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From: Shmulik Ladkani <shmulik.ladkani@gmail.com>
To: Richard Genoud <richard.genoud@gmail.com>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] UBI: replace MTD_UBI_BEB_LIMIT with user-space parameter
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:42:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120816134234.32b468f6@pixies.home.jungo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACQ1gAhFJ6AKYJpc1ZiHm+3Y=APnwUmVL3f0KW=OFMDMWzCVJg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Richard, Artem,

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 12:07:01 +0200 Richard Genoud <richard.genoud@gmail.com> wrote:
> > With you approach, these system MUST pass the limit parameter via the
> > ioctl / module-parameter.
> That's right.
> We can add a kernel config option to change the max_beb_per1024
> default value (actually, this is almost the patch I send first).
> But I see something disturbing with that:
> It means that an ubi_attach call from userspace, without specifying
> max_beb_per1024, won't have the same result, depending of the default
> config value the kernel has been compiled with.
> (Or maybe this behavior is acceptable).

Well, that was the previous behavior of MTD_UBI_BEB_RESERVE, long before
our patchsets.
I think it is acceptable, given the fact it simplifies the configuration
for most simple systems.

Anyway I'm just pointing out the consequences of your change and try to
suggest other alternatives.
Artem should decide as he's the maintainer.

> > Also, since max_beb_per1024 is always set, how one may specify a zero
> > limit?
> You can't.
> Do you think we need that ?

Well again, originally, prior our patchsets, one *could* set a zero
MTD_UBI_BEB_RESERVE for his system. So we're introducing a change that
affects the possible ways an ubi system can be configured, banning
a configuration that was valid in the past.

Does it make sense to set a zero limit? dunno.
For testing purposes, maybe.

Artem, what do you think? prohibit a zero beb limit?

Regards,
Shmulik

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Shmulik Ladkani <shmulik.ladkani@gmail.com>
To: Richard Genoud <richard.genoud@gmail.com>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] UBI: replace MTD_UBI_BEB_LIMIT with user-space parameter
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:42:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120816134234.32b468f6@pixies.home.jungo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACQ1gAhFJ6AKYJpc1ZiHm+3Y=APnwUmVL3f0KW=OFMDMWzCVJg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Richard, Artem,

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 12:07:01 +0200 Richard Genoud <richard.genoud@gmail.com> wrote:
> > With you approach, these system MUST pass the limit parameter via the
> > ioctl / module-parameter.
> That's right.
> We can add a kernel config option to change the max_beb_per1024
> default value (actually, this is almost the patch I send first).
> But I see something disturbing with that:
> It means that an ubi_attach call from userspace, without specifying
> max_beb_per1024, won't have the same result, depending of the default
> config value the kernel has been compiled with.
> (Or maybe this behavior is acceptable).

Well, that was the previous behavior of MTD_UBI_BEB_RESERVE, long before
our patchsets.
I think it is acceptable, given the fact it simplifies the configuration
for most simple systems.

Anyway I'm just pointing out the consequences of your change and try to
suggest other alternatives.
Artem should decide as he's the maintainer.

> > Also, since max_beb_per1024 is always set, how one may specify a zero
> > limit?
> You can't.
> Do you think we need that ?

Well again, originally, prior our patchsets, one *could* set a zero
MTD_UBI_BEB_RESERVE for his system. So we're introducing a change that
affects the possible ways an ubi system can be configured, banning
a configuration that was valid in the past.

Does it make sense to set a zero limit? dunno.
For testing purposes, maybe.

Artem, what do you think? prohibit a zero beb limit?

Regards,
Shmulik

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-16 10:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-10 16:23 [PATCH 0/4] UBI: Use the whole NAND device to calculate max bad block number Richard Genoud
2012-07-10 16:23 ` Richard Genoud
2012-07-10 16:23 ` [PATCH 1/4] mtd_is_partition: struct mtd_info should be const Richard Genoud
2012-07-10 16:23   ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-15 14:02   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-15 14:02     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-10 16:23 ` [PATCH 2/4] MTD parts: introduce mtd_get_device_size() Richard Genoud
2012-07-10 16:23   ` Richard Genoud
2012-07-10 16:23 ` [PATCH 3/4] UBI: use the whole MTD device size to get bad_peb_limit Richard Genoud
2012-07-10 16:23   ` Richard Genoud
2012-07-18  6:50   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-18  6:50     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-18  8:30     ` Richard Genoud
2012-07-18  8:30       ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-15 12:53       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-15 12:53         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-15 15:08   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-15 15:08     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16  8:13     ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-16  8:13       ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 12:00       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16 12:00         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16  8:25     ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-08-16  8:25       ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-08-16 10:35       ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 10:35         ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 11:58         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16 11:58           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16 11:56       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16 11:56         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16  8:32     ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-08-16  8:32       ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-08-16 11:58       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16 11:58         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16 11:58       ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 11:58         ` Richard Genoud
2012-07-10 16:23 ` [PATCH 4/4] UBI: replace MTD_UBI_BEB_LIMIT with user-space parameter Richard Genoud
2012-07-10 16:23   ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-15 14:57   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-15 14:57     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16 14:52     ` [PATCH 0/2] splitting "UBI: replace MTD_UBI_BEB_LIMIT with user-space parameter" Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 14:52       ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 14:52     ` [PATCH 1/2] UBI: replace MTD_UBI_BEB_LIMIT with module parameter Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 14:52       ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-17  8:22       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-17  8:22         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-17 10:27         ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-17 10:27           ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 14:52     ` [PATCH 2/2] UBI: add ioctl for max_beb_per1024 Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 14:52       ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-17  8:28       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-17  8:28         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16  8:57   ` [PATCH 4/4] UBI: replace MTD_UBI_BEB_LIMIT with user-space parameter Shmulik Ladkani
2012-08-16  8:57     ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-08-16 10:07     ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 10:07       ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 10:42       ` Shmulik Ladkani [this message]
2012-08-16 10:42         ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-08-16 13:33         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16 13:33           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-19  7:09           ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-08-19  7:09             ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-08-19 19:04             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-19 19:04               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-20  6:55               ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-20  6:55                 ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-20  8:17                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-20  8:17                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-20  8:27                   ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-20  8:27                     ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 13:28     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16 13:28       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16 13:50       ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-08-16 13:50         ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-08-16 14:30         ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 14:30           ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 14:54           ` [PATCH] UBI: use a config value for default BEB limit Richard Genoud
2012-08-16 14:54             ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-17  7:34           ` [PATCH 4/4] UBI: replace MTD_UBI_BEB_LIMIT with user-space parameter Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-17  7:34             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-17  7:06         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-17  7:06           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-07-10 16:23 ` [PATCH] ubiattach: introduce max_beb_per1024 in UBI_IOCATT Richard Genoud
2012-07-10 16:23   ` Richard Genoud
2012-08-17  9:37   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-17  9:37     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16 13:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] UBI: use the whole MTD device size to get bad_peb_limit Artem Bityutskiy
2012-08-16 13:10   ` [PATCH 2/2] arm: sam9_l9260_defconfig: adjust UBI bad eraseblocks limit Artem Bityutskiy

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