thread_group_leader(old_leader) != T.

What do you think? Do you see any problems?

Oleg.
---

diff --git a/include/linux/sched.h b/include/linux/sched.h
index 7d379a6..f169bfd 100644
--- a/include/linux/sched.h
+++ b/include/linux/sched.h
@@ -2323,9 +2323,24 @@ extern bool current_is_single_threaded(void);
 #define do_each_thread(g, t) \
 	for (g = t = &init_task ; (g = t = next_task(g)) != &init_task ; ) do
 
+/*
+ * needs tasklist_lock or ->siglock, or rcu if the caller ensures
+ * that 'g' can't exit or exec.
+ */
 #define while_each_thread(g, t) \
 	while ((t = next_thread(t)) != g)
 
+/*
+ * rcu-safe, but should start at ->group_leader.
+ * thread_group_leader(g) protects against the race with exec which
+ * removes the leader from list.
+ * smp_rmb() pairs with implicit mb() implied by unlock + lock in
+ * de_thread()->release_task() path.
+ */
+#define while_each_thread_rcu(g, t)				\
+	while ((t = next_thread(t)) != g &&			\
+		({ smp_rmb(); thread_group_leader(g); }))
+
 static inline int get_nr_threads(struct task_struct *tsk)
 {
 	return tsk->signal->nr_threads;

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-20 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-21  3:43 Q: cgroup: Questions about possible issues in cgroup locking Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21  3:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 13:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-12-21 13:08   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-12-21 17:56   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 17:56     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 19:01     ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2011-12-21 19:01       ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]       ` <20111221190102.GE13529-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-21 19:08         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 19:08           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 19:24           ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2011-12-21 19:24             ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]             ` <20111221192413.GF13529-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-21 20:04               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 20:04             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 20:04               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-22 15:30               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-12-22 15:30                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                 ` <20111222153004.GA30522-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-04 19:36                   ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-01-04 19:36                 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-01-04 19:36                   ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                   ` <20120104193614.GF9511-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-06 15:23                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-06 15:23                       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                       ` <20120106152356.GA23995-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-06 18:25                         ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-01-06 18:25                       ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-01-06 18:25                         ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                         ` <20120106182535.GJ9511-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-11 16:07                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-11 16:07                             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                             ` <20120111160730.GA24556-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-12  0:31                               ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-01-12  0:31                                 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                                 ` <20120112003102.GB9511-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-12 17:07                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-12 17:07                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-12 17:57                                     ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-01-12 17:57                                       ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                                       ` <20120112175725.GD9511-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-13 15:20                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-13 15:20                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                           ` <20120113152010.GA19215-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-13 18:27                                             ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-01-13 18:27                                               ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                                               ` <20120113182750.GD18166-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-14 17:36                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-14 17:36                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-18 23:17                                                   ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-01-18 23:17                                                     ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                                                     ` <20120118231742.GS18166-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-19 15:45                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-19 15:45                                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-19 18:18                                                       ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-01-19 18:18                                                         ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                                                         ` <20120119181803.GU18166-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-20 15:06                                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-20 15:06                                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-20 19:34                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-20 19:34                                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                         ` <20120320193414.GA21277-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 18:59                                                           ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-03-21 18:59                                                             ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-03-23 17:51                                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-23 17:51                                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                             ` <20120321185955.GK27051-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-23 17:51                                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                       ` <20120119154522.GA14058-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-19 18:18                                                         ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-03-20 19:34                                                         ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
     [not found]                                                   ` <20120114173648.GA32543-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-18 23:17                                                     ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                                     ` <20120112170728.GA25717-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-12 17:57                                       ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2011-12-22 15:30               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-12-21 19:01     ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-02-01 16:28   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 16:28     ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]   ` <20111221130848.GA19679-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-21 17:56     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 17:59     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 17:59       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 18:11       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-12-21 18:11         ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20111221181101.GA3092-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-21 18:23           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 18:23         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 18:23           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 16:28     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 13:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-12-21  3:43 Frederic Weisbecker

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