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From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: "Mohammed, Afzal" <afzal@ti.com>
Cc: "Hunter, Jon" <jon-hunter@ti.com>,
	"paul@pwsan.com" <paul@pwsan.com>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: Adapt to HWMOD
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:39:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120613133938.GV12766@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C8443D0743D26F4388EA172BF4E2A7A93E998E2F@DBDE01.ent.ti.com>

* Mohammed, Afzal <afzal@ti.com> [120613 06:10]:
> Hi Tony,
> 
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 17:32:09, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > * Mohammed, Afzal <afzal@ti.com> [120612 22:24]:
> > > Hi Jon,
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 23:10:01, Hunter, Jon wrote:
> 
> > > > Right but potentially, this could be done by the driver.
> > > 
> > > I do not think it is practically possible. Please see timing calculations
> > > in arch/arm/mach-omap2/gpmc-*, the way it is done for different
> > > peripherals are different, and we cannot expect gpmc driver to do those as
> > > that would require gpmc driver being aware of type of peripheral connected.
> > > 
> > > And all those gpmc-* timing calculation needs to be done before driver
> > > is ready, they rely on functions like gpmc_get_fclk_rate(), which in turn
> > > requires the clk rate to be available before driver is probed.
> > 
> > Yeah I also think the GPMC code should handle the L3 timings, and dynamically
> > calculate them for DVFS when L3 frequency changes. Does the GPMC have enough
> > information now to do that?
> 
> Do you mean that gpmc driver should have the capability to calculate peripheral
> timings at runtime based on frequency ?, I am not sure how this can be handled
> by gpmc driver as calculation for different peripherals are done in different
> way, requiring gpmc driver to know about connected peripheral, that would imply
> that gpmc driver would not be peripheral agnostic.
> 
> Or else some sort of a callback to be used ?

Oops yeah right, we have some platform_retime functions that are in the
driver platform init code. It would be best that the drivers can do the
recalculation with no platform init code callbacks needed.
 
> Out of the 20,14 are depending on bootloader, both omap3evm & beagle has been
> converted to utilize runtime calculation, but for other 12 boards, first
> we need to get values used by bootloader (those include peripherals that doesn't
> have gpmc-* helpers), then derive it based on expression, after that only, we
> will have information to achieve it and those are the ones that I do not
> have access to.

It's OK to use fixed timings as long as we disable L3 scaling. Some of
these values we'll probably never be able to calculate dynamically.

Regards,

Tony

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From: tony@atomide.com (Tony Lindgren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v5 02/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: Adapt to HWMOD
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:39:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120613133938.GV12766@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C8443D0743D26F4388EA172BF4E2A7A93E998E2F@DBDE01.ent.ti.com>

* Mohammed, Afzal <afzal@ti.com> [120613 06:10]:
> Hi Tony,
> 
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 17:32:09, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > * Mohammed, Afzal <afzal@ti.com> [120612 22:24]:
> > > Hi Jon,
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 23:10:01, Hunter, Jon wrote:
> 
> > > > Right but potentially, this could be done by the driver.
> > > 
> > > I do not think it is practically possible. Please see timing calculations
> > > in arch/arm/mach-omap2/gpmc-*, the way it is done for different
> > > peripherals are different, and we cannot expect gpmc driver to do those as
> > > that would require gpmc driver being aware of type of peripheral connected.
> > > 
> > > And all those gpmc-* timing calculation needs to be done before driver
> > > is ready, they rely on functions like gpmc_get_fclk_rate(), which in turn
> > > requires the clk rate to be available before driver is probed.
> > 
> > Yeah I also think the GPMC code should handle the L3 timings, and dynamically
> > calculate them for DVFS when L3 frequency changes. Does the GPMC have enough
> > information now to do that?
> 
> Do you mean that gpmc driver should have the capability to calculate peripheral
> timings at runtime based on frequency ?, I am not sure how this can be handled
> by gpmc driver as calculation for different peripherals are done in different
> way, requiring gpmc driver to know about connected peripheral, that would imply
> that gpmc driver would not be peripheral agnostic.
> 
> Or else some sort of a callback to be used ?

Oops yeah right, we have some platform_retime functions that are in the
driver platform init code. It would be best that the drivers can do the
recalculation with no platform init code callbacks needed.
 
> Out of the 20,14 are depending on bootloader, both omap3evm & beagle has been
> converted to utilize runtime calculation, but for other 12 boards, first
> we need to get values used by bootloader (those include peripherals that doesn't
> have gpmc-* helpers), then derive it based on expression, after that only, we
> will have information to achieve it and those are the ones that I do not
> have access to.

It's OK to use fixed timings as long as we disable L3 scaling. Some of
these values we'll probably never be able to calculate dynamically.

Regards,

Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-13 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 232+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-11 14:25 [PATCH v5 00/14] GPMC driver conversion Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:25 ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:26 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: platform definitions Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:26   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-12 18:58   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 18:58     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13  6:25     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13  6:25       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-11 14:26 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: Adapt to HWMOD Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:26   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 19:56   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-11 19:56     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12  6:53     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12  6:53       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12 17:40       ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 17:40         ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13  5:20         ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13  5:20           ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 12:02           ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-13 12:02             ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-13 13:05             ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 13:05               ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 13:39               ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2012-06-13 13:39                 ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-13 13:59                 ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 13:59                   ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 15:08               ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13 15:08                 ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-14  7:07                 ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  7:07                   ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 14:51           ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13 14:51             ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-14  6:17             ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  6:17               ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  6:20               ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  6:20                 ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14 20:51               ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-14 20:51                 ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-15  0:20                 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-06-15  0:20                   ` Paul Walmsley
2012-06-15 15:33                   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-15 15:33                     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-15 10:40                 ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-15 10:40                   ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  7:03             ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  7:03               ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14 13:22               ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-14 13:22                 ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-14 13:32                 ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14 13:32                   ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14 18:58                   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-14 18:58                     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-15 10:22                     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-15 10:22                       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-15 12:45                       ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-15 12:45                         ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-16  9:15                         ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-16  9:15                           ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-20 13:28                           ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-20 13:28                             ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-20 14:52                             ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-20 14:52                               ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-20 15:12                               ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-20 15:12                                 ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-20 23:35                                 ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-20 23:35                                   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-22 13:29                                   ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-22 13:29                                     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-11 14:26 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: driver migration helper Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:26   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 20:30   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-11 20:30     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12  7:09     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12  7:09       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12 17:46       ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 17:46         ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13  5:25         ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13  5:25           ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 12:04     ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-13 12:04       ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-13 12:18       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 12:18         ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 13:46         ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 13:46           ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  6:34           ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-14  6:34             ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-11 14:26 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: minimal driver support Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:26   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 20:43   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-11 20:43     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12  7:16     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12  7:16       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12 17:57       ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 17:57         ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13 12:07         ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-13 12:07           ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-13 13:12           ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 13:12             ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 13:40             ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-13 13:40               ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-13 13:44               ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-13 13:44                 ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-13 13:50                 ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 13:50                   ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 13:52                 ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 13:52                   ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  6:35                   ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-14  6:35                     ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-14  6:40                     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  6:40                       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  8:39                       ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-14  8:39                         ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-14  8:42                         ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  8:42                           ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 17:05               ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13 17:05                 ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 19:19   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 19:19     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13  6:29     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13  6:29       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-11 14:26 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: resource creation helpers Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:26   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 20:57   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-11 20:57     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12  8:30     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12  8:30       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12 18:02       ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 18:02         ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13  5:29         ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13  5:29           ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 15:33           ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13 15:33             ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-14  8:44             ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  8:44               ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-11 14:26 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: CS configuration helper Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:26   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 21:43   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-11 21:43     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12  8:40     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12  8:40       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12 12:58       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12 12:58         ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12 18:09         ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 18:09           ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13  5:50           ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13  5:50             ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 15:39             ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13 15:39               ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-14  8:45               ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  8:45                 ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12 18:06       ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 18:06         ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13  5:35         ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13  5:35           ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-11 14:27 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: time setting (register#) helper Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:27   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-12 18:55   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 18:55     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13  6:15     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13  6:15       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-11 14:27 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: bool type timing helper Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:27   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 22:27   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-11 22:27     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12  8:41     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12  8:41       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-11 14:27 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: holler if no configuration Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:27   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 22:30   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-11 22:30     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12  8:44     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12  8:44       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12 18:11       ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 18:11         ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-11 14:27 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: waitpin helper Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:27   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 22:59   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-11 22:59     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12  9:00     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12  9:00       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12 18:15       ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 18:15         ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13  7:37         ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13  7:37           ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 15:44           ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13 15:44             ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-14  8:48             ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  8:48               ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14 21:06               ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-14 21:06                 ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-15 10:50                 ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-15 10:50                   ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12 18:37   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 18:37     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13  7:47     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13  7:47       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-11 14:27 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: handle connected peripherals Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:27   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-13 15:31   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13 15:31     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-14  8:40     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  8:40       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-11 14:27 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: cs reconfigure helper Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:27   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 23:04   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-11 23:04     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12  9:01     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12  9:01       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-11 14:27 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: update nand register info Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:27   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:27 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc: writeprotect helper Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-11 14:27   ` Afzal Mohammed
2012-06-12 18:42   ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-12 18:42     ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13  6:10     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13  6:10       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 16:28       ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-13 16:28         ` Jon Hunter
2012-06-14  8:54         ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  8:54           ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14  9:36           ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-14  9:36             ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-14 10:21             ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-14 10:21               ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12 10:39 ` [PATCH v5 00/14] GPMC driver conversion Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-12 10:39   ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-13 12:33   ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-13 12:33     ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-15 10:56     ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-15 10:56       ` Mohammed, Afzal
2012-06-15 12:51       ` Tony Lindgren
2012-06-15 12:51         ` Tony Lindgren

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