build meta-oe without systemd

build meta-oe without systemd

[Eric Bénard]

Hi,

would that make sense to support systemd as a DISTRO_FEATURES ?
That would make builds using older udev (< 174) possible with meta-oe as
this actually fails because of systemd.

Eric

Re: build meta-oe without systemd

[Martin Jansa]

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On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 09:17:20AM +0200, Eric Bénard wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> would that make sense to support systemd as a DISTRO_FEATURES ?
> That would make builds using older udev (< 174) possible with meta-oe as
> this actually fails because of systemd.

You mean without runtime dependency on systemd or even without build
time dep?

Because tricky runtime dependency is imho only in polkit which needs to
be changed in .bbappend and then carefull selection of task-* and their
content.

I was using meta-oe without systemd runtime till last week.

Cheers,
-- 
Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com

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Re: build meta-oe without systemd

[Samuel Stirtzel]

2012/4/4 Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com>:
> Hi,
>
> would that make sense to support systemd as a DISTRO_FEATURES ?
> That would make builds using older udev (< 174) possible with meta-oe as
> this actually fails because of systemd.
>
> Eric
>

Hi,
there was that discussion before,
Martin already gave an overview.

You can read the previous discussion here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org/msg23720.html


-- 
Regards
Samuel

Re: build meta-oe without systemd

[Eric Bénard]

Le Wed, 4 Apr 2012 09:24:19 +0200,
Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com> a écrit :

> On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 09:17:20AM +0200, Eric Bénard wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > would that make sense to support systemd as a DISTRO_FEATURES ?
> > That would make builds using older udev (< 174) possible with meta-oe as
> > this actually fails because of systemd.
> 
> You mean without runtime dependency on systemd or even without build
> time dep?
> 
I mean build time dependency.

Eric

Re: build meta-oe without systemd

[Eric Bénard]

Le Wed, 4 Apr 2012 09:33:55 +0200,
Samuel Stirtzel <s.stirtzel@googlemail.com> a écrit :
> You can read the previous discussion here:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org/msg23720.html
> 
yes I saw that. What I mean is building oe without triggering systemd
build.

Eric

Re: build meta-oe without systemd

[Koen Kooi]

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Op 04-04-12 00:17, Eric Bénard schreef:
> Hi,
> 
> would that make sense to support systemd as a DISTRO_FEATURES ? That
> would make builds using older udev (< 174) possible with meta-oe as this
> actually fails because of systemd.

We talked about this during the yocto bsp summit this week and I'm working
on a patchset to send as RFC later this month (post 1.2 release):

commit b98d45b1bc2d9cf9ba41629240e6c21f19ddceff
Author: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
Date:   Tue Apr 3 14:13:59 2012 -0700

    meta-systemd: move over systemd from meta-oe

    Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>

commit 59c57bd73d1f157dfada233df889852fdb4a692f
Author: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
Date:   Tue Apr 3 14:12:42 2012 -0700

    meta-systemd: create layer

    Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>

regards,

Koen
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Re: build meta-oe without systemd

[Chris Larson]

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> wrote:
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> Op 04-04-12 00:17, Eric Bénard schreef:
>> Hi,
>>
>> would that make sense to support systemd as a DISTRO_FEATURES ? That
>> would make builds using older udev (< 174) possible with meta-oe as this
>> actually fails because of systemd.
>
> We talked about this during the yocto bsp summit this week and I'm working
> on a patchset to send as RFC later this month (post 1.2 release):
>
> commit b98d45b1bc2d9cf9ba41629240e6c21f19ddceff
> Author: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
> Date:   Tue Apr 3 14:13:59 2012 -0700
>
>    meta-systemd: move over systemd from meta-oe
>
>    Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
>
> commit 59c57bd73d1f157dfada233df889852fdb4a692f
> Author: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
> Date:   Tue Apr 3 14:12:42 2012 -0700
>
>    meta-systemd: create layer
>
>    Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>


Woot! We can stop using BBMASK to exclude bbappends from meta-oe when
this happens :)
-- 
Christopher Larson

Re: build meta-oe without systemd

[Denys Dmytriyenko]

On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:59:38AM -0700, Chris Larson wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> > Op 04-04-12 00:17, Eric B??nard schreef:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> would that make sense to support systemd as a DISTRO_FEATURES ? That
> >> would make builds using older udev (< 174) possible with meta-oe as this
> >> actually fails because of systemd.
> >
> > We talked about this during the yocto bsp summit this week and I'm working
> > on a patchset to send as RFC later this month (post 1.2 release):
> >
> > commit b98d45b1bc2d9cf9ba41629240e6c21f19ddceff
> > Author: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
> > Date:   Tue Apr 3 14:13:59 2012 -0700
> >
> >    meta-systemd: move over systemd from meta-oe
> >
> >    Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
> >
> > commit 59c57bd73d1f157dfada233df889852fdb4a692f
> > Author: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
> > Date:   Tue Apr 3 14:12:42 2012 -0700
> >
> >    meta-systemd: create layer
> >
> >    Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
> 
> 
> Woot! We can stop using BBMASK to exclude bbappends from meta-oe when
> this happens :)

Chris,

You should have been at the BSP Summit, especially as it was hosted at 
Mentor. :) That was one of the important decisions made, but this topic 
in particular was being discussed for a while... So, I second your Woot! :)

-- 
Denys

Re: build meta-oe without systemd

[Chris Larson]

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Denys Dmytriyenko <denis@denix.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:59:38AM -0700, Chris Larson wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> wrote:
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>> > Op 04-04-12 00:17, Eric B??nard schreef:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> would that make sense to support systemd as a DISTRO_FEATURES ? That
>> >> would make builds using older udev (< 174) possible with meta-oe as this
>> >> actually fails because of systemd.
>> >
>> > We talked about this during the yocto bsp summit this week and I'm working
>> > on a patchset to send as RFC later this month (post 1.2 release):
>> >
>> > commit b98d45b1bc2d9cf9ba41629240e6c21f19ddceff
>> > Author: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
>> > Date:   Tue Apr 3 14:13:59 2012 -0700
>> >
>> >    meta-systemd: move over systemd from meta-oe
>> >
>> >    Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
>> >
>> > commit 59c57bd73d1f157dfada233df889852fdb4a692f
>> > Author: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
>> > Date:   Tue Apr 3 14:12:42 2012 -0700
>> >
>> >    meta-systemd: create layer
>> >
>> >    Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
>>
>>
>> Woot! We can stop using BBMASK to exclude bbappends from meta-oe when
>> this happens :)
>
> You should have been at the BSP Summit, especially as it was hosted at
> Mentor. :) That was one of the important decisions made, but this topic
> in particular was being discussed for a while... So, I second your Woot! :)

Yeah, I wanted to make it, but unfortunately wasn't able to. Will
probably be there next time around.
-- 
Christopher Larson

Re: build meta-oe without systemd

[Koen Kooi]

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Op 04-04-12 11:59, Chris Larson schreef:
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
> wrote:
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>> Op 04-04-12 00:17, Eric Bénard schreef:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> would that make sense to support systemd as a DISTRO_FEATURES ? That 
>>> would make builds using older udev (< 174) possible with meta-oe as
>>> this actually fails because of systemd.
>> 
>> We talked about this during the yocto bsp summit this week and I'm
>> working on a patchset to send as RFC later this month (post 1.2
>> release):
>> 
>> commit b98d45b1bc2d9cf9ba41629240e6c21f19ddceff Author: Koen Kooi
>> <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> Date:   Tue Apr 3 14:13:59 2012 -0700
>> 
>> meta-systemd: move over systemd from meta-oe
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
>> 
>> commit 59c57bd73d1f157dfada233df889852fdb4a692f Author: Koen Kooi
>> <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> Date:   Tue Apr 3 14:12:42 2012 -0700
>> 
>> meta-systemd: create layer
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
> 
> 
> Woot! We can stop using BBMASK to exclude bbappends from meta-oe when 
> this happens :)

I would appreciate people sending decent bugreports to the list, because it
is *NOT* supposed to break this way. The breakage needs to get fixed before
we merge it into oe-core.

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Re: build meta-oe without systemd

[Eric Bénard]

Hi Koen,

Le Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:50:32 -0700,
Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> a écrit :
> I would appreciate people sending decent bugreports to the list, because it
> is *NOT* supposed to break this way. The breakage needs to get fixed before
> we merge it into oe-core.
> 
to reproduce the problem I met, simply add to a conf file :
PREFERRED_VERSION_udev = "164"

and using oe-core + meta-oe try to build anything which has "inherit
systemd" (even if in the end you don't install the corresponding
${PN}-systemd in the target's rootfs) : systemd's configure will fail
because it requires a more recent udev.

Eric

Re: build meta-oe without systemd

[Chris Larson]

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com> wrote:
> Le Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:50:32 -0700,
> Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> a écrit :
>> I would appreciate people sending decent bugreports to the list, because it
>> is *NOT* supposed to break this way. The breakage needs to get fixed before
>> we merge it into oe-core.
>>
> to reproduce the problem I met, simply add to a conf file :
> PREFERRED_VERSION_udev = "164"
>
> and using oe-core + meta-oe try to build anything which has "inherit
> systemd" (even if in the end you don't install the corresponding
> ${PN}-systemd in the target's rootfs) : systemd's configure will fail
> because it requires a more recent udev.

In addition, for me, at least in the past, I hit an issue where
systemd sucks in x11 bits, which means any DISTRO lacking the 'x11'
distro feature fails miserably at even building busybox.
-- 
Christopher Larson

Re: build meta-oe without systemd

[Koen Kooi]

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Op 06-04-12 17:02, Chris Larson schreef:
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com> wrote:
>> Le Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:50:32 -0700, Koen Kooi
>> <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> a écrit :
>>> I would appreciate people sending decent bugreports to the list,
>>> because it is *NOT* supposed to break this way. The breakage needs to
>>> get fixed before we merge it into oe-core.
>>> 
>> to reproduce the problem I met, simply add to a conf file : 
>> PREFERRED_VERSION_udev = "164"
>> 
>> and using oe-core + meta-oe try to build anything which has "inherit 
>> systemd" (even if in the end you don't install the corresponding 
>> ${PN}-systemd in the target's rootfs) : systemd's configure will fail 
>> because it requires a more recent udev.
> 
> In addition, for me, at least in the past, I hit an issue where systemd
> sucks in x11 bits, which means any DISTRO lacking the 'x11' distro
> feature fails miserably at even building busybox.

Patches to add the missing PACKAGECONFIG options will be greatly appreciated

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